Is this worth it?

this guy is selling a whole bunch of BPs and he has a beautiful "spider"<<<i dont know if it is?? and he is selling it for 150 is this a good deal??
im really interested because i have been looking around for a morph!

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...2/spidey_2.jpg

If the pic you posted the the one your talking about i would say yes, but before you buy i would check out the snake see if it does lets say some weird stuff, weird neck bends ext. Im pretty sure its called the spins but some spiders have it worse then others might be why he is selling it so cheap. hope this helps

AHHH!! A Spider! if thats the snake he is offering I would take it and go to a vet ASAP just in case... I wonder why he is selling such a pretty snake fore only 150.. it maybe fore quick cash but you dont want to end up with a snake thats not eating.

It sounds too good to be true, and we all know what that usually means. If it is real and he just needs some quick cash, I don't think he should have publically advertised it with that low of a price. That's kind of bogus. If it's really a healthy snake, he would be able to sell it privately in about as much time as it took to make the ad, and it wouldn't effect the real spider market like ads like his do.

he didnt publicly advertise the price i had to email him but in the advertisment its like saying,great prices and stuff here it is>>

http://tampabay.kijiji.com/c-Pets-Ot...QAdIdZ73539842

sorry if im not allowed to do that..^^^^

Buy from a quility breeder with a good reputation and don't worry if you being taken for a ride. 150.00 For a spider is twice as cheap as the cheapest I've seen. I'd say hit up Exotics by Nature, 8Ball Pythons, Bailey and Bailey reptiles. You'll spend a little more but you won't have to rush it to the vet or worry that your getting a crap snake.

When you shop in the allys of the industry you have to sort through a lot of trash.

When a deal is just too good to believe, I tend to be pretty skeptical. It may well be a decent hobbyist that is having to move their collection at reduced rates due to some sort of personal issue but just be very careful, double check everything, ask everybody. I'd hate to see another person scammed over a deal of a centry deal that isn't.

I've been seeing spider males sell for $200 - so for one that looks like it's fresh from the egg and not exactly a great looking example of the morph -- $150 isn't IMO "too good to be true".

With any seller use caution -- but if you want guarantees then go with someone that you know will stand behind their animals.

The only person who can determine whether or not it's a deal is you. Do you like the animal and are you willing to spend the money on it? If you said YES then it's a deal. Looks like a nice average spider to me.

definately a deal you would want to do IN PERSON. No deposits... no pre paying. Meet them in person with snake. If you like it buy it with cash and take delivery of it immediately. Seems pretty suspicious to me. will little effort he can get more then that.

what else are they selling???!!!!

You guys are so spoilt :)
The cheapest i've seen a spider over her in the UK is $600 :O
Average is probably $700

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You guys are so spoilt :)
The cheapest i've seen a spider over her in the UK is $600 :O
Average is probably $700

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I need to move to the UK! jk

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I need to move to the UK! jk

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Maybe not , our Gas is $10 a gallon :O
But we do have great weather -)

Will he be there to answer your questions before and after the sale?

Will the animal be well started or do you have experience with un-started BP? (This has not shed yet, will he wait till he has his first shed and feed him several meals before selling him?)

What are his terms and guarantees?

Etc

Saving money is one thing, peace of mind when you buy from someone reputable and knowledgeable is another and that to me is priceless!

i dont know too much about it just let.i think im ganna let this one slide.i know a breeder that i was looking to get a boa form and ill probably just do that.
makes me feel alot better!!
thanks for everyones advice!

Hey $150 is great if you ask me! Especially considering most are between $200-$250 on Kingsnake already as it is. That whole get what you pay for crap is a crock.
My guess is the guy just wants to get rid of it and doesn't want to bother haggling prices back and forth so he just priced it $50 below what most are selling to avoid the hassle and get the quick buck! He's a local guy so you can definitely inspect it and maybe his facility if you asked and were seriouse... Worth a shot!

If you don't buy it I will! LOL... I need a male spider and he looks awesome... Let me know!

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You guys are so spoilt :)
The cheapest i've seen a spider over her in the UK is $600 :O
Average is probably $700

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Was it from here?

And I can recommend the shop as that is where I bought my little lesser male. :gj:


dr del

CPR is a great shop, darrens always has some great animals in stock, probably the best UK reptileshop imo :)

OK, FIRST off I am the seller of this spider. it is lighter then most spiders out there. it is a great example of the morph. second off it has shed once but has not eaten. it is for that price because, if any of you are hatching out snakes right now, you would know that nothing is selling. i have 5 more clutches of eggs hatching and need to move some stuff. so yes my stuff is cheap, but that does not mean there is something wrong with it. i will put my spider up against the best spider out there, and i am sure it will eat within the next week.but like most people in this economy you propably don't have the money. so when money is scarce what do they do. they slash prices. so thats why the snake is selling for what it is. and i have not seen this baby with the head woble and niether does the father

by the way i just sold 2 baby male mojaves, i guess they were sick also, whatever!

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by the way i just sold 2 baby male mojaves, i guess they were sick also, whatever!

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I thought it wasn't possible to move babies in this economy. :confused: If no one can afford to buy any of your snakes in this economy and you need to move them fast, I'll take as many co-dom clutches as you can ship for $50 a snake wholesale.

edc3076,

donate money to this site to advertise

show up and post threads when your product is ready

everyone will love you then

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edc3076,

donate money to this site to advertise

show up and post threads when your product is ready

everyone will love you then

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Lance is a troll

I can speak my mind----


you dont have to show your true character by name calling


are you 11 years old????

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I can speak my mind----


you dont have to show your true character by name calling


are you 11 years old????

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Sorry, from your screen name, I thought your name was Lance.

whose Lance?

Hi,

Lets try and keep the thread kind of on topic please guys. :)


dr del

I personally wouldn't sell a snake that has not had at least 4 meals on its own. You get what you pay for, you may spend $150 and it will eat fine or it may never eat and die.

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OK, FIRST off I am the seller of this spider. it is lighter then most spiders out there. it is a great example of the morph. second off it has shed once but has not eaten. it is for that price because, if any of you are hatching out snakes right now, you would know that nothing is selling. i have 5 more clutches of eggs hatching and need to move some stuff. so yes my stuff is cheap, but that does not mean there is something wrong with it. i will put my spider up against the best spider out there, and i am sure it will eat within the next week.but like most people in this economy you propably don't have the money. so when money is scarce what do they do. they slash prices. so thats why the snake is selling for what it is. and i have not seen this baby with the head woble and niether does the father

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OK.. No offense to the OP....

So let me get this straight EDC.... You are trying to sell a NEWBEE, who isn't even sure what a spider is, a hatchling that YOU can't even get to eat???

If that is the case, You are a perfect example of the bad side of this hobby. Why are you really selling so cheap? Is it because you have already made a name for yourself in the industry?

NO WAY would I buy the snake from him. OP, it will cost a little more, but if you are interested we will be happy to point you towards some REPUTABLE breeders.

By the way, the reputable breeders are having no trouble moving snakes... even with the crappy economy. You, are "different" then them.

mcavana,

Is there a law against selling a 1000cc sportbike to a teenager?

maybe poor consumers give this hobby a bad name

Last week at The White Plains Expo there was a guy there selling Spiders for $150 and Mojos real cheap too. I think they were about $200. I didn't get his name and he was still setting up so i didn't find out who he was. The snakes looked good to me, just young. I would have bought the Spider but my wife told me before the show that she would kill me if i got another snake.

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OK.. No offense to the OP....

So let me get this straight EDC.... You are trying to sell a NEWBEE, who isn't even sure what a spider is, a hatchling that YOU can't even get to eat???

If that is the case, You are a perfect example of the bad side of this hobby. Why are you really selling so cheap? Is it because you have already made a name for yourself in the industry?

NO WAY would I buy the snake from him. OP, it will cost a little more, but if you are interested we will be happy to point you towards some REPUTABLE breeders.

By the way, the reputable breeders are having no trouble moving snakes... even with the crappy economy. You, are "different" then them.

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first off i don't even remember talking to this person about a snake. and 2nd if a person had no experience with balls and the baby had not eaten yet i would not sell it to them, plenty of babies take a few weeks to start eating. and its not that i cannot get it to eat, i have only tried once, so i will try again over the weekend, and when it does. the price will not change.I have made no name for myself good or bad, i have about 45 adult ball pythons, various types and i breed for a hobby the xtra money is a plus.i am selling so cheap because i need some cash.if the guy does not want to buy the snake he does not have to. and i am far from the bad side of this hobby. the bad side would tell someone the snake was eating, i said it had its first shed and had not eaten yet.GO TRY AND BEAT ON SOMEONE THAT IS A SCAMMER, BUT GET OFF MY BACK BECAUSE ONE THING I AM NOT, IS A SCAMMER OR A PERSON WHO GIVES THIS BUSINESS A BAD NAME!!!

OH and by the way if you look around you will see bumblebee's and all kinds of morphs going for next to nothing compared to what they were even a few months ago. but i guess they are selling sick snakes also.

IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BUY A BABY FROM ME AND THE BABY HAS NOT EATEN YET, AND THEY HAVE NEVER ASSIST FED A SNAKE, THAT PERSON CANNOT BUY THE SNAKE.that is not something i will put in the add because who knows when i will get a call and if the snake has eaten by that time!

I think you should go check your racks, i think your garter snake just escaped. lololol

I really like you guys, i had no idea what i was going to do tonight, now i have a purpose, other than selling innocent people sick snakes.oh lets not forget giving this business a bad name thats me. go yell at the guy who took your lunch money in school, cause you are barking up the wrong tree here, jaguar fan!!! lololol

Not to mention he is obviously emotionaly unstable.... Or is it mentally challenged????


Nope, Just a Troll.... This will be my last reply :8:

for the unstable part i take medication, and for the challenged side, i just keep practicing with my flash cards!!!!!!!! mr. rogers has helped alot and reading rainbow also, you should try it out.

IF you don't buy it forward it my way, I'll take a spider for $150.

How much does the little guy weigh... I'm interested.

Anything else you have for sale PM me... :)

yall go for it....

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OK.. No offense to the OP....

So let me get this straight EDC.... You are trying to sell a NEWBEE, who isn't even sure what a spider is, a hatchling that YOU can't even get to eat???

If that is the case, You are a perfect example of the bad side of this hobby. Why are you really selling so cheap? Is it because you have already made a name for yourself in the industry?

NO WAY would I buy the snake from him. OP, it will cost a little more, but if you are interested we will be happy to point you towards some REPUTABLE breeders.

By the way, the reputable breeders are having no trouble moving snakes... even with the crappy economy. You, are "different" then them.

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You know all of this just because the guy is selling his snake for cheaper than the average price? Maybe he doesn't have a good reputation yet or a lot of positive feedback, but everyone has to start somewhere. Until he gets feedback saying he is reputable or not it isn't fair to jump to conclusions and condemn him. Why aren't you tearing into the OP for trying to buy a snake that is young and hasn't eaten? Consumers have a responsibility to educate themselves about the item they are buying just as much as the seller has to be honest and open with the buyer about the item.

To me, YOU are the perfect example of the bad side of this hobby. Making snap judgments with little to no real information about the situation at hand. Did he ever sell you a sick snake? Do you know anyone he ripped off? Didn't think so. It's horrible to try to ruin someones reputation without any real evidence.

I wouldnt buy or sell a hatchling that hasnt had 3-4 consecutive meals. It doesnt matter who they come from. That is just the standard procedure. Price is irrelevant.

Until an animal is an established feeder the chance of survival drops significantly. Any one who knows anything about breeding BP's sticks to these simple guidelines.

Thks, Alot. One Thing I Will Not Do Is Misrepresent Anything I Have Or Am Selling. I Welcome Anyone Interested In Anything I Have, To Come Look At How My Snakes Are Taken Care And All My Adults And Babies.

Heres The Deal, I Have A Shrimp Boat That I Have Been Trying To Get Finished So I Can Support Myself And My Family. If I Need To Price A Snake Cheap To Move It, Maybe It Means I Need Some Cash Like Alot Of Other People In This Economy.

Thanks For Your Positive Remarks Its Refreshing!

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I wouldnt buy or sell a hatchling that hasnt had 3-4 consecutive meals. It doesnt matter who they come from. That is just the standard procedure. Price is irrelevant.

Until an animal is an established feeder the chance of survival drops significantly. Any one who knows anything about breeding BP's sticks to these simple guidelines.

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Exactly.

I Am Going To Nip This In The Bud Right Now. This Is My First Yr Selling Babies. But I Do Think That Alot Of The People Have A Valid Point About Not Selling A Baby Until It Has Had Its First Few Meals. So From Now On I Am Not Going To Attempt To Sell A Baby Without Having It Eat A Few Times. Even Though I Would Have Not Sold A Baby To An Inexperienced Person If Had Not Eaten And Been Totally Honest About It! So There We Are Done With This! When I List My Babies From Here On Out They Will Be Eating, And I Think That Is A Very Valid Point! Gosh I Feel Alot Of Love In This Room!!!!!!!!!

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I THOUGHT WERE NOT SAYING ANYTHING ANYMORE, TROLL BOY

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I Do Think That Alot Of The People Have A Valid Point About Not Selling A Baby Until It Has Had Its First Few Meals. So From Now On I Am Not Going To Attempt To Sell A Baby Without Having It Eat A Few Times.

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Congradulations, you have begun to cross over from the dark side.

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Congradulations, you have begun to cross over from the dark side.

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I AM JUST USING THE FORCE NOW

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I Have A Shrimp Boat That I Have Been Trying To Get Finished So I Can Support Myself And My Family.

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Where are you located??? ALL the shrimpers here are going out of business. Gas prices are just too high...

Hey guys....I think it would be a very good idea for everyone to simply take a step back away from the keyboard and take a slow, deep breath.

I see an awful lot of jumping-to-conclusions about a potential sale that folks have virtually no information on...and an awful lot of defensiveness that came earlier than was warranted by the original questions raised. If you're going to challenge someone on how they do business, at least have some real facts lined up, rather than suppositions on what you THINK their motivations might be...and if you're going to defend yourself, try to do so with a little more maturity and less playground taunting to help maintain the credibility you are trying so hard to defend.

I really don't see the reason for all the drama on this thread. The guy came asking for opinions on if something was a good deal....folks offered valid opinions based on the facts presented. Whether or not someone chooses to then follow through with such a deal is entirely an independent decision and should not cause so much drama.

well im sorry i was interested all i asked is what he has and how much he didnt say anything about newborns or anything if you dont believe here is all that we said!what i first emailed is at the bottom,then what they said,then what i said back.he never replied after that....
what he said is in red and what i said is in blue...









i might be interested in the spider!ill get back to you!what else do you have hatching?


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Cullom <-----@---->
To: chiffkerbob@aol.com
Sent: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 8:03 am
Subject: Re: Snakes

normal balls 20$ spider is 150$ adult albino male is 700$ and i have more hatching 813 xxx-xxxx----- Original Message -----
From: chiffkerbob@aol.com
To: sale-835670042@craigslist.org
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:28 PM
Subject: Snakes

What do you have and what are the prices?Also if you have any pics to go along!

I will try to take the high road here and say I may have overreacted a bit at mcavanas comment. You are not an example of the bad side of this hobby, I just disagree with your opinions on this one issue. Also, I think edc3076 has been very clear that he will try to get a few more feedings in before selling his hatchlings. He deserves our trust and respect untill he proves otherwise. We have no reason to believe his snakes are any less healthy or high quality than the big, wellknown breeders.

You never know. Someday he may be the biggest name in BPs and/or shrimp and everyone will be buying from him!

edit: To the OP, make sure in your future emails to ask questions such as when was it hatched? weight? has it eaten? etc. It is your responsibility to educate yourself on what you are buying, as much as it is the sellers responsibility to be honest when you ask these questions. You will make much better BP buying decisions by asking a few questions.

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edc3076--
if you get any boas let me know.if you forgot my email just check what i just posted a min ago!

i was never saying anything mean or rude i was just asking around.sorry this got a little out of hand!!