Where to get one

I have a bit of a problem. Last year I decided that I wanted a red-tail boa, so i did my research and took care of everything that i needed too. I have even already built a cage for it. The problem is that I forgot that boas and pythons are not "permitted" in the city. If anybody knows a place where I can pick one up I would greatly appreciate the help.

if they are not allowed where you live, then I cannot help ya!
if I have misunderstood your post, please elaborate!

Nope, you got it right, unfortunately, lol

oops, i forgot to mention that i live in new york city

time to move to a nicer place!
sorry to hear of your dilemma.....


what exacly is the language of the ban? if it's in terms of species or length, there may be legal alternatives that may fulfill your dreams.

If you can post the law here we can probably help!

Looks like about the only thing you can keep is a corn snake. They are banning at the FAMILY level...

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Prohibited reptiles in NYC
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front-fanged venomous snakes, even if devenomized, including, but not limited to,

all Viperidae (viper, pit viper),
all Elapidae (cobra, mamba, krait, coral snake),
all Atractaspididae (African burrowing asp),
all Hydrophiidae (sea snake), all Laticaudidae (sea krait);

all venomous, mid-or rear-fanged, Duvernoy-glanded members of the family Colubridae, even if devenomized;

any member, or hybrid offspring of the family Boidae, including, but not limited to, the common or green anaconda and yellow anaconda;

any member of the family Pythonidae, including but not limited to the African rock python, Indian or Burmese python, Amethystine or scrub python;

any member of the family Varanidae, including the white throated monitor, Bosc's or African savannah monitor, Komodo monitor or dragon, Nile monitor, crocodile monitor, water monitor, Bornean earless monitor;

any member of the family Iguanidae, including the green or common iguana;

any member of the family Teiidae, including, but not limited to the golden, common, or black and white tegu;

all members of the family Chelydridae, including snapping turtle and alligator snapping turtle;

and all members of the order Crocodylia, including, but not limited to alligator, caiman and crocodile

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Originally Posted by fishmommy

time to move to a nicer place!
sorry to hear of your dilemma.....


what exacly is the language of the ban? if it's in terms of species or length, there may be legal alternatives that may fulfill your dreams.

If you can post the law here we can probably help!

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ha, yeah, I used to live in florida and right now i wish i still did. like it says above no members of the family boidae no matter the size. oh well, guess ill have to wait till i move again :rage:

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Originally Posted by fishmommy

time to move to a nicer place!
sorry to hear of your dilemma.....


what exacly is the language of the ban? if it's in terms of species or length, there may be legal alternatives that may fulfill your dreams.

If you can post the law here we can probably help!

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Well, not being able to keep a boa isn't really reason enough to move, but believe me, I was actually thinking about it, haha. Thanks for posting the law norm, saved me alot of time. It would appear as if I will have to make due with my cornsakes, lol.

or you could just drive to jersey and buy one... then drive it home. they will never know you have the snake just tell your friends its a corn snake :8:

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Originally Posted by andwhy6

or you could just drive to jersey and buy one... then drive it home. they will never know you have the snake just tell your friends its a corn snake :8:

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You know, that's such a simple solution and it never even crossed my mind, lol. Thanks so much, I never would have thought of that, I was thinking too locally.

Tell them it's a corn snake, I would love to meet the person that you could pull that one on, ha.

I am sorry but I have to voice my opinion.. and I know that it is just an opinion however its something I feel strongly about.

Doing things like this, and getting caught only gives our government more reason to step in a regulate our hobby.

Its always best to follow the laws whether you agree with them or not. In the long run, the more people that do just drive over the border to another state and return with something they aren't supposed to have, effects all of us who do abide by the law. Then in return we have to deal with the consequences of others actions.

I agree with Kristy, it will only make things worse:(

Which sucks, but corns are very nice too:gj:

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Originally Posted by Kristy

I am sorry but I have to voice my opinion.. and I know that it is just an opinion however its something I feel strongly about.

Doing things like this, and getting caught only gives our government more reason to step in a regulate our hobby.

Its always best to follow the laws whether you agree with them or not. In the long run, the more people that do just drive over the border to another state and return with something they aren't supposed to have, effects all of us who do abide by the law. Then in return we have to deal with the consequences of others actions.

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You know, I expected someone to say this but I expected it to be written sooner. As you know, your opinion is definitely valued on this website, but unfortunately, and I don't mean to be rude, everyone has a different one. I never considered the chance that this might have an effect on others because I know the chances of me getting caught are slim. The people that would know that i have one would not care and anyone that would care would not know. Now that you have brought it to my attention though, perhapes I will have to give alittle more thought to this.

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Originally Posted by Kristy

I am sorry but I have to voice my opinion.. and I know that it is just an opinion however its something I feel strongly about.

Doing things like this, and getting caught only gives our government more reason to step in a regulate our hobby.

Its always best to follow the laws whether you agree with them or not. In the long run, the more people that do just drive over the border to another state and return with something they aren't supposed to have, effects all of us who do abide by the law. Then in return we have to deal with the consequences of others actions.

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Unfortunately this is true. As far as I know, I can't find any laws against snakes in Illinois. I'm glad for it, but breaking the law isn't the best idea.

Hello,

I think some of the posters in this thread need to go back and read the rules of the site.

Specifically this one;

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Originally Posted by Site terms and conditions

8. No posts promoting illegal behavior will be tolerated, including but not limited to warez/pirating of copyrighted material, illegal drug or alcohol usage, and illegal ownership or trafficking of species.

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I realise how frustrating these laws can be but unfortunately that doesn't change the fact they exist. :(


dr del

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Originally Posted by XRFC07

You know, I expected someone to say this but I expected it to be written sooner. As you know, your opinion is definitely valued on this website, but unfortunately, and I don't mean to be rude, everyone has a different one. I never considered the chance that this might have an effect on others because I know the chances of me getting caught are slim. The people that would know that i have one would not care and anyone that would care would not know. Now that you have brought it to my attention though, perhapes I will have to give alittle more thought to this.

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Thats the thing though, people have been caught, and that's why these laws exist, to prevent problems. Most laws have good reason to exist and if you are caught, it could be loads of trouble for them individually as well as people who are responsible enough to abide by the rules.
It's bothered me my whole life, that I have to be held back for things like curfew and such even though I've always been very against things like drugs and violence, and people who get away with things in my town. Ugh..bah.

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Originally Posted by XRFC07

You know, I expected someone to say this but I expected it to be written sooner. As you know, your opinion is definitely valued on this website, but unfortunately, and I don't mean to be rude, everyone has a different one. I never considered the chance that this might have an effect on others because I know the chances of me getting caught are slim. The people that would know that i have one would not care and anyone that would care would not know. Now that you have brought it to my attention though, perhapes I will have to give alittle more thought to this.

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No offense taken, I realize that everyone views things differently. I just had to bring it up, not to come down on you personally.
Most people don't think about the overall outcome. One person may get away with it, but for that one person how many get caught?
That is what creates the problem, is one person brings negativity into the herp world, it comes down on all of us.
Its up to the entire herp community to act responsible and follow herps laws as a whole, in order to keep this hobby.

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hello,

I think some of the posters in this thread need to go back and read the rules of the site.

Specifically this one;



I realise how frustrating these laws can be but unfortunately that doesn't change the fact they exist. :(


dr del

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Sorry, I guess I just forgot that. I have waited a long time to get the snake, I guess I can wait another four years until I move again. Thanks for all of your posts and for forcing me to realize just how much of a mistake I was about to make.

It will be worth the wait :gj: