Pastel Hatchlings..

...Just thought I'd throw a pic up, these hatched a couple days ago. 3 pastels out of 4 eggs not bad :) I havent sexed them yet. The daddy is a pastel (purchased from MarkS on the forum, thanks Mark!) and mommy is a normal. Enjoy, I will get more pics once they shed. :salute:
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/447fc644.jpg

Congrats man great odd's.

ohh, that normal has a nice black back man

just what i was going to say that normal is very beautiful congrats on a healthy clutch and the great odds

Ya I think the normal felt a bit intimidated having 3 pastel siblings, so he had to show them up some how. :P :)

Josh

Those look like Caramels or ghosts maybe it is just my computer.

Brock:taz:

I second what Brock said... they don't look like Pastels, much more of a Hypo type! You have any more pics?

Those are not pastels from my view either..

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Originally Posted by ShawnT

Those are not pastels from my view either..

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Same here- They look.. Differnt...

Do you have pix of the parents?

Phew... I thought it was just me as well. :)

They look like ghosts.

Maybe in perfect world you got both the babes from a breeder that sold PH ghosts as normals (and pastels)... never know. Luck of the draw.

Bruce

And did not say it... but that black back is just all shades of W :O W!

They are gorgeous!! Congrats!!!!
I have to agree with everyone- those pastels are hardly just pastels~ what beautiful babies!!! And that 'normal'?? No way just a normal!!!! Will you post pictures of the parents? Yours is a stunning clutch!!! :D

Wow :) ...to tell you the truth...I paired the mom(sold to me as a normal) with my dinker for a night (some of you have seen, looks cinny-like) but they showed no interest in eachother. So I paired her up with a Pastel whom I purchased from MarkS on the boards. ...Honestly...I thought the same thing when they hatched :) ...BUT...this is my first pastel clutch...and I know they go under a serious color change within that first week, so I just assumed they hadnt gone thru with that yet. :confused:

I will go down and snap pics of the parents with one of the pastels real quick tho! :)

The pic makes them look like caramels... make sure you get some post shed pics for us! :)

i agree with everyone, definately dont look like pastels, and that "normal" is stunning

Those 3 animals have no black...So I wouldn't call them pastels;)

I thought maybe the pic was over exposed because they do have that washed out ghost look.
Congrats either way on some pretty babies:gj:

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

I thought maybe the pic was over exposed because they do have that washed out ghost look.
Congrats either way on some pretty babies:gj:

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You are correct! :P I do lack skills in the photo department :) Here is a pic of what I thought were the mom and dad. Dad is the pastel and Mom is in shed.
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF5829.jpg


Here is a pic of mom with the Dinker. I only had them paired up for 24 hours...but maybe that was enough! :O :P

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF5831.jpg

And here is another pic of the normal...
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DSCF5834.jpg

I duno...there is no black on the hatchlings...other than the normal. But I think the first shed will say a lot. The Pastel Came from MarkS here on the boards. The female was sold as a normal from Dave Thompson, and the Dinker was picked up from a private breeder as a 'normal.' I wouldnt mind something new tho :salute:

I don't think the dinker is the father...I'm thinking the pastel is a pos het ghost and so is mom....But how come there are no pastel ghosts? Confusing...

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Originally Posted by ShawnT

I don't think the dinker is the father...I'm thinking the pastel is a pos het ghost and so is mom....But how come there are no pastel ghosts? Confusing...

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Wow that would be okay with me! ;) MarkS you have some explaining to do! :P ;)

Hey
Very cool clutch, they are definately not pastels. I would say ghosts or possibly carmels???

I know people that have hatched out clutches up to 8 eggs with one parent pastel and hatched no pastels... so just luck of the draw.

But you gotta love projects like this. Very exciting.

Bruce

So what does everyone think now? Can anyone post pics of there hatchling Balls...these guys are about 3 days old now. Is the black apparent right out of the egg? :confused:

either way those are great looking babies!...especially that normal

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

So what does everyone think now? Can anyone post pics of there hatchling Balls...these guys are about 3 days old now. Is the black apparent right out of the egg? :confused:

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Heres a pastel right out of the egg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1182/pastelfgu2.jpg

My 2 cents is that they are Ghosts that have started to go blue as they get closer to their first shed. I bet after they shed they will be a pretty shade orange --Ghost!! Now thats a snake mix-up to get excited about.:O Congrats.

Wow...mine really dont have that busy of a pattern either? :confused:

Wow man that's crazy! I definately agree with all of the above who said they are ghosts. You scored on that one!!!!

Justin

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Wow man that's crazy! I definately agree with all of the above who said they are ghosts. You scored on that one!!!!

Justin

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Ha, ya for what happened I was pretty calm during the hatching process...I mean look at my first post...I was stoked about gettin 3 'pastels' out of 4 eggs... :P :D

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

Ha, ya for what happened I was pretty calm during the hatching process...I mean look at my first post...I was stoked about gettin 3 'pastels' out of 4 eggs... :P :D

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Well now that you know you have a het orange and a het ghost... next season. POGS! :)

Bruce

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Originally Posted by Loft Lizard

Well now that you know you have a het orange and a het ghost... next season. POGS! :)

Bruce

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*clears throat* Let me try that again...

Now that you know you have a pastel het ghost and a het ghost... next season... POGS! :)

The gods were good to you this year, they will be twice as nice next year.

Bruce

But still sacrifice a virgin at sunset.

Anyone have pics of Pastel Orange Ghost? :P

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

Anyone have pics of Pastel Orange Ghost? :P

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http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...tel-ghost.html

http://www.coreywoods.com/pog.shtml

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

Ha, ya for what happened I was pretty calm during the hatching process...I mean look at my first post...I was stoked about gettin 3 'pastels' out of 4 eggs... :P :D

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Is ok, you can let it out! You did way better than 3 pastels in 4 eggs. Getting 3 ghosts out of 4 eggs on an unknown het x het is HUGE!

:gj::gj::gj:

Justin

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

Wow that would be okay with me! ;) MarkS you have some explaining to do! :P ;)

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Wow..... I'm at a complete loss. My breeder pastel was originally produced by **cough*Damion Wyatt*cough** and sold to me by **cough*Morph King Reptiles*cough** And I don't remember which female was the mother. I had 4 produce pastels that year and all were normal long term captives. Did I give you a card with that snake Josh?

Mark

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Wow..... I'm at a complete loss. My breeder pastel was originally produced by **cough*Damion Wyatt*cough** and sold to me by **cough*Morph King Reptiles*cough** And I don't remember which female was the mother. I had 4 produce pastels that year and all were normal long term captives. Did I give you a card with that snake Josh?

Mark

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Let me go see if I can find it Mark, I think you did, give me a bit as we moved between then and now. :)

edit: Mark I could not find the card, its somewhere, but like I said with the move.... :( I wanna say one of the names was 'sonya' maybe? My esp may be WAY off today :)

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Wow..... I'm at a complete loss. My breeder pastel was originally produced by **cough*Damion Wyatt*cough** and sold to me by **cough*Morph King Reptiles*cough** And I don't remember which female was the mother. I had 4 produce pastels that year and all were normal long term captives. Did I give you a card with that snake Josh?

Mark

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LOL! Hope you can figure out the mom - Looks like you have a couple snakes to prove out..... :D

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

Anyone have pics of Pastel Orange Ghost? :P

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Here's mine
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...OGTopGlass.jpg

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

Let me go see if I can find it Mark, I think you did, give me a bit as we moved between then and now. :)

edit: Mark I could not find the card, its somewhere, but like I said with the move.... :( I wanna say one of the names was 'sonya' maybe? My esp may be WAY off today :)

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Oh no no no no no.... It wasn't Celeste was it? It was either Andrea1, Andrea2, Celeste or Adie. Unfortunately Celeste died this past year. :( But I do have 4 female pastels that are daughters of hers that I've kept and am raising up.

Mark

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Originally Posted by MarkS

Oh no no no no no.... It wasn't Celeste was it? It was either Andrea1, Andrea2, Celeste or Adie. Unfortunately Celeste died this past year. :( But I do have 4 female pastels that are daughters of hers that I've kept and am raising up.

Mark

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eeek! Celeste rings more of a bell the any of the Anreas...I just dont remember any numbers after any names :( ....well at least you have some of her offspring too start to prove out! :please:

...Thanks everyone for your help! Good thing I posted pics, I originally wasnt....I was just going to throw them up for sale as 'pastels' :O but I was bored yesterday and like I said, I thought they looked a bit different so I threw them up here to see what all thought....boy, good thing I didnt sell them as pastels! :P

...would you have been mad if you received a ghost instead of a pastel? :)

Haha, I'll buy a "Pastel" from you.:P

-Chris-

Well I tried to pop them this morning, and they dont know how to bite but they sure know how to defecate! One could be a water gone as she had some distance! :D
Anywho, either my luck hasnt ended, or they just didnt give me anything, but they are all looking like girls! :O I am going to try again in a week after they shed, I have a hard time feeling I dont have 1 male in there! :confused:

Cool!!! Maybe you'll hit on a Pastel Hypo next time.