Please help me sex / figure out this snake

PLEASE READ THIS FIRST.

This snake has been sexed as a female 3 times (the guy I got her from, the local pet shop, and a reptile vet.) After popping her, I am totally confused. Please understand that the pictures do what I am talking about NO justice. I know what a scent gland is supposed to look like. I know what a hemephene looks like. Problem is that there are either 2 sets of scent glands on each side or something else funky going on. In all pictures the tale is to the left, the head is to the right.

Please help me guys... Am just missing somthing obvious here? what the hell is number 1, and what is number 2?

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...a/DSC00601.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...a/DSC00602.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...a/DSC00603.jpg

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3.../DSC006000.jpg

thanks for your help everyone.

It almost looks like a male with missing hemipenes.

looks like a girl to me

how hard are you pressing? you could be over-popping her

I would say female, from my moderate popping experience seeing it done. Usually, two flaming red rockets pop out for a male.. weird.

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Originally Posted by qiksilver

how hard are you pressing? you could be over-popping her

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Didnt even think of that.

Wow Mike i am totally confused:confused:. Not sure what i am seeing. I would like to see what the more experienced say about this one. I sure hope its a female;)

well, at least there is some question here as to what is going on and I am not a complete idiot...

As far has how hard? No idea. Doing it as hard as I normally would. I now have 15 balls here, and all of the others when popped do NOT look like this. the females when popped have a scent gland on each side. the males have obvious big blood red hemephenes that pop out.

Now Im not an expert, but it looks almost scar tissue like material where the base of the hemipene would be.

Looks female to me, that animal definitely looks fully everted, and if it were a male you'd know. You can see the anus and scent glands I'd also say she's "over popped".

That is a female from what I can see...

If you are pressing hard enough to make the scent glads goop out, it is pretty sure that you have a girl on your hands

I would say female if I saw that.

Bruce

but if it is a female, what are the scent glands?? number 1 or number 2???? What is the other one???!!!

it's a girl

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Originally Posted by mcavana

but if it is a female, what are the scent glands?? number 1 or number 2???? What is the other one???!!!

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Number 1 are the scent glands.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Number 1 are the scent glands.

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what are number 2?

I'd say its a female. I have the same issue going on here. I was sent a male snake. Well upon popping when "he" first arrived, it sure looked like a girl to me. Ten a month later I decided to pop "him" again, definitley a girl.

She does have those stubby scent glands that can fool you into thinking its a boy. But when popping a boy I've found that you can change the length at which the penies come out verses a girl you cant.

Hope that helps.

I believe the term for number 2 is Hemipenal anologs.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

I believe the term for number 2 is Hemipenal anologs.

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LOL... boy part or girl part?

Girl part...

Boy part would be dark red and flowery

That's a girl!

Edit: NM I looked closer and I agree it is a girl.