Explain axanthic line compatibility Please

I am sure this has been explained, but I have heard that not all axanthic lines are compatible with eachother? Does this mean you wont get an axanthing with say a vpi het bred to a TSK het? Does this make sense? Or am I making things up? :P And has a snow hatched using the tsk line yet? Or has it been done? Just curious! Thanks all! :) :salute:

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

I am sure this has been explained, but I have heard that not all axanthic lines are compatible with eachother? Does this mean you wont get an axanthing with say a vpi het bred to a TSK het? Does this make sense? Or am I making things up? :P And has a snow hatched using the tsk line yet? Or has it been done? Just curious! Thanks all! :) :salute:

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None of the three lines are compatible. TSK, VPI, and Joliff...to get axanthics from hets they must be from the same line.

If you bred a het VPI to a het TSK you'd get possible DH for both lines.

Here's a SK Axanthic, it's a more uncommonly kept line, I think they're sort of cool:
http://ballpython.com/kingsnake/axanthic.jpg

A snow has been hatched using the TSK line, picture here:
http://ballpython.com/kingsnake/sksnowball_lg.jpg

Any other questions?

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Originally Posted by jknudson

A snow has been hatched using the TSK line, picture here:
http://ballpython.com/kingsnake/sksnowball_lg.jpg

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OMG! that snake is stunning!!!!:O:gj:

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Originally Posted by jknudson

None of the three lines are compatible. TSK, VPI, and Joliff...to get axanthics from hets they must be from the same line.

If you bred a het VPI to a het TSK you'd get possible DH for both lines.

A snow has been hatched using the TSK line, picture here:
http://ballpython.com/kingsnake/sksnowball_lg.jpg

Any other questions?

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:salute:Perfect! :)

I just wasnt sure and wanted to double check! Thanks fellow minnesotian! :P

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

:salute:Perfect! :)

I just wasnt sure and wanted to double check! Thanks fellow minnesotian! :P

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No problem bro!

Just remember...the DH are only going to give you one line or the other...as far as I remember the DH aren't going to give you a 1 in 16 VPI SK Axanthic combo, the genes can't work that way.

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Originally Posted by jknudson

No problem bro!

Just remember...the DH are only going to give you one line or the other...as far as I remember the DH aren't going to give you a 1 in 16 VPI SK Axanthic combo, the genes can't work that way.

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Is that right Jason? I hadn't heard of that before and I don't see why you couldn't have a double homozygous axanthic from two different lines? Who's proved that you can't? I can see where it would be very difficult to prove it was double homozygous, but I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Is that right Jason? I hadn't heard of that before and I don't see why you couldn't have a double homozygous axanthic from two different lines? Who's proved that you can't? I can see where it would be very difficult to prove it was double homozygous, but I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I could've sworn I've seen a conversation about this before and it was explained that it shouldn't work...

Where's Randy Remington?

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Here's one of the discussions I'm referring to:
http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...d.php?p=346401

I don't know if you could say that it won't work, as I don't think there have been enough breedings of DH Axanthics to know the true outcome. As far as I know, none of the DH x DH breedings have ever been documented anywhere. I have heard they have happened, but never read the results anywhere.

I personally believe it is possible.

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Originally Posted by muddoc

I don't know if you could say that it won't work, as I don't think there have been enough breedings of DH Axanthics to know the true outcome. As far as I know, none of the DH x DH breedings have ever been documented anywhere. I have heard they have happened, but never read the results anywhere.

I personally believe it is possible.

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Tim, are you talking about the DH x DH for snows havent been documented :confused: Because they have havent they? Or are you talking about the DHxDH with two different axanthic lines have never been documented?

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

Tim, are you talking about the DH x DH for snows havent been documented :confused: Because they have havent they? Or are you talking about the DHxDH with two different axanthic lines have never been documented?

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DH x DH involving DH's for 2 different strains of Axanthic (i.e DH VPI / TSK Axanthics bred together). I know there are some DH Axanthics out there, as some people, especially Mike Jolliff, have tried to breed 2 strains of Axanthics together to prove compatibility. So, DH's definitely exist. I just have never seen any documantation of them being bred together and what the outcomes were.

I have long thought about getting another line of Axanthics just to try the breeding.

Very Interesting And Exciting!!! :d

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Originally Posted by muddoc

I have long thought about getting another line of Axanthics just to try the breeding.

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You and me both.

Wanna trade? ;)