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  • 06-25-2008, 09:18 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    No Normals: :D -- ALL BOYS!!!: :O

    Hatched 6-24: One of them will be staying and breeding for me next season. The other pretty boys will be moving on to a good home.https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...23_1_thumb.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...0322_thumb.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...0587_thumb.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...27_1_thumb.jpg
  • 06-25-2008, 09:21 PM
    ChicaPiton519
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    nice
    spiders and their related morphs are some of my faves =]
  • 06-25-2008, 09:34 PM
    Ladydragon
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    wow.. nice hatchlings.. but wow all boys?! what are the odds of that happening? congrats all the same, healthy hatchlings are what counts.
  • 06-25-2008, 09:46 PM
    dr del
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Oh ...my.... God...


    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...000_0027_1.jpg

    That sputter is the sexiest damn thing I have seen in decades - and I own a mirror. :O

    What do they look like when they are older?


    dr del
  • 06-25-2008, 09:59 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    You mean Butter Bees?
  • 06-25-2008, 10:17 PM
    AVALover5498
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    and I own a mirror. :O

    Your funny.:)

    -Chris-
  • 06-25-2008, 10:19 PM
    Argentra
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    ....... OMG I want that one in the middle!! I don't care that he's a male! Probably WAY out of my monetary abilities, tho. :)
  • 06-25-2008, 10:29 PM
    Mochelem
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Argentra View Post
    ....... OMG I want that one in the middle!! I don't care that he's a male! Probably WAY out of my monetary abilities, tho. :)


    Yes i saw the one in the middle, I like it a lot, looks almost white.... Good job!!!
  • 06-25-2008, 11:32 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38 View Post
    You mean Butter Bees?

    Butter Bees would be Butter x Bumble Bee -- I think? My Spider female almost looks like a Bee at first glance. She is light, reduced in pattern, clean, AND has ZERO "Spider issues".

    My Butter male is extraordinary and left me little decision who I would pair with her. My Butter is an early 07 (1200) grams and has fathered a dozen clutches this season. Even his babies from rather drab Normal girls are pretty. He is done this year except one last Cinny girl I'm hoping will go late.

    I'll post some post-shed pics and take some more time. I just grabbed some afternoon sun (a little bright) in my front yard. I'm very pleased with the clutch- especially my little piece of eye candy!!! He is proof that superior base morphs make a better combo. ;) Thanks for looking and all the nice comments...
  • 06-25-2008, 11:45 PM
    ShawnT
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Lesser x Spider = LesserBee....so it would be a ButterBee??

    oh and Bill nice clutch!!
  • 06-25-2008, 11:47 PM
    starmom
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Your Sputter Ball is..... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...adgrl/thud.gif Drop Dead Gorgeous :eyepoppin
    :bow: Congratulations!!!! http://www.iheartpaws.com/forums/ima...Bananejump.gif
  • 06-25-2008, 11:48 PM
    4theSNAKElady
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    OMG....stop the presses. That one in the middle.....is that the keeper?!!!! It's ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS. You MUST post more pics of just that one. LOVE it!!!! And Dr. Del, don't flatter yourself.....:P
  • 06-26-2008, 12:00 AM
    NextWorldExotics
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Big congrats! Glad to see that Butter is doing great for you! Still one of the nicest i have seen!
    Jon
  • 06-26-2008, 12:03 AM
    Seneschal
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    O: Wow!!! What an amazing clutch...


    I dunno about any of you, but I'm REALLY digging that spider on the upper right...
  • 06-26-2008, 12:18 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Holy hell....all boys!!!!!! That is excellent!!
  • 06-26-2008, 12:50 AM
    Rapture
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    I'm gonna take a wild guess at which one you are keeping... ;)
  • 06-26-2008, 01:04 AM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rapture View Post
    I'm gonna take a wild guess at which one you are keeping... ;)

    You would be correct -- if you guessed the pigmentally(not sure that is spelled right or even a word) challenged one in the center!!!
  • 06-26-2008, 01:15 AM
    MarkS
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Wow, who cares what you call it... That thing is amazing. I want one now.
  • 06-26-2008, 01:28 AM
    McAdry
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    amazing snake congrats.
  • 06-26-2008, 01:46 AM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Congrats!

    Kim Bell calls them Sputter Balls and NERD calls them Butter Bees...
  • 06-26-2008, 02:18 AM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict View Post
    Congrats!

    Kim Bell calls them Sputter Balls and NERD calls them Butter Bees...

    Thanks Jon. I knew I had heard both. What would Pastel Butter Spider be called? Lesser version is Queen. Butter is ...
  • 06-26-2008, 07:45 AM
    josh@outbackreps
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Bill I am worried about that one in the middle he doesn't look like he's feeling too well, looks really pale.....

    Better send him over here and I will keep an eye on him for you......

    VERY NICE!!

    Glad you went for the sputters, one of my favorite morphs!!
  • 06-26-2008, 07:46 AM
    nelson77321
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bill Buchman View Post
    Thanks Jon. I knew I had heard both. What would Pastel Butter Spider be called? Lesser version is Queen. Butter is ...

    i dont think its been done yet, but i doubt it is too far away, and whoever makes it first will call it what they like i suppose lol

    im sure it will be amazing.
  • 06-26-2008, 03:28 PM
    Nick
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    are u selling them?
  • 06-26-2008, 03:44 PM
    TanyaL
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bill Buchman View Post
    ...The other pretty boys will be moving on to a good home

    I've got a good home! :D That one in the middle is beautiful, and the others are not far behind.

    Do they tend to change colors a lot from hatchlings to juvis? Or, do they pretty much stay the same as they mature? I'm referring to BP in general...just curious.

    Congrats and keep the pics coming.
  • 06-26-2008, 10:10 PM
    TMurphy
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Awesome clutch!!
    Congrats on the Butter Spider......:gj:
  • 06-26-2008, 10:16 PM
    juddb
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Wow what an excellent clutch!:gj: That is a keeper breeder male you have. Congrats on that clutch for sure.:salute:
  • 06-26-2008, 11:50 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TanyaL View Post
    I've got a good home! :D That one in the middle is beautiful, and the others are not far behind.

    Do they tend to change colors a lot from hatchlings to juvis? Or, do they pretty much stay the same as they mature? I'm referring to BP in general...just curious.

    Congrats and keep the pics coming.

    Tanya -- Thanks for the kind words. Most ball pythons look best right after their first shed. A few get better with age. Lavender Albinos, Fires, some Ghosts, Butters and Lessers to name a few. How much a Ball "dulls out" depends on any number of factors. I am going to bet that my Butter Bee will look pretty good as an adult!
  • 06-27-2008, 12:50 AM
    4theSNAKElady
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Umm, come on Bill, let's make with the individual "centerfold" pics already!!!! Gosh!
  • 06-27-2008, 04:06 AM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 4theSNAKElady View Post
    Umm, come on Bill, let's make with the individual "centerfold" pics already!!!! Gosh!

    I'm afraid we will have to wait for "Mr. July's" new skin before we see him. I am interested in what he will look like in blue. I will take some pics if they are interesting.
  • 06-27-2008, 11:17 AM
    pedipalps
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    All males! Whatever all are stunning and beautiful.

    Congrats!
  • 06-27-2008, 02:17 PM
    ForkedTung
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    sweetness...MORE PICS PLEASE!!!
  • 06-27-2008, 02:35 PM
    DWolfeHerp
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    We all must deal with whatever the odds gods decide to dish out. For me that usually involves one of two very different scenarios: jubilation, stupid grins, phone calls, photos, maybe a forum posting, etc. - or just some quite time spent with my friend Johnny Walker.

    Congrats Bill on a beautiful bunch of boys!!

    Dan
  • 06-27-2008, 11:56 PM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DWolfeHerp View Post
    We all must deal with whatever the odds gods decide to dish out. For me that usually involves one of two very different scenarios: jubilation, stupid grins, phone calls, photos, maybe a forum posting, etc. - or just some quite time spent with my friend Johnny Walker.

    Congrats Bill on a beautiful bunch of boys!!

    Dan

    It really does seem if one looks at clutches in isolation that some guy up in "Olympus" is deciding who gets what and when.

    In an effort to steer clear of the Johnny Walker and preserve my sanity, I have made a pact with myself that at season's end I will look at my birthing record "on paper". I supspect/trust that genetics will win out and when the numbers are tallied the boys/girls -- morphs/normal/combos will all be what they should. But, if those Ball Gods rake me over the coals and give me ANY less than I'm due I will just have only one thing to say to them ---- JUST YOU WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR!!!!...
  • 07-03-2008, 08:41 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    That sputter is sweet :O :gj:
  • 07-03-2008, 09:15 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    WOW!!! Gorgeous snakes! I can't believe they all came out boys!
  • 07-03-2008, 09:21 PM
    TheMolenater2
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    :O
    Those are stunning! :gj:
  • 07-04-2008, 07:50 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: Great Odds/Bad Odds -- I'LL TAKE IT!!!!
    Id take that butter bee male over a BB female anyday!:gj:
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