I LOVE this...

This BP looks amazing to me. Maybe it's just me, but this snake is gorgeous... Axanthic Pinstripe

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...es/axanpin.jpg

Picture featuring BHB Axanthic Pinstripe, photography by Celia from EBN

LAWReptiles do you have EBN's permission to post this picture on the forum?

You don't need permission to post on a privately owned forum. Thanks... Just like all the other posts with various pics.. but thanks for the concern ( just like someone posted a a pic of a BP off of my site today )

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Originally Posted by LAWReptiles

You don't need permission to post on a privately owned forum. Thanks... Just like all the other posts with various pics.. but thanks for the concern ( just like someone posted a a pic of a BP off of my site today )

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Actually you do need permission to post copyrighted material on THIS forum

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13. Respect bandwidth, copyrights, and ownership. Do not "hot-link" images from other websites or post copyrighted material without the express, written permission of the owner.

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Oh, ok. Well, I apologize.. Won't happen again

It is pretty nice. I'm not a fan of axanthics but some of the crosses are pretty cool!

Dude, why are you posting photos that are not yours without giving proper credit to the breeders that put in the hard work to create that little miracle? Don't you have some ch bps with their spines protruding to show off. Man, where is Jas when you need him, only he could put this tool in his place for real!:mad:

Well Deb beat me to the punch, but this dude is bad news!

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Originally Posted by karbogast

Dude, why are you posting photos that are not yours without giving proper credit to the breeders that put in the hard work to create that little miracle? Don't you have some ch bps with their spines protruding to show off. Man, where is Jas when you need him, only he could put this tool in his place for real!:mad:

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Why so quick to attack? He acknowledged he made a simple mistake. I don't get some people's needs to attack other on these forums.

Wow, Karbo, way to be a jerk... I said I made a mistake! And how dare you insult me. This is ridiculous. the image came up on a GOOGLE search. And I am friends with Brian from BHB, actually going to visit him when he returns from daytona, and do a snakebytes episode of me giving them tattoos.. ALL of my snakes are healthy. So, take it somewhere else. You're disgusting

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Originally Posted by karbogast

Dude, why are you posting photos that are not yours without giving proper credit to the breeders that put in the hard work to create that little miracle? Don't you have some ch bps with their spines protruding to show off. Man, where is Jas when you need him, only he could put this tool in his place for real!:mad:

Well Deb beat me to the punch, but this dude is bad news!

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...Have a bad day? :confused:

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Originally Posted by karbogast

Dude, why are you posting photos that are not yours without giving proper credit to the breeders that put in the hard work to create that little miracle? Don't you have some ch bps with their spines protruding to show off. Man, where is Jas when you need him, only he could put this tool in his place for real!:mad:

Well Deb beat me to the punch, but this dude is bad news!

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P.S. He may not have gotten permission but he did give credit. "Picture featuring BHB Axanthic Pinstripe, photography by Celia from EBN"

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Originally Posted by envy_ld50

Why so quick to attack? He acknowledged he made a simple mistake. I don't get some people's needs to attack other on these forums.

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I am not attacking, infact I am defending those that do not have the experience to see past people like this. This was no simple mistake but rather an attempt to use someone elses work for his own self promotion. Look at the type of animal he admits to selling and then tell me that compares to the ax pin he is trying to associate with himself.
Here is the thread
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=73336

I am a pretty laid back dude, and several members can attest to that, however I love keeping reptiles and if something smells shady then I will speak up. I am sorry if you feel I am attacking but I feel I am protecting a hobby I love and if that gets me kicked off the board then so be it.

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Originally Posted by karbogast

I am not attacking, infact I am defending those that do not have the experience to see past people like this. This was no simple mistake but rather an attempt to use someone elses work for his own self promotion. Look at the type of animal he admits to selling and then tell me that compares to the ax pin he is trying to associate with himself.
Here is the thread
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=73336

I am a pretty laid back dude, and several members can attest to that, however I love keeping reptiles and if something smells shady then I will speak up. I am sorry if you feel I am attacking but I feel I am protecting a hobby I love and if that gets me kicked off the board then so be it.

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GROW UP... I did not ONCE say anything about being mine, or intend on using it for " self promotion ". You moron, how dare you. GROW UP! I saw a neat BP I though looked amazing in google search, and decided to share it with people. Youre something else...

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Originally Posted by karbogast

Dude, why are you posting photos that are not yours without giving proper credit to the breeders that put in the hard work to create that little miracle? Don't you have some ch bps with their spines protruding to show off. Man, where is Jas when you need him, only he could put this tool in his place for real!:mad:

Well Deb beat me to the punch, but this dude is bad news!

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It would be different if he just posted a picture making it seem that it was his, but I do not think he did any harm because he included who that snake belongs to as well as the photo.

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Originally Posted by karbogast

I am not attacking, infact I am defending those that do not have the experience to see past people like this. This was no simple mistake but rather an attempt to use someone elses work for his own self promotion. Look at the type of animal he admits to selling and then tell me that compares to the ax pin he is trying to associate with himself.
Here is the thread
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=73336

I am a pretty laid back dude, and several members can attest to that, however I love keeping reptiles and if something smells shady then I will speak up. I am sorry if you feel I am attacking but I feel I am protecting a hobby I love and if that gets me kicked off the board then so be it.

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I understand the passion of keeping reptiles, we all should. I have been reading this forum for a long time. I just recently made a profile so I do not feel new in a sense. I can see the concern from the previous thread, however as lovers of reptiles we need to educate not insult. I mean no offense to you and hope to have many more conversations in the future.

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Originally Posted by stormbourne

P.S. He may not have gotten permission but he did give credit. "Picture featuring BHB Axanthic Pinstripe, photography by Celia from EBN"

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Look at the edit info below the photo, Deb had to edit in the photo credit. I find it amazing that I produce beautifully heathy babies and contribute regularly to the board and yet I am getting harped on for pointing out someone who doesn't seem on the up and up! I have been around the block a few times and I am just trying to share my knowledge and help other see through some of the smoke and mirrors. Not everyone in the hobby has aultruistic motives, but if some would like to believe it is all cotton candy clouds and pixie dust sprinkles then more power to ya!

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Originally Posted by stormbourne

P.S. He may not have gotten permission but he did give credit. "Picture featuring BHB Axanthic Pinstripe, photography by Celia from EBN"

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Actually, a staff member gave credit to make his post in compliance with THIS forum's TOS.

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

It would be different if he just posted a picture making it seem that it was his, but I do not think he did any harm because he included who that snake belongs to as well as the photo.

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No he didn't - Deborah edited the post to add it.

NOW - the insults being thrown back and forth will stop NOW!

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Originally Posted by karbogast

Look at the edit info below the photo, Deb had to edit in the photo credit. I find it amazing that I produce beautifully heathy babies and contribute regularly to the board and yet I am getting harped on for pointing out someone who doesn't seem on the up and up! I have been around the block a few times and I am just trying to share my knowledge and help other see through some of the smoke and mirrors. Not everyone in the hobby has aultruistic motives, but if some would like to believe it is all cotton candy clouds and pixie dust sprinkles then more power to ya!

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The original thread was started at 6:29. You have 9 minutes to edit the post. Deb edited at 6:55, 26 minutes after the fact. Only a staff member could have edited it, and we did to give proper credit.

I think you are making some pretty wild accusations about someone you really don't know at all, rather, you just have a bad feeling about. I don't at all get that he was trying to put that snake off as his own in his original text.

It sounds to me now that it's getting personal, and if you have issues with him, then PM him with your thoughts. Perhaps talking to someone before accusing them may clear up some problems.

This is not what I wanted from this thread. I just wanted to share what I though was a very beautiful BP. That's all! Deborah, corrected me, and I acknowledge my mistake and apologized. I was going to try to edit it, but Deb beat me to the punch. :confused:

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Originally Posted by rabernet

No he didn't - Deborah edited the post to add it.

NOW - the insults being thrown back and forth will stop NOW!

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Originally Posted by Nate

The original thread was started at 6:29. You have 9 minutes to edit the post. Deb edited at 6:55, 26 minutes after the fact. Only a staff member could have edited it, and we did to give proper credit.

I think you are making some pretty wild accusations about someone you really don't know at all, rather, you just have a bad feeling about. I don't at all get that he was trying to put that snake off as his own in his original text.

It sounds to me now that it's getting personal, and if you have issues with him, then PM him with your thoughts. Perhaps talking to someone before accusing them may clear up some problems.

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BRAVO :clap::clap::clap::clap: for Nate and Robin! :salute:

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Originally Posted by LAWReptiles

This is not what I wanted from this thread. I just wanted to share what I though was a very beautiful BP. That's all! Deborah, corrected me, and I acknowledge my mistake and apologized. I was going to try to edit it, but Deb beat me to the punch. :confused:

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Sounds to me like he made an honest mistake, and apologized. He also said that it will not happen again. I do not understand he was jumped all over about this. This is not what I like to see when I come to this forum. This is also another reason that many people that come to this, and other forums, feel unwelcomed and do not return.

LAWReptiles, for what it's worth, I'm sorry for the way your were treated.

Thank you Woohoo.. Very admirable. Like I said, I just wanted to share a cool pic of a beautiful BP lol.. But, Im over it. Im not going to dwell on it.. I know MYSELF I made a mistake.. I accept it.. apologize.. now... Isnt that a nice looking snake :D lol :8:

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Originally Posted by rabernet

No he didn't - Deborah edited the post to add it.

NOW - the insults being thrown back and forth will stop NOW!

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Goes twice for me

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Originally Posted by LAWReptiles

Thank you Woohoo.. Very admirable. Like I said, I just wanted to share a cool pic of a beautiful BP lol.. But, Im over it. Im not going to dwell on it.. I know MYSELF I made a mistake.. I accept it.. apologize.. now... Isnt that a nice looking snake :D lol :8:

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Very nice.

That definitely is a sweet looking snake. It would look even cooler with BT's crazy pattern pinstripe...

Peace out!

Same here, I'm not big fan of axanthic it looks black and white to me, but this one is gorgeous.

Now i dont have alot of posts but ive been around on hear and many other forums and i have to say the mods and the op handled themselves so well the mods jumped on the problem and quashed it quickly that is the main reason i love my BP.Net site and people plus that snake is hot

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Originally Posted by rabernet

No he didn't - Deborah edited the post to add it.

NOW - the insults being thrown back and forth will stop NOW!

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Sorry Robin, didnt even think about looking to see if it had been edited:oops:

Hey did yall see that sky today? man it was blue!

Nope, it was gross here in Waco today. Whatchoo talkin' 'bout blue?? I do love this flooding season though :D

And hotlinking a picture from someone else's site steals their bandwidth. Not polite. Save it to your computer, THEN post it with credits.

And Kevin, I like your snakes better. Little more of that "filled out" look to 'em.. :P

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Originally Posted by SatanicIntention

Nope, it was gross here in Waco today. Whatchoo talkin' 'bout blue?? I do love this flooding season though :D

And hotlinking a picture from someone else's site steals their bandwidth. Not polite. Save it to your computer, THEN post it with credits.

And Kevin, I like your snakes better. Little more of that "filled out" look to 'em.. :P

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Gah, same here...but I am not complaining I would rather be in 2-a-days rainy and cold than hot and humid ANY day!:D

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Originally Posted by SatanicIntention

Nope, it was gross here in Waco today. Whatchoo talkin' 'bout blue?? I do love this flooding season though :D

And hotlinking a picture from someone else's site steals their bandwidth. Not polite. Save it to your computer, THEN post it with credits.

And Kevin, I like your snakes better. Little more of that "filled out" look to 'em.. :P

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What can I say Becky I just like'em with a little meat on their bones...LOL. Speaking of gray skies, an unwelcomed guest named Fay hasn't taken the hint yet that it is time to move along now!

I'm gonna go on a limb here and point something out for you folks wondering why in the world Kevin jumped into the thread like he did....

This is NOT the only forum out there, and just about everyone has a history whether that be good or bad.

If anyone decides to point out something they thinks is important, more than likely there is a HISTORY behind it.

Kevin from what I've seen isn't the type of guy to get hot and bothered over just a posting of a pic, but rather the character posting the pic because of something important that has transpired in the past. ;)

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

I'm gonna go on a limb here and point something out for you folks wondering why in the world Kevin jumped into the thread like he did....

This is NOT the only forum out there, and just about everyone has a history whether that be good or bad.

If anyone decides to point out something they thinks is important, more than likely there is a HISTORY behind it.

Kevin from what I've seen isn't the type of guy to get hot and bothered over just a posting of a pic, but rather the character posting the pic because of something important that has transpired in the past. ;)

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So you’re stating that the OP has a history? And that Kevin was correct to jump all over him? It looked to me that someone made an honest mistake, and once realized apologized, and stated that he would not do it again.

For someone new to the site, this whole ordeal would look unwelcoming. I for one do not agree with jumping all over someone for an honest mistake, and name calling. It’s just wrong. IMO.

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

Sounds to me like he made an honest mistake, and apologized. He also said that it will not happen again. I do not understand he was jumped all over about this. This is not what I like to see when I come to this forum. This is also another reason that many people that come to this, and other forums, feel unwelcomed and do not return.

LAWReptiles, for what it's worth, I'm sorry for the way your were treated.

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I would sincerely hope that any person joining any forum looks at more than one bump in the road in a thread or two. As staff we cannot possibly make members get along. We can however insist they be polite, professional and adult in how they handle situations that arise here. I think my fellow staffers did a great job in bringing this thread back to a sensible tone quite quickly. :)

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

I'm gonna go on a limb here and point something out for you folks wondering why in the world Kevin jumped into the thread like he did....

This is NOT the only forum out there, and just about everyone has a history whether that be good or bad.

If anyone decides to point out something they thinks is important, more than likely there is a HISTORY behind it.

Kevin from what I've seen isn't the type of guy to get hot and bothered over just a posting of a pic, but rather the character posting the pic because of something important that has transpired in the past. ;)

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Connie, because that history may not be known or apparent to the vast majority of the membership all this sort of thing does is look like drama. Kevin may well have an opinion or be aware of something the majority here are not aware and if he feels strongly enough there are ways to deal with that. Jumping in and using the excuse of another member posting a picture without the proper nod to the producer of the snake isn't one of them.

Personally I could care less whose name is on what post so this is not a bash Kevin/support LAW response. I hope it will not be taken as such. It's simply a comment that on some forums this disruption of threads is allowed to go on, here at BPNet it is not. If that makes us seem tough or picky about how people post things or too family friendly or whatever, so be it....as they say...."that's how we roll". :)

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

So you’re stating that the OP has a history? And that Kevin was correct to jump all over him? It looked to me that someone made an honest mistake, and once realized apologized, and stated that he would not do it again.

For someone new to the site, this whole ordeal would look unwelcoming. I for one do not agree with jumping all over someone for an honest mistake, and name calling. It’s just wrong. IMO.

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Everyone has a history, whether it's good or bad. :cool:

I was merely pointing out that instead of thinking the only reason anyone jumps into threads like this is because of a simple mistake, that generally it's a good idea to take a step back and get privy to what the poster may be saying (as in kevins case, the back bone comment).

My point has been, while name calling is out of line and adds fuel to the fire and drama, the comment itself from Kevin is a good clue that perhaps there is some form of history out there to explain his comment.

If anyone wants to think threads like this are over simple mistake, that's fine, but all I have been saying is that the posts in this thread leave me to believe that there is more than meets the eye.

Do I have any personal knowledge of the OP? No, but there has been a link provided already that I assume explains the reactions. (I have not read it, nor do I really plan to)

Calling LAW a tool was a poor desicion on my part and I accept that and see how it may upset the sensibilities of other members. I am more than happy with the family atmosphere of BP.net infact I think that is one of the things that draws people here. I myself am married with two wonderful daughters and despite being surrounded by so much estrogen I am still a DUDE and I am still prone to drag my knuckles on the ground every once in a while. I do have a problem with people stealing others creative work, I do have a problem with people selling unhealthy ball pythons, and lastly I do have a problem with people that seem to have quick and easy excuses because it makes me wonder why they are so good at it. This isn't a me against him issue, this was just me trying to lookout for fellow members by way of my many years of experience. For those that I have offended I am sorry you feel that way, but my only regret of the thread was calling LAW a tool, the rest I stand by 100%.

It's like daddy just hit mommy at the dinner table and we're all still trying to eat.

Back to the topic's ORIGINAL purpose:

Yeah that Pinstripe Axan that BHB produced is pretty awesome.

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Back to the topic's ORIGINAL purpose:

Yeah that Pinstripe Axan that BHB produced is pretty awesome.

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Second that...axanthics are just super cool to make combo's with. Anyone know if there's a pastel axanthic pin? I bet that'd be even more awesomer!

ah well Kevin was right...
the truth comes out in the end