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So here he is......

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  • 07-22-2008, 09:22 PM
    jandsfannon
    So here he is......
    Hi,

    So we were able to pick him up from the Breeder today and once we got him home I took some pics. The breeder said he is a normal het for pastel so if I ever breed him I have a chance to get pastel balls. He was really shy until he had been in his tank for 5 mins ever since he has not stopped exploring!!! I swear he is trying to find his way out too. The only thing is he has not gone into his hide, im not too sure if he hasnt found it yet or doesnt care to look for it right now. Any way here are some pics:

    http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...n/IM001452.jpg

    http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...n/IM001453.jpg

    http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/n...n/IM001456.jpg

    Hope you like him, and any suggestions for names would be great since I have never named a snake!!

    Thanks
    Sabrina

    P.S. I apologize if this show up twice I was having computer issues!!!
  • 07-22-2008, 09:31 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: So here he is......
    Pastel is a co-dom trait. There isn't a 'het for pastel'. Did the seller say "pastel sibling"?
    It's a very nice looking normal. I name all my snakes with people names. Sam, or Thomas... he looks like a Thomas.
    Congrats on your new snake!
  • 07-22-2008, 09:39 PM
    jandsfannon
    Re: So here he is......
    He said the father is a normal and the mother is a pastel so you have a chance of getting pastels. I havent read up on Python genetics yet but knowing about leopard gecko morphs I wonder what he meant then?
  • 07-22-2008, 09:47 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: So here he is......
    Generally speaking, if it's got a pastel gene, it looks pastel. If it gets two pastel genes, it looks like a super pastel.
    Since yours looks normal, it did not get the pastel gene, and therefor is not a pastel, or a carrier of pastel genes.
    If this is not correct, I'm sure someone will jump in here.
  • 07-22-2008, 09:50 PM
    sg1trogdor
    Re: So here he is......
    Yup just a nice normal thats all.
  • 07-22-2008, 09:54 PM
    monk90222
    Re: So here he is......
    If you breed him to a pastel female, you will get pastels!
  • 07-22-2008, 11:18 PM
    starmom
    Re: So here he is......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by monk90222 View Post
    If you breed him to a pastel female, you will get pastels!

    :rofl: and normals :rofl:
    You have a very beautiful snake; I love normals!!
  • 07-23-2008, 02:27 AM
    Somed00d
    Re: So here he is......
    What your saying is that your snake is a pastel sibling, basically a normal from a pastel x normal breeding. If he said it was het pastel then he has mislead you. Any documentation?

    I hope he didn't charge extra for that!!



    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jandsfannon View Post
    He said the father is a normal and the mother is a pastel so you have a chance of getting pastels. I havent read up on Python genetics yet but knowing about leopard gecko morphs I wonder what he meant then?

  • 07-23-2008, 06:23 AM
    rabernet
    Re: So here he is......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jandsfannon View Post
    The breeder said he is a normal het for pastel so if I ever breed him I have a chance to get pastel balls.

    If that's what your breeder told you, then your breeder lied to you. There is no such thing as het for pastel.

    Since pastel is co-dom - a pastel is technically a het for super pastel.

    This link may help you to understand the genetics of a co-dominate mutation like a pastel.

    http://www.ballpython.ca/genetics.html

    and more specifically:
    http://www.ballpython.ca/what_get/co_dominant.html

    You got a nice little normal ball male ball python. I hope that the breeder didn't charge you extra for him. :(
  • 07-23-2008, 07:20 AM
    abhorrent
    Re: So here he is......
    He looks nice. I wouldn't worry, my girl didn't go in her hide for about 48 hours after bringing her home (she actually just sat on top of them, flicking her tongue around inside of them every now and again).
  • 07-23-2008, 08:51 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: So here he is......
    Lovely snake and congrats on getting it. :)

    If this breeder used a term like het for pastel and if they charged you anything extra for this snake or told you it carried pastel genes, then I'd have some serious concerns about just how much that breeder really knows about ball pythons or if they tried to run a scam on you and make some extra money off a normal. Hopefully that didn't happen.
  • 07-23-2008, 10:52 AM
    jandsfannon
    Re: So here he is......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno View Post
    Lovely snake and congrats on getting it. :)

    If this breeder used a term like het for pastel and if they charged you anything extra for this snake or told you it carried pastel genes, then I'd have some serious concerns about just how much that breeder really knows about ball pythons or if they tried to run a scam on you and make some extra money off a normal. Hopefully that didn't happen.

    The breeder obviously didnt know genetics, or the terms to use for genetics (which at the time sounded correct because as I said of my knowledge of Leo Gecko genetics) but no I did not pay any more for him. I paid $50.00 for him (I was able to get him a little cheaper because he was one of the last 2 of that clutch)
  • 07-23-2008, 11:00 AM
    casperca
    Re: So here he is......
    Maybe it is just me but that seems a little high. I've seen 100% het albino males for 50. But I don't want to be a downer. He's beautiful! Congrats on your new ball!
  • 07-23-2008, 11:03 AM
    extensive
    Re: So here he is......
    there is no het for pastel. please tell us all who the breeder is so we can stay away from him.
  • 07-23-2008, 11:30 AM
    ZinniaZ
    Re: So here he is......
    I paid $50 for my normal bp. I think normals range from 35 to 65 around here. (Except at the petstore where they are $129.) Fifty is not a bad price.

    Besides-- he is a great looking boy. I hope you enjoy him. :)
  • 07-23-2008, 11:52 AM
    jandsfannon
    Re: So here he is......
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by extensive View Post
    there is no het for pastel. please tell us all who the breeder is so we can stay away from him.

    For any of you in the States there is no need to worry he is in Toronto, Canada. Anyone from Toronto that wants to know can PM me and I will let them know. But he is very small does not go to shows, I think he is still new and learning. Obviously that is no excuse, but Im just happy that I got a nice little snake! :)


    Sabrina
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