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  • 09-07-2008, 05:21 PM
    Patrick Long
    Poisons
  • 09-07-2008, 06:41 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Poisons
    Heres the group shot in the back of tank. I JUST found my fake plants n such, so now they have tons of climbin junk

    http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...onDartTrio.jpg
  • 09-07-2008, 06:44 PM
    Evans
    Re: Poisons
    Very nice frogs. What type are they? And may I ask for a photo of the tanks they're kept in?
  • 09-07-2008, 06:54 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Poisons
    The orange and black is leucomelas, the one with the yellow spot is a yellow back, and the other blue one is a tinctorius I believe (also called "patricia")
  • 09-08-2008, 12:03 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Poisons
  • 09-08-2008, 12:06 AM
    STORMS
    Re: Poisons
    That enclosure is SICK!!! :gj::gj::gj::gj:

    Great frogs :D

    I think you need to post 1 single thread with all your critters! Seriously how many do you have????
  • 09-08-2008, 12:06 AM
    JLC
    Re: Poisons
    Why people build these elaborate enclosures just to put in toy plastic frogs is beyond me. :P




    (Amazing little froggies, Pat!!!)
  • 09-08-2008, 12:07 AM
    nd179906
    Re: Poisons
    Those are awesome man I really like that set up.:sweeet:
  • 09-08-2008, 12:09 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lenastorms View Post
    That enclosure is SICK!!! :gj::gj::gj::gj:

    Great frogs :D

    I think you need to post 1 single thread with all your critters! Seriously how many do you have????

    LOL my gf did that all on her own, I was aw-struck when I saw it.



    as far as all my critters go....pffff I dont know....40?....50????

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JLC View Post
    Why people build these elaborate enclosures just to put in toy plastic frogs is beyond me. :P




    (Amazing little froggies, Pat!!!)

    Hahahahaha Thats funny!!!!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nd179906 View Post
    Those are awesome man I really like that set up.:sweeet:

    Thanx a ton, my girl is Ear to Ear right now just staring at the enclosure :P
  • 09-08-2008, 04:23 PM
    qiksilver
    Re: Poisons
    if that painters tape is there for fruit fly reasons, just pop off that front plastic piece and install hardware cloth on the inside. if not, nevermind.
  • 09-08-2008, 05:09 PM
    Holbeird
    Re: Poisons
    Great looking set up and awesome frogs Pat. What kind of camera are you using?
  • 09-08-2008, 05:13 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Poisons
    Nice frogs man. I'd get rid of those B.S. plants and get some sweet jewel orchids for those guys. :D The live plants are almost as enjoyable as watching the frogs.
  • 09-08-2008, 05:16 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Patrick Long View Post
    The orange and black is leucomelas, the one with the yellow spot is a yellow back, and the other blue one is a tinctorius I believe (also called "patricia")

    Yep, it looks like a D. Tinct Patricia or D. Tinct Powder blue. Sometimes they look a lot different, but my poder blues looked just like Patricias. The Leucs loose some of the black and get spots when they are older. The three you got are some of my favorite non thumbnail species.
  • 09-08-2008, 05:20 PM
    marmie
    Re: Poisons
    Very nice Pat! Is there any type of animal you don't like?

    Did you get them from the guy on the last row, I think the name was Infrogneato? That's who I got mine from but he only had a pair of the orange ones to I got the black back, powder and citronella.
  • 09-08-2008, 05:23 PM
    Royal Morphz
    Re: Poisons
    man Pat have you licked that orange and black one yet he looks yummy lol tell Lydia she hooked that tank up when Pomona pops off ill bring down the exoterra tank i have and she can hook up mine and ill get me some dart frogs
  • 09-08-2008, 05:56 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by qiksilver View Post
    if that painters tape is there for fruit fly reasons, just pop off that front plastic piece and install hardware cloth on the inside. if not, nevermind.

    Its only gonna be there for a little while, till they get a wee bit bigger for pinheads. Good suggestion though, I may do that for my other tank.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Holbeird View Post
    Great looking set up and awesome frogs Pat. What kind of camera are you using?

    I use a Kodak V550, nothin fancy, just a two year old digital camera.....:P

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    Nice frogs man. I'd get rid of those B.S. plants and get some sweet jewel orchids for those guys. :D The live plants are almost as enjoyable as watching the frogs.

    Yep, it looks like a D. Tinct Patricia or D. Tinct Powder blue. Sometimes they look a lot different, but my poder blues looked just like Patricias. The Leucs loose some of the black and get spots when they are older. The three you got are some of my favorite non thumbnail species.

    Yeah man Im diggin em so far. I got your PM, and talkin to my girl right now, I think that would be bad arse!!!!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by marmie View Post
    Very nice Pat! Is there any type of animal you don't like?

    Did you get them from the guy on the last row, I think the name was Infrogneato? That's who I got mine from but he only had a pair of the orange ones to I got the black back, powder and citronella.

    Yup got it from the same people!!!! I love em!

    As far as types of critters I dont like.....cant think of a single one! :D

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by royal morphz View Post
    man Pat have you licked that orange and black one yet he looks yummy lol tell Lydia she hooked that tank up when Pomona pops off ill bring down the exoterra tank i have and she can hook up mine and ill get me some dart frogs

    hahahaha, hes a bit salty actually :P:P:P:O:O
  • 09-08-2008, 07:20 PM
    qiksilver
    Re: Poisons
    I was gonna leave you be since you seemed psyched with the new digs, but I agree with Jake, real plants are the way to go.

    Also again not looking to start anything, but are you gonna keep all 3 together for good?
  • 09-08-2008, 07:30 PM
    dsirkle
    Re: Poisons
    What great colors! They don't even look real. At the rate that you are acquiring animals you better hope that Ventura doesn't burn down too.
  • 09-08-2008, 07:31 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Patrick Long View Post
    Its only gonna be there for a little while, till they get a wee bit bigger for pinheads. Good suggestion though, I may do that for my other tank.


    Forget pinheads, unless you want to breed enough for them. These guys have bigger appetites than anything I've seen. You'll be on the streets if you have to buy enough crix to keep them full. Breed your own flies. No smell, no noise, very little space, great nutrition and practically free. Get a good fly cycle going, and these guys will be easier and cheaper than goldfish. :gj:
  • 09-08-2008, 08:19 PM
    marmie
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    Forget pinheads, unless you want to breed enough for them. These guys have bigger appetites than anything I've seen. You'll be on the streets if you have to buy enough crix to keep them full. Breed your own flies. No smell, no noise, very little space, great nutrition and practically free. Get a good fly cycle going, and these guys will be easier and cheaper than goldfish. :gj:

    Jake are you talking house flies? Maggots eewwwww! You don't think even a box (1,000+) of pinheads would be enough?

    I'm a little worried that I'm not feeding mine enough. I got the wingless fruit flies from the vendor and a starter kit to make my own. He told me to feed them twice a day while they are babies and then once a day when they are adults. The vendor said to dump some in a go back in 20 min to see if they were still running around and if not give them a little more.

    Oh no, what have I gotten myself (Raul) into????
  • 09-08-2008, 08:20 PM
    marmie
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by qiksilver View Post
    I was gonna leave you be since you seemed psyched with the new digs, but I agree with Jake, real plants are the way to go.

    Also again not looking to start anything, but are you gonna keep all 3 together for good?

    I got 3 of them too and was going to keep them together. Is that a bad thing?:confused:
  • 09-08-2008, 09:06 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Poisons
    Laurie, I meant the flightless fruit flies. My darts would eat about 50 per day each. With 3 frogs you'd be going through 1,000 pinheads a week. For my 5 frogs I had 3 containers with a cycle of flightless flies, and they produced enough food for me. It's very cheap and easy. I was also told that the exoskeletins on crickets are a lot harder for frogs to digest. I would give mine occasional pinheads and phoenix worms, but raising the fruit flies was really the only way I would ever keep darts.
  • 09-08-2008, 09:15 PM
    casperca
    Re: Poisons
    :P that fat little leuc is awesome!
  • 09-08-2008, 10:00 PM
    marmie
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    Laurie, I meant the flightless fruit flies. My darts would eat about 50 per day each. With 3 frogs you'd be going through 1,000 pinheads a week. For my 5 frogs I had 3 containers with a cycle of flightless flies, and they produced enough food for me. It's very cheap and easy. I was also told that the exoskeletins on crickets are a lot harder for frogs to digest. I would give mine occasional pinheads and phoenix worms, but raising the fruit flies was really the only way I would ever keep darts.

    :weirdface Thanks Jake. You scared me there for a second! I was thinking where in the heck would you keep house flies. Now I feel stupid!!!!! :rolleyes:

    I got the fly kit too but I've not started another culture yet. Where do you keep the flies? Not sure if they need special attention or not. Now that I know you have them either Raul or I will most likely be picking your brain.
  • 09-08-2008, 10:54 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    Forget pinheads, unless you want to breed enough for them. These guys have bigger appetites than anything I've seen. You'll be on the streets if you have to buy enough crix to keep them full. Breed your own flies. No smell, no noise, very little space, great nutrition and practically free. Get a good fly cycle going, and these guys will be easier and cheaper than goldfish. :gj:

    Well we got fruit fly cultures goin, got them for the baby mantids!!! :D:D So im not too worried!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by marmie View Post
    :weirdface Thanks Jake. You scared me there for a second! I was thinking where in the heck would you keep house flies. Now I feel stupid!!!!! :rolleyes:

    I got the fly kit too but I've not started another culture yet. Where do you keep the flies? Not sure if they need special attention or not. Now that I know you have them either Raul or I will most likely be picking your brain.

    I never did anything with my fruit flies, and they reproduced two or three generations before I just fed them all off!
  • 09-08-2008, 11:18 PM
    marmie
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Patrick Long View Post
    I never did anything with my fruit flies, and they reproduced two or three generations before I just fed them all off!

    Thanks Pat! I still feel completely ignorant about the frogs and the fly cycle. One container should last me how long? When should I start another culture of flies?

    I just looked at the frogs and I think I might have over fed them. Should I be worried? Seems like there are an awful lot of flies in there still and it's been a couple hours. I suppose I won't feed them in the morning.
  • 09-09-2008, 11:31 AM
    dsirkle
    Re: Poisons
    Now today I picked up a National Geographic for kids and they have poison frogs in featured in there. I hope I can ignore them. They are really beautiful but I'm pretty sure that they would require an experts care.
  • 09-09-2008, 11:52 AM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by marmie View Post
    Thanks Pat! I still feel completely ignorant about the frogs and the fly cycle. One container should last me how long? When should I start another culture of flies?

    I just looked at the frogs and I think I might have over fed them. Should I be worried? Seems like there are an awful lot of flies in there still and it's been a couple hours. I suppose I won't feed them in the morning.

    They won't eat a ton as babies, but their appetites grow with them. For my 5 frogs I always had 3-4 plastic jars going, and I would start a new batch every 2 weeks. Mine would be cashed after about 5 weeks, but it depends on how much of the mix you use and how fast your cultures are reproducing and eating. If you start a culture with 100 flies it will fill up with flies and the food will be gone a couple of weeks faster than if you start a culture with a dozen flies. Also, the quicker you feed new flies off, the less you have in there to reproduce, so if you are constantly feeding from the same jar it will last longer. It's all stuff you will figure out as you get into it. It's just important to get a good cycle going so you don't run out, because buying food for these beasts can get expensive. :)
  • 09-10-2008, 05:18 PM
    nootcakes
    Re: Poisons
    What kind of plant is that along the floor almost like a substrate?
    very nice frogs BTW.
  • 09-10-2008, 05:21 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nootcakes View Post
    What kind of plant is that along the floor almost like a substrate?
    very nice frogs BTW.

    I dont know.....some sort of moss they were sellin with the froggies
  • 09-10-2008, 05:23 PM
    nootcakes
    Re: Poisons
    it adds that nice little touch
  • 09-10-2008, 05:47 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: Poisons
    Hot froggies Bro!
    I am really enjoying ours.

    Lets see who get's babies first, that is always a thrill.

    Froggies Rock:banana:
  • 09-10-2008, 05:54 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nootcakes View Post
    it adds that nice little touch

    Yeah I agree, it just adds the little extra pop to the enclosure.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle View Post
    Hot froggies Bro!
    I am really enjoying ours.

    Lets see who get's babies first, that is always a thrill.

    Froggies Rock:banana:

    hahahah YOUR ON!!!!
  • 09-10-2008, 06:02 PM
    jknudson
    Re: Poisons
    I love darts, makes me want to set up a terrarium finally!
  • 09-10-2008, 06:10 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jknudson View Post
    I love darts, makes me want to set up a terrarium finally!

    Yeah man they are super cool.....I can sit and watch them for hours, and they dont really even do that much stuff! LOL
  • 09-10-2008, 06:12 PM
    jknudson
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Patrick Long View Post
    Yeah man they are super cool.....I can sit and watch them for hours, and they dont really even do that much stuff! LOL

    For a display its been between these and GTPs for a while. With the darts I'd definitely go all out on customizing the enclosure, that's half the fun.

    But, then I have to select a species!! :O:P
  • 09-10-2008, 06:20 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Poisons
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jknudson View Post
    For a display its been between these and GTPs for a while. With the darts I'd definitely go all out on customizing the enclosure, that's half the fun.

    But, then I have to select a species!! :O:P

    Yeah, and you only got like 50 to choose from!!! :D
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