what do you keep your ASF's in

What do you keep your ASF's in?

I keep mine in 10 gallon tanks.

I have a 5 tub rack that uses kitty litter pans for tubs

All I have currently is a 1:4 in a 20 gal long.

Rack system just like every other rodents (makes it easier!)

We use the 66 quart sterilite stubs, they get a wheel that way :D

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

We use the 66 quart sterilite stubs, they get a wheel that way :D

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Mine do too ;)

I keep all mine in 73qt Sterilite tubs.

My pants?

Racks....

I have some in racks and others in tanks....I am about to make some more racks for all of them...I hate tanks!

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Mine do too ;)

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Deborah, I'm gonna start spamming you till you show me pics! I wanna see how you did it. I want to get to building myself an ASF rack. :please:

Orrr. If someone else out there wants to share with me. I really would like to get this on the way... I'd really appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Deborah, I'm gonna start spamming you till you show me pics! I wanna see how you did it. I want to get to building myself an ASF rack. :please:

Orrr. If someone else out there wants to share with me. I really would like to get this on the way... I'd really appreciate it.

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I use the rat rack that is in the DIY section http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=65939

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...rs/RatRack.jpg

The only difference is that I use 1/4 hardware cloth for ASF

The tubs are deep enough to allow a small wheel.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...ers/AsfTub.jpg

PM me if you need help building or where to find the tubs etc ;)

Mine are in eight 20L and one 75 gallon aquariums.

I think 10 gallon tanks are a better choice though since the thick glass on a 20L tank is overkill when it's not full of water, and causes the price to be quite a bit higher than a pair of 10G.

PILOT HOLES! DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I DID!


Debs racks are perfect!

thanks again Deb!

I have been keeping my initial 2.2 in a large tank, and have a few trios in small tanks, but use tubs as grow out containers. I find the ones that I have been handling from day one are not chewers, so they do OK in tubs, but that the first ones I got are major chewers and need tanks.

The goal though is to build a rack for them in the near future. Just seems like it will make the whole system easier.

Bruce

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Originally Posted by Reediculous

PILOT HOLES! DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I DID!
Debs racks are perfect!

thanks again Deb!

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Thanks to you Tyree

Someone did not read all the instructions thought ;)

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I would recommend to drill pilot holes.

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Sorry was in a hurry when I posed the thread... wanted to say that there are 3 reasons I probably won't change to tubs.

1.) In my opinion nothing is more secure then tanks. In a house like mine where my fiance does not particularly care for rodents, but tolerates them for my benefit... A loose rat is a MAJOR problem...

2.) I LOVE MY ASF's! They are Very relaxing for me to watch and care for. early in the morning, during the day, late at night... doesn't matter when. I just love to sit back and watch the tanks. (I have 12 - ten gallon tanks all on the same utilitly shelf) It's funny, I often spend more time with my ASF's then I do my snakes!!!!!

3.) While they are not as easy as tubs, 10 gallon tanks are still very easy to clean and keep up with. They are light, and easy to "dump"...

Its really just a personal preference suppose... I was just interested to see what others did and thought.

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Originally Posted by mcavana

Sorry was in a hurry when I posed the thread... wanted to say that there are 3 reasons I probably won't change to tubs.

1.) In my opinion nothing is more secure then tanks. In a house like mine where my fiance does not particularly care for rodents, but tolerates them for my benefit... A loose rat is a MAJOR problem...

2.) I LOVE MY ASF's! They are Very relaxing for me to watch and care for. early in the morning, during the day, late at night... doesn't matter when. I just love to sit back and wacetch the tanks. (I have 12 - ten gallon tanks all on the same utilitly shelf) It's funny, I often spend more time with my ASF's then I do my snakes!!!!!

3.) While they are not as easy as tubs, 10 gallon tanks are still very easy to clean and keep up with. They are light, and easy to "dump"...

Its really just a personal preference suppose... I was just interested to see what others did and thought.

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I like the convienence of feeding and watering them from outside the rack...makes it go much quicker...

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Originally Posted by monk90222

I like the convienence of feeding and watering them from outside the rack...makes it go much quicker...

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You have ASFs? I hadn't noticed! :O

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Originally Posted by jglass38

You have ASFs? I hadn't noticed! :O

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Yeah, I have a few....If you ever need any...lol

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Originally Posted by monk90222

Yeah, I have a few....If you ever need any...lol

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Should I come by after 6 or after 6:30! :D:rolleye2:

Cement tubs in a rack

Right now only one 10g tank and one small old plastic mouse cage.
I want to get more tanks and maybe put them in my basement on a large shelf or something.

Plastic tubs at the moment. I'm in the process of finishing two racks as we speak. One of the racks I'm using 1/4 inch mesh for the ASF'ers, anyone have any experience with using this size mesh for them?

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Originally Posted by monk90222

I like the convienence of feeding and watering them from outside the rack...makes it go much quicker...

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Agreed, and I have yet to even get a nibble on any of my cement mixing tubs. I highly doubt I ever will. I never had that problem with any of my other rodents.

I don't see having to fill tons and tons of water bottles. Can't stand it. Fill up a 5 gallon bucket once a week with a water hose and be done with it. No lids to fool with makes it a more efficient use of space too.

I keep mine in sterilite tubs. They are easy and light weight and I only have one snake to feed so I breed on a small scale. They are deep enough for wheels.

I breed them for my snake but I also find them to be interesting to watch. I have even pet themfrom time to time....very slowly.....

I don't have any, but will be picking some up this month. I'm planning on keeping them in my current rack, which has cement tubs. It's the rat rack design on Tim and Monica Bailey's site. I wonder if I need a smaller mesh for these, though.

tried various tubs varying degrees of thickness . Unfortunately I must have got '' The Demon Chewers from Hell '' .this , even more unfortunately for myself and my enduring wife , turned out to be a genetic trait , passed on to ALL the young.

Even reinforcing the vent holes with STEEL washers was to no avail .

I eventually ( why I did not sooner I will never know , ok ahm a guy , a stubburn dude ) switched them all over to glass tanks .

There is nothing more satisfying to someone who spent an entire weekend catching escapes , than watching the little varmits ( sp?) SLIDING down a glass wall with a look of utter disbelief on its face . Life is good , now !

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Originally Posted by SarahMB

I don't have any, but will be picking some up this month. I'm planning on keeping them in my current rack, which has cement tubs. It's the rat rack design on Tim and Monica Bailey's site. I wonder if I need a smaller mesh for these, though.

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If the rack uses 1/2 inch hardware cloth than it will not work.

You need to use 1/3 or 1/4 inch hardware cloth or the hoppers will squeeze through and escape, and trust me you do not want to start running for an ASF escapee!

Ah, thanks for that advice, Deborah! My rack does have 1/2 inch hardware cloth, so I will make some changes before the Austin show.

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Originally Posted by Royal Tartan

tried various tubs varying degrees of thickness . Unfortunately I must have got '' The Demon Chewers from Hell '' .this , even more unfortunately for myself and my enduring wife , turned out to be a genetic trait , passed on to ALL the young.

Even reinforcing the vent holes with STEEL washers was to no avail .

I eventually ( why I did not sooner I will never know , ok ahm a guy , a stubburn dude ) switched them all over to glass tanks .

There is nothing more satisfying to someone who spent an entire weekend catching escapes , than watching the little varmits ( sp?) SLIDING down a glass wall with a look of utter disbelief on its face . Life is good , now !

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Too funny! I'm with you. All my ASF's are behind glass because I'm just not a brave woman and can't deal with a lost ASF in this big old house of ours. We had one get loose the other night while feeding and it was enough of a hassle just recapturing the little dude. Btw, Frankykeno's Patent Pending Handy Dandy ASF Catcher came to the rescue again! *

*just an old plastic margarine tub with a lid, whomp down the tub over said little racing boogerhead, slide the lid very carefully along the floor, under the tub and in one practised motion flip over the tub whilst snapping on the lid....bingo...one caught albeit crabby as heck ASF ready for safe transport! :banana:*

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*just an old plastic margarine tub with a lid, whomp down the tub over said little racing boogerhead, slide the lid very carefully along the floor, under the tub and in one practised motion flip over the tub whilst snapping on the lid....bingo...one caught albeit crabby as heck ASF ready for safe transport!

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ya know the stall at the fairground ? you know , the get a goldfish by throwing a ping pong ball in the bowl ? ....... well I was crap at that ,lol weaners BOUNCE to much ( ahm sure there related distantly too kangaroos !!! ).... I did try with a container .....tasmanian devil springs to mind !

Its a really nice , pleasent view to watch a ASF try to be a gecko and climb glass . Too funny .

Ours are in tubs in a rack and 10 gallon tanks. I haven't had any chewing problems in the tubs and obviously none in the tanks :) . In fact I haven't had any chewing problems at all in the past few months. I've started to give the rats more leftovers and dog biscuits and the problem has stopped. Idle minds are the rat's playground. Or something like that.

Scottish ASFs are tenacious wee buggers ...always wanting to prove a point !

I use the Ars Caging 3021 with the 5" deep bins. They seem to do alright in there.

custom built rat racks

I keep my new 1.1 group ASF in an high IKEA tub (12 gallon), the same i keep my mice in since a couple of weeks. without any signs of chewing or escapees.
Lightweight, stackable, round edges that prevent chewing and high enough for a wheel, cheap by the way, simply perfect.
Hope my new fuzzies settle in soon and start to produce some lil babies, like my mice where I am waiting for my first preggo momma to give birth in a couple of days...:taz:

Whoa, Mike, check that out... lots of glass tank choices.

Okay, I have pet ASFs and feeder ones. The feeder ones started on a Penn Tennis Balls tub modified like the sterilite tubs on the DIY section. The pet ones (my trio breeder) started in a Habitrail hamster condo. The kids are always playing with the rats and the kids would not close the condo properly, so I moved them to a rubbermaid tub. They're in my office by my feet because I love looking at them all day long and I can't see clearly through the side of the tub. So, then my husband decided to get my son a hognose for Christmas, so we're preparing the tank. We would now have 3 snake tanks but not enough shelves, so we decided to put oversized built-in bookshelves on the office wall to put the snakes in. But the plastic tubs just didn't look right sitting on the wall with the awesome snake tanks. And I also have dwarf hamsters that need displaying (I'm going to have them breed once to observe a full hamster life-cycle and have the kids make a scientific observation on the difference in development between hamsters and ASFs). So, I decided to get glass tanks for everybody. I searched craigs and found this guy selling 8 10-gal reptile tanks for 5 bucks apiece. I went to pick up 4 of them for 20 bucks but the guy loaded all 7 (he dropped one and it cracked!) in the car! So, hey, 7 tanks for 20 bucks - that's almost the price of one sterilite, yes?

So, I answered glass tanks in the poll...

I'm also using the cement mixing tubs with 1/4 mesh on top. They are probably a bit bigger than necessary but I've had no chewing problems.

My construction is furring strips (called 1X2 but really about 3/4 of that) held together with 1.5" drywall screws. With proper pilot holes you can build some neat but cheap and light things with furring strips and drywall screws.

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Originally Posted by anatess

Whoa, Mike, check that out... lots of glass tank choices.

Okay, I have pet ASFs and feeder ones. The feeder ones started on a Penn Tennis Balls tub modified like the sterilite tubs on the DIY section. The pet ones (my trio breeder) started in a Habitrail hamster condo. The kids are always playing with the rats and the kids would not close the condo properly, so I moved them to a rubbermaid tub. They're in my office by my feet because I love looking at them all day long and I can't see clearly through the side of the tub. So, then my husband decided to get my son a hognose for Christmas, so we're preparing the tank. We would now have 3 snake tanks but not enough shelves, so we decided to put oversized built-in bookshelves on the office wall to put the snakes in. But the plastic tubs just didn't look right sitting on the wall with the awesome snake tanks. And I also have dwarf hamsters that need displaying (I'm going to have them breed once to observe a full hamster life-cycle and have the kids make a scientific observation on the difference in development between hamsters and ASFs). So, I decided to get glass tanks for everybody. I searched craigs and found this guy selling 8 10-gal reptile tanks for 5 bucks apiece. I went to pick up 4 of them for 20 bucks but the guy loaded all 7 (he dropped one and it cracked!) in the car! So, hey, 7 tanks for 20 bucks - that's almost the price of one sterilite, yes?

So, I answered glass tanks in the poll...

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Wow, you always find great deals! next time you find one of these great deals, and you don't want it, Hook me up with the heads up!!!

Mike

converted file-holder tubs

I have a question thats semi-related to this topic...

I've found a local breeder who has some for sale finally and I'm set to pick them up on Wednesday. Now the only thing he can supply for me to hold them in until I get home are cardboard holders with holes in them. I'm driving 2 hours to pick these guys up and I don't see this as a very safe option. I have 2 15qt steralite tubs I plan on bringing with holes all over the lids and a latching lid.

Do you think they'll bite through and possibly escape this tub on the way home?

I think you'll be fine. I keep mine in a sterlite 24/7 and they are good. If you doubt the top, bring a bungie cord or a heavy book to stay on top. You'll be good to go.

I am keeping mine in a 60q sterilite.

I am rather enjoying it. I have only had em in there a week. I am tweaking as I go. I am going to put the wheel on the side instead of on the lid.

I am unsure of placing the food hopper on the lid. I would like to try it and see how it goes. Right now I am using a basic food hopper like the kind you buy @ the feed store.

The problem with the food hopper I am using now is they throw the food out and hide in the hopper. So I am going to try a hopper in the lid made out of the hard ware cloth.

Has any one tried to mount the wheel on the side? If so how did it work?

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I have a question thats semi-related to this topic...

I've found a local breeder who has some for sale finally and I'm set to pick them up on Wednesday. Now the only thing he can supply for me to hold them in until I get home are cardboard holders with holes in them. I'm driving 2 hours to pick these guys up and I don't see this as a very safe option. I have 2 15qt steralite tubs I plan on bringing with holes all over the lids and a latching lid.

Do you think they'll bite through and possibly escape this tub on the way home?

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I picked up a trio of ASF's I drove 2 hours home and stopped a couple of times they spent the majority of the trip in a card board shoe box. I stopped at a pet store and bought a small plastic carry cage for them. It was kinda cramped but it had a lot of bedding in it and they just burrowed down and hid for the whole trip.

I think you should be fine with the card board box and the only reason I stopped and got the carry case is because I broke the rubber band that was on the box.

If you are only getting one trio I would stop and get a small case. If you are getting more than one I would get a case for each one and if you are getting more than a trio I would get a larger case.

Mine are in a rack system.

They are on the top level. 1.2 in each tub.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j1...s/DSC05607.jpg

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Mine are in a rack system.

They are on the top level. 1.2 in each tub.
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j1...s/DSC05607.jpg

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like those tubs where did you get them?

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Originally Posted by greghall

like those tubs where did you get them?

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They are table busing tubs from ACE Restaurant Supply.

http://www.acemart.com/janitorial/wa.../prod5484.html

I was using tubs for my ASF but they seem to love to chew on the tubs so now I am looking for metal cages that they cant chew through!

Lab tanks.

I have a breeder box like ThyTempest. I only have one trio.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...d/100_2888.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...d/100_2886.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...d/100_2887.jpg