What are some of the ways to make leucistic ball pythons

I have always wondered the many different combos. Cant you get Butter+Mojave to make lucy's?

Yes, Butter + Mojave will make a Leucy

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You can go the cheaper way and paint a BP all white...

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

You can go the cheaper way and paint a BP all white...

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Now, would you recommend spray paint for this type of job?

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

You can go the cheaper way and paint a BP all white...

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LOL!

Also how much are Butters and Mojave's individually?

I think mojaves go around 500. Never seen any butter prices...

Thanks. Yeah thats what I was just looking at online. But I cant find any butter prices.

Fire x Fire = Black Eyed Lucy
Lesser x Lesser = Blue Eyed Lucy
Mojave x Mojave = Blue Eyed Lucy
Butter x Butter = Blue Eyed Lucy
Lesser x Butter = Blue Eyed Lucy
Lesser x Mojave = Blue Eyed Lucy
Mojave x Butter = Blue Eyed Lucy
Pied x Lesser = All white Pied (Unsure of eye color Lucy)

Lessers = $700 - $1500
Butters = $800 - $1600
Fires = $1000 - $2000
Mojaves = $300 - $700
Pied = $1000 - $2500

Prices are ranges I have seen for 08 babies and depend on breeder and details that people look for when buying.

I saw a pied at a rep show for 4000. Must have been a rip off

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Originally Posted by mricyfire

Fire x Fire = Black Eyed Lucy
Lesser x Lesser = Blue Eyed Lucy
Mojave x Mojave = Blue Eyed Lucy
Butter x Butter = Blue Eyed Lucy
Lesser x Butter = Blue Eyed Lucy
Lesser x Mojave = Blue Eyed Lucy
Mojave x Butter = Blue Eyed Lucy
Pied x Lesser = All white Pied (Unsure of eye color Lucy)

Lessers = $700 - $1500
Butters = $1200 - $1800
Fires = $1000 - $2000
Mojaves = $300 - $700
Pied = $1000 - $2500

Prices are ranges I have seen for 08 babies and depend on breeder and details that people look for when buying.

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For the Mojave to Mojave What percent of babies are Leucy?

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Originally Posted by pythontricker

For the Mojave to Mojave What percent of babies are Leucy?

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I think it is
25% Normal
50% Mojave
25% Lucy

That sounds the cheapest

Just remember those more expensive ones have whiter lucy's and in my opinion if your gonna go for a Lucy might as well go all the way..get a lesser x2 or fire x2 :)

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

OR!!!

You can go the cheaper way and paint a BP all white...

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You can also try white out. But usually there's only enough in the bottle to make a pied.

tricker you bought that pastel from Jon's jungle( at the san diego show) right ? if so he had butters there for 750 to 850 and mojaves from 350

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Originally Posted by TheMolenater2

I saw a pied at a rep show for 4000. Must have been a rip off

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..Not necessarily :colbert:...Could be a high-white monster female...or could be het for something....

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Originally Posted by MarkS

You can also try white out. But usually there's only enough in the bottle to make a pied.

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:) The ol blotch technique...I also like the splatter technique...get ya a calico :D

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

..Not necessarily :colbert:...Could be a high-white monster female...or could be het for something....

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I agree :)

So the price on pieds has really fallen that far? I guess I should pay better attention. I sure hope I can get my 2 grand pair of hets to produce for me one of these years.

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Originally Posted by mricyfire

Fire x Fire = Black Eyed Lucy
Lesser x Lesser = Blue Eyed Lucy
Mojave x Mojave = Blue Eyed Lucy
Butter x Butter = Blue Eyed Lucy
Lesser x Butter = Blue Eyed Lucy
Lesser x Mojave = Blue Eyed Lucy
Mojave x Butter = Blue Eyed Lucy
Pied x Lesser = All white Pied (Unsure of eye color Lucy)

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phantom x lesser = blue eyed leucy (think its got blue eyes aswell?)

Don't forget about the Russo het lucys. This can be thrown into the mix, or bred together to make the lucys.

Is a lesser pastel included in this?

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Originally Posted by Starlitrain

Is a lesser pastel included in this?

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Welcome to the site!

This thread is really old, in the future just start a new one with your question.

So what exactly are you asking? Can a lesser pastel make a BEL?

Yes it can, just not by itself. You could breed a lesser pastel to any of the following and have a shot at producing a BEL:

mojave
Lesser
butter


As well as any combo morph that includes one of the three morphs I listed above.

There are others as well, but lets not make this too complicated for now.

I got my butter when she was a month old at a show for $180

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Originally Posted by alykoz

I got my butter when she was a month old at a show for $180

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Keep in mind this thread is from 2008

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Originally Posted by The Serpent Merchant

Keep in mind this thread is from 2008

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I should start checking the dates lol

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Originally Posted by alykoz

I should start checking the dates lol

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It happens to the best of us lol