Did you see this? WOW

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1566572,1566572

Sweet! It was bound to happen. I like them odds too! To bad there wasn't a male platty!

That's some good luck all around.

Someone in Germany also produced Platinums from a Lesser to Normal.... I guess a few of those normals out there have the right genes! :)

Very cool! Stuff like that is what keeps this hobby interesting, you never know what may be lying hidden in your rack!:gj:

that is lucky! i hope some of that luck comes my way some day :D

wow more pics here:

http://www.oldworldpythons.com/platinumpics.htm

Hi,

Odd question;

Has anyone (I'm thinking Ralph here) bred together two of the normal looking siblings from a platty sired clutch?

Just trying to see if anyone has nailed down the genetics and shared. :)

I wondered if anyone knew if the platinum looked as it does because it is het for one gene and homo for another or het for two. Or if the fact it has the leser gene from the sire means it didn't get the dilute because they share the same location? :confused:

If the hidden gene is recessive does it have a visibly different homo form if you leave the lesser part out alltogether?

Does that make any sense?


dr del

I think I like this line of Platinum better than ralphs:oops: They are more " pink" Maybe its just the pictures

I think Ralph has tried every combo involved. I know he's gotten more plattys.
Those are hotties! Glad to hear there's hope for all of us!

RDR’s Birthing Records report a lot of pairings of the hidden gene hets (normal looking offspring of Platy) early on and he didn't report any visibly different homozygous hiddens. He even did platy X platy last year and produced a normal looking baby that should be a known homozygous hidden by the allele theory. If so, hidden apparently stays hidden even when homozygous.

I believe the platy is heterozygous for the white snake gene with one copy lesser mutant and the other hidden mutant (no normal copies so like a dark cross line leucistic in that sense).

With the hidden being hidden it's hard to say if they are 1%, 0.1%, or 0.01% of the general population but as more lessers are bred I suppose it's not surprising some of these hidden females are being found. Of course I also wander what Ralph has been doing with all his possible het hidden's over the years. Maybe some of those will start showing up through chance pairings with their lesser cousins.

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

I think I like this line of Platinum better than ralphs:oops: They are more " pink" Maybe its just the pictures

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I'm thinking this as well... they really do appear to have a more "redish/pinkish" tint to them... as an ex-coworker use to say all the time: "MUST BE NICE!" lol! Congrats to the folks that hit on that one :)

Regards,
Bristen.

I think the pinkish is because they are hatchlings. Whiter areas appear pink on hatchlings. From what I understand the only way to make a platy is to take a normal looking baby from a platy breeding and breed it to a lesser. The normal looking ones carry some hidden gene, so obviuosly there are some people with normals that happen to carry that hidden gene and they happen to breed them to a lesser, my question is will a mojave mixed with the hidden gene normal produce anything like a platy? I assume a butter will since they are virtually the same morph(different line) IMO. I would think Ralph has tried this but maybe not?

"Butter Daddies" have been produced by Ralph... nobody has done the Mojave x hidden gene yet because as of yet, only Ralph had the hidden gene and he doesn't own Mojaves I believe... I used to think a Mojave x hidden gene was a Crystal, but as someone (I forget who?) correctly pointed out when I mentioned it, the "specials" required to make a Crystal are different from normals.. the Platty hidden gene animals are apparently perfectly normal...

sooo.. Mojave Daddies in the near future? Having the hidden gene in a few extra hands may produce some interesting stuff very soon!

Regards,
Bristen.