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  • 07-18-2008, 06:19 AM
    jessie_k_pythons
    oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    ok could use some help.

    during the move from GA to AZ my snakes got out of there bags... I didn't think much of it because I had 2 "females", WRONG!!

    I'm looking at 8 eggs from Big Mama.

    She is still coiled around them and they are warm right now, i have hatch right and a Sterilite small tub but how many holes if any do I need to add to the tub and what not... I simply need a quick crash course in eggs.

    I feel like such a dumb #$@% right now and I want to kick myself but the eggs need help so I'm coming to you all for guidance. Will post photos in a few.

    thank you thank you !!!
  • 07-18-2008, 07:25 AM
    rabernet
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Jessie,

    Hopefully you've had the incubator running so that it's up to temp (incubate at about 89-90). If not - it's not going to hurt to leave eggs with mom until it's running and you're certain that there are no temp fluctuations.

    No holes in the egg box. Gently transfer the eggs to your eggbox with the Hatchrite, put some Glad Press & Seal over the top of the box, then add the lid.

    I like to have my thermostat probe inside one of my egg boxes (got this tip from Kev and Kara).

    Good luck!
  • 07-18-2008, 07:46 AM
    jessie_k_pythons
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    No I had no clue that she was even gravid. but every thing is running smoothly thus far. here are some photos I took. I have no clue if the eggs are even alive. They all could be slugs. When would be a good time to candle them?

    http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...licki/eggs.jpg
    http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ki/eggs2-1.jpg
  • 07-18-2008, 07:49 AM
    rabernet
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Yes, I would candle them to check for veins. A small flashlight works well.
  • 07-18-2008, 07:55 AM
    jessie_k_pythons
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    well I dont see anything.:tears:

    I'll check again at another time.
  • 07-18-2008, 08:36 AM
    sweety314
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Good luck, Jessie!! I'm not any sort of expert, but the egg she's "rolled out" looks like a slug. But it sure would be exciting, if it isn't.

    Best wishes floating your way.


    R.
  • 07-18-2008, 01:53 PM
    jessie_k_pythons
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    yeah I'm thinking the same thing too. I guess only time will tell.

    Edit: looks as if she did slug out. The all the eggs but one have turned yellow-ish.

    I dont think it was due to being under weight, maybe over weight. she is a huge girl. I'll try for next year though with my pastel. I wanted to shoot for this year but I had no clue that she was gravid.

    must have been when we were in Texas when they both out out of the bags while in a rubbermade tub I had.
  • 07-18-2008, 01:57 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    They actually all kinda look like slugs... from the lighting.

    Candle them to be sure, but the roll out is for sure a slug.
  • 07-18-2008, 06:48 PM
    jessie_k_pythons
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    checked on them again and all but one are slugs. the 8th one is still healthy white but I dont want to mess with it. if it makes it the next few days then I'll candel it again.

    The rest are now brown.
  • 07-18-2008, 06:49 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Well, that kinda is dissapointing..

    But good luck with the one egg!!!
  • 07-18-2008, 11:54 PM
    jessie_k_pythons
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    well I will say this, There was some dispute as to if "Big Mama" was in fact female. for the price I paid for her she really should have been a male. But now that can be laid to rest and I can look forward to breeding her to my pastel next year.

    so on to the next question... how do I keep her at a good healthy weight? keep up with what I'm doing now?

    I'm almost certain that it was her weight that made this happen. she is still well over 2000 grams and he is only 5 years old so power feeding must have happened with the breeder I bought her off of. I was feeding her a x-large rat every 7 days, he was feeding her every 4 to 5 days on jumbos. I felt that was a little much so I knocked down her food intake and fed her once a week like every one else.
  • 07-18-2008, 11:57 PM
    jessie_k_pythons
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Also I would like to thank every one for ther best wishes and advice. I was starting to freek there for a while.

    I'm just happy that my female is ok and that she is infact female.
  • 07-19-2008, 12:07 AM
    stangs13
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons View Post
    well I will say this, There was some dispute as to if "Big Mama" was in fact female. for the price I paid for her she really should have been a male. But now that can be laid to rest and I can look forward to breeding her to my pastel next year.

    so on to the next question... how do I keep her at a good healthy weight? keep up with what I'm doing now?

    I'm almost certain that it was her weight that made this happen. she is still well over 2000 grams and he is only 5 years old so power feeding must have happened with the breeder I bought her off of. I was feeding her a x-large rat every 7 days, he was feeding her every 4 to 5 days on jumbos. I felt that was a little much so I knocked down her food intake and fed her once a week like every one else.

    Dang!! She sure is eating a lot of large prey. Good luck with the one little one! :D
  • 07-19-2008, 12:18 AM
    jessie_k_pythons
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    yeah I felt that waht she was getting was a bit much
  • 07-19-2008, 12:32 AM
    adizziedoll
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Wow - good luck with that little egg - reminds me of Nemo :rolleyes:

    Is weight a big factor of slug-outs?
  • 07-19-2008, 02:12 AM
    jessie_k_pythons
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    I have been told it is. Under weight or over weight female produce more slugs. or so I have read on quite a few breeders websites. So I'll take there experience for truth.
  • 07-19-2008, 02:27 AM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons View Post
    well I will say this, There was some dispute as to if "Big Mama" was in fact female. for the price I paid for her she really should have been a male. But now that can be laid to rest and I can look forward to breeding her to my pastel next year.

    so on to the next question... how do I keep her at a good healthy weight? keep up with what I'm doing now?

    I'm almost certain that it was her weight that made this happen. she is still well over 2000 grams and he is only 5 years old so power feeding must have happened with the breeder I bought her off of. I was feeding her a x-large rat every 7 days, he was feeding her every 4 to 5 days on jumbos. I felt that was a little much so I knocked down her food intake and fed her once a week like every one else.

    As far as I know, it doesn't take 5 years at ALL to get a female up to breeding weight. ;]
    I really doubt it was her weight, breeders often breed females between 1200-2000g. Sometimes, first time clutches I have heard can be all slug outs. I know it is very common with corns I don't know as much if it is for balls. :]
  • 07-19-2008, 03:01 AM
    jessie_k_pythons
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Well this was her first clutch but like you I really dont know. She was in the 4000 gr range when I got her and her weight has been stable up to now.
  • 07-19-2008, 04:34 AM
    LadyOhh
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    Sometimes, first time clutches I have heard can be all slug outs.

    Sometimes... Sure.

    Always, nope.

    :)

    Younger females are more likely, under and overweight are more likely, but there is never a set for sure reason for slugs.
  • 07-19-2008, 10:57 AM
    rabernet
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    As far as I know, it doesn't take 5 years at ALL to get a female up to breeding weight. ;]
    I really doubt it was her weight, breeders often breed females between 1200-2000g. Sometimes, first time clutches I have heard can be all slug outs. I know it is very common with corns I don't know as much if it is for balls. :]

    Yes, an overweight female with a lot of fat can indeed slug out.

    Jessie, I wouldn't even be feeding her X-L rats. I'd tone her down to nice mediums or small larges. You want her to be athletic, not fat.
  • 07-19-2008, 11:00 PM
    jessie_k_pythons
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Yeah I fed her last night a smaller large rat. I' keep her on them.

    I'm going to continue to uses the rat suppler I have, each package comes with 4 rats in a meat packing tray. makes for easier stacking in the freezer and she always has rodents of all ages and sizes available. awesome prices as well.
  • 07-22-2008, 04:20 PM
    jessie_k_pythons
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Well the last egg died a day ago. We lost power during a thounder storm and we didnt het it back untill this morning around 10. I also lost my whole clutch of ground snake eggs.
  • 07-22-2008, 04:31 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    I'm so sorry.... :(
  • 07-22-2008, 08:20 PM
    dr del
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Aww,:(


    Sorry to hear that. I am constantly worrying what I would do if that were to happen to me. :hug:


    dr del
  • 07-22-2008, 08:50 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Somethings werent meant to happen. Now next year you will be totally prepared. I would write down her info(lay date, last shed) and you will have a better window of when she will be most likely ready next year;)

    I would go medium rats, sounds like you got a porker there:P
  • 07-23-2008, 02:29 PM
    joepythons
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Aww sorry to hear about your loss :(
  • 07-23-2008, 04:29 PM
    broadude
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Oh man. I am so sorry to hear about your loss. :tears:
  • 07-23-2008, 04:45 PM
    Drew87
    Re: oh my gosh oh my gosh!!! could use some help
    Sorry about loosing all the eggs but i would like to welcome you to AZ where about you living ?? im in phoenix
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