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i just bought my 2nd ball python and i know most poeple say not to do this i would like to intorduce my new one with my old on so they can share a cage like i said i know most will tell me not to i would still like to try and if anyone has any suggestons to hep i would love to here them

It really is not good to house snakes together just buy a tub if it a baby then at a later day get a viv. You really shouldn't of bought a new snake if you didn't have a separate viv for it...

Anyway it is not advised to house 2 in the same viv so maybe it is not such a good idea.

Highly advise against it, BP do not require companionship.

Also I would like to remind you that you need to practice strict quarantine procedures for at least 45 to 60 days, this means house in different enclosure and room, and NO contact with one another.

This is VERY important, not taking quarantine seriously can lead to disastrous consequences.

i have to diff places for the snakes thats not the problem i have 3 50 gallon tanks so yea but i would like to have them 2gether and i was told i could but i just want to know if anyone else has done this and how

I just wanted to add my two cents in here. You mentioned you were told you could. If it has anything to do with what they told you at the petstore, try your best to forget about it. EVERY single time i have compared notes between the pros on this site, and the idiots at the pet store, the site always wins out. They just sell the pets, where we raise them, you know what i mean ?? Very good advice on this site :D ty, ill step down off the soapbox now :D Sorry if i offended anyone ( except un-knowledgeable pet store owners ) :D

hey yea i deff get were you guys are comin from the only reason im askin is cuase theres this breeder my dad knows and he keeps his togethere and not just when there breedin like hell keep 2 or 3 together....i dont know:confused:

Crazy world eh?

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Originally Posted by PrincessBaby219

hey yea i deff get were you guys are comin from the only reason im askin is cuase theres this breeder my dad knows and he keeps his togethere and not just when there breedin like hell keep 2 or 3 together....i dont know:confused:

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Well, a lot of people make less-than-wise choices about how to care for their animals. Just because someone else does it doesn't mean it's a good thing to do. And just because someone calls him/herself a "breeder" doesn't automatically mean they are exempt from making foolish choices as well.

CAN two (or more) ball pythons be housed together? Sure. But doing so carries with it a significant degree of risk for multiple problems...everything from one or more snakes refusing to eat...to the spread of serious diseases...to extremes such as one snake killing and/or eating another. Some people choose to accept these risks. Some people choose to ignore them or even deny their reality.

What YOU choose to do is entirely up to you. ;)

Read this site and then make your decision.

Also a 50 gallon is much too large for any sized ball python.

http://pinkladyconstrictors.com/?page_id=10

I think you need to think about this. Are you doing this for your convienence, or completely for your snakes?

Snakes don't need to be kept together because they have no social system. Often the stress from constantly being around another animal can weaken their immune system, or more often, cause them to refuse food. They don't become friends, they don't cuddle, and they don't play together.

If one animal gets sick, chances are your going to double that vet bill. The other one will get sick as well.

First and foremost, keep the needs of your snakes before your own wants, and they will thrive in your care. :gj:

If you're completely set on keeping them both in one 50 gal, there's a simple solution... DIVIDE IT. Get a divider and split the 50 gal in half. Put your UTH in the middle of the tank so it's spanning a part of both sides. You'll have the best of both worlds, two snakes in one tank, with each having their own space and temp gradient...

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Read this site and then make your decision.

Also a 50 gallon is much too large for any sized ball python.

http://pinkladyconstrictors.com/?page_id=10

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just courious (not trying to start a fight) how can a cage be too big because i keep my adult bp in a 50 gallon.

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just courious (not trying to start a fight) how can a cage be too big because i keep my adult bp in a 50 gallon.

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Bps tend to feel more secure in a close, secure environment. I had my 3 foot 800 gram adult in a 55 and he NEVER came out of his hides. I moved him into, either a 20 or a 29, im not sure. But ever since then, he is alot more active, and never refuses a meal. They LOVE being closed in tight . !!!

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just courious (not trying to start a fight) how can a cage be too big because i keep my adult bp in a 50 gallon.

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It's not a hard-and-fast rule for balls....but IF you have a snake that seems stressed out and/or isn't eating...considering the size of its enclosure as a source of its stress is a wise thing to do. Some bp's do fine in large enclosures. Some seem to have strong preferences for smaller confines.

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Originally Posted by sheep-

just courious (not trying to start a fight) how can a cage be too big because i keep my adult bp in a 50 gallon.

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Basically what they said.
Even though some BPs do better in a bigger environment, a 30 gallon breeder would be a good 'bigger' environment for a ball and a 20 gallon would fit any adult. 50-55 gallons to me seem stressful and too large to properly be able to regulate heat and humidity. Too much work too.
Sometimes, larger cages are ok when the cage is properly heated and humidity is correct and the cage is well packed with lots of foliage and is very cramped. :]

Most everyone on this site will agree that it's best to house your ball pythons seperately.
If your dad's friend who is a breeder is keeping his that way, then I'd suggest you ask him for advice on how he keeps his together. While you do that, ask him how often his snakes eat(not how often he tries to feed them, but how often they actually eat), how many regurges he experiances, what the weight gain is on the snakes kept together, and what he does when one gets a resp infection, or other medical issue.
If you have some reason for trying to keep two snakes together, then you can try to do that. But it's preferred by MOST people who keep/raise/breed ball pythons to keep them 1 to a enclosure, for many many good reasons. I haven't yet heard a GOOD reason for keeping more than one snake to a enclosure.
Just my own advice, keep them seperate, and preferably smaller enclosures for smaller ball pythons.