They don't all go as planned

There are many great web sites out that offer advice on how to breed Ball Pythons, 8Ball, Markus Janus, RDR. But the one thing I have learned this year is that they don't all go as planned or as many breeders like to show. Now this is not to say that most animals don't follow the pattern but some don't. I had both of the girls I bred this year be a fantastic learning experience and I wanted to share my very limited experience so that it might help someone else down the road or just give the full time breeders a laugh.

My first clutch this year was produced from a normal to a Pastel breeding. my first lock with this pair was in Jan. she only locked 5 -6 times then OVY! and laid right on time. But she was a quick girl her eggs just hatched Saturday so its been 6 months for first lock to babys.

Now the other girl..:rage: she locked in Dec- Jan. She has locked every time with my spider male..:(:(:(...

She would bowl wrap
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And lock
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And bowl wrap
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And lock
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For months it went like this.

Well a few weeks ago she started the glow.
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Then the build
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And then she really got to glowing.
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And even a NEON GLOW
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And then some more locking
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And at long last OVY!!!!!!! :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
It started small.
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And grew.
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And GREW!
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and GREW
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Till she was GINORMUS!!!
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So from Dec till this Saturday it took 25 locks and 7 months to get this girl to go..Any one thinks this crap is easy needs a reality check..

Now lets see some spiders.

Lol, Congrats Ed!

She's gonna blow!!!! *ducks!*


Congrats Ed! I would have thought this year just wasn't her year, but golly you have the patience of a monk! :bow:

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

you have the patience of a monk! :bow:

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Shhhh My secret.. Whisky!

Yowza!!! She's HUGE!! I bet she lays a nice big healthy clutch. It will be worth the wait for sur.e

At least after 7 months you get something. All I get since the first lock in October or November till now is craps...for every 2 to 4 weeks lol

Congratz btw :gj:

Those website give great info but the best info comes from the snakes. They go when they are ready, not necessarily when you are. I have animals still locking up. I think Tracy Barker summed it all up when she said listen to your snakes. It could be July and they may go off feed and tell you they are ready. You just gotta know how to listen and have a boyfriend waiting.

Great job Ed, hope you see lots of spider girls:gj:

She looks HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shes gunna burst man..

lol.. great post!! sure was a good reality check, how annoying that must be to go through all that! good luck, heres to hoping you get lots of nice spiders!

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Originally Posted by blueapplepaste

Yowza!!! She's HUGE!! I bet she lays a nice big healthy clutch. It will be worth the wait for sur.e

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Lets hope so. So far I've gotten my butt kicked

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Originally Posted by hgrub

At least after 7 months you get something. All I get since the first lock in October or November till now is craps...for every 2 to 4 weeks lol

Congratz btw :gj:

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Well I was starting to wonder.. LOL But we shall see

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

Those website give great info but the best info comes from the snakes. They go when they are ready, not necessarily when you are. I have animals still locking up. I think Tracy Barker summed it all up when she said listen to your snakes. It could be July and they may go off feed and tell you they are ready. You just gotta know how to listen and have a boyfriend waiting.

Great job Ed, hope you see lots of spider girls:gj:

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You know I'm starting to figure out that my snakes can read them websites so their not cooperating

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Originally Posted by JasonG

She looks HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shes gunna burst man..

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She was so big you could see skin in between the scales before it was all done.

Exactly how many pre-lay sheds did this girl have for you, Ed? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Exactly how many pre-lay sheds did this girl have for you, Ed? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Ain't it fun Frog man...LOL...:gj:

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

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What's that? I didn't hear you! ;)

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Originally Posted by BT41042

Ain't it fun Frog man...LOL...:gj:

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Oh yea it a freaking party.. LOL :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Originally Posted by rabernet

What's that? I didn't hear you! ;)

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Ok so she would build and then like two weeks later shed.. So shes had like 4 POS...:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Irritating snake..

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Lets hope so. So far I've gotten my butt kicked

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<--------Sends good vibes your way.

Hopefully this'll turn out well for you. I've had a rough season as well (corn wise that is, bps are doing great), so can relate. Good luck, can't wait to see pics of the eggs1

Great Pictorial :gj::gj::gj:
Keeping my fingers crossed for many spiders to come your way :D

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

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Ed the Prey-lay shed master :bow: :8:

Hope you get a lot of little spiders to make up for all that waiting!

Great post Ed, i hope its worth the wait for ya!!!!:)

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Any one thinks this crap is easy needs a reality check..

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How right you are... not a get rich quick scheme. It really can be a challenge to do it right.. but oh so fun for those in it for the love the animals.

I'm seeing lots of spiders in your future.

Justin

When's her lay date Ed? I can't wait to see how many she lays!

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Originally Posted by frankykeno

When's her lay date Ed? I can't wait to see how many she lays!

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She has to have her 5th pre-lay shed first Jo, don't you Ohian's know anything? :P

Wow her OVY was HUGE. Congrats!! Can't wait the see the little spiders...

Haha, okay -

I know that this was Slightly? irritating to you...

but I couldnt help but LMAO when I read your post.

Sorry lol. I think it was the whole illustration thing - pictures are worth a thousand...laughs?

I hope you get like 12 spiders :spid0r::spid0r::spid0r::spid0r::spid0r::spid0r::spid0r::spid0r::spid0r::spid0r: :spid0r: :spid0r:

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Ed the Prey-lay shed master :bow: :8:

Hope you get a lot of little spiders to make up for all that waiting!

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AAHHAAA you so funny.. :tears::tears::tears:

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Originally Posted by Broseph

Great post Ed, i hope its worth the wait for ya!!!!:)

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I'm sure it will be I've already gotten superstitious

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Originally Posted by jkobylka

How right you are... not a get rich quick scheme. It really can be a challenge to do it right.. but oh so fun for those in it for the love the animals.

I'm seeing lots of spiders in your future.

Justin

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Justin this is the side of it that I think most new people get discouraged with. I mean 7 months of breeding for an OVY! would kill most people and even I was starting to get my feathers ruffled

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Originally Posted by frankykeno

When's her lay date Ed? I can't wait to see how many she lays!

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She is going to lay sometime around the 2nd week in AUG. Talk about cutting it close. :D

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Originally Posted by rabernet

She has to have her 5th pre-lay shed first Jo, don't you Ohian's know anything? :P

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:rofl::rofl::rofl: Yea I think she was just holding her breath to trick me. :D :rofl::rofl:

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

Wow her OVY was HUGE. Congrats!! Can't wait the see the little spiders...

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Me either I need a rack full of them

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Originally Posted by adizziedoll

Haha, okay -

I know that this was Slightly? irritating to you...

but I couldnt help but LMAO when I read your post.

Sorry lol. I think it was the whole illustration thing - pictures are worth a thousand...laughs?

I hope you get like 12 spiders :spid0r::spid0r::spid0r::spid0r::spid0r::spid0r::spid0r::spid0r::spid0r::spid0r: :spid0r: :spid0r:

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Hey no big deal if you can't laugh at it its not worth reading..

Cheers.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Exactly how many pre-lay sheds did this girl have for you, Ed? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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:rofl: I can relate. I seem to be on pre-lay shed 2 now for two snakes....

I have a girl thats been having pre lay sheds since April 07.
Needless to say I'm still waiting and she is still locking up.
I think someone slipped her the pill:mad:

Great post!! :rofl: Glad she came though for you!:gj:

Thanks now this battle is half over..

Congratz! Hope u get a huge cluth (and u will judging by the monstruous OVY)

holy crapola... you are a very determined individual LOL CONGRATS on the ovy FINALLY wooooohoo!

i cannot WAIT to see this clutch!!!

:) i hope you get oodles of spider babies :)

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Originally Posted by ViciousBliss

holy crapola... you are a very determined individual LOL CONGRATS on the ovy FINALLY wooooohoo!

i cannot WAIT to see this clutch!!!

:) i hope you get oodles of spider babies :)

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YOU ONLY FAIL WHEN YOU GIVE UP..


Thanks it looks like I need all the luck I can get. :D

Thanks so much! looks like im just overthinking things and need to let nature do its thing. It looks like I got a ways to go bc she has definitely not gotten THAT big (ovy) ever. Thanks again.

LOL good post...nice to see progression pics

best of luck with those spiders!:)

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Originally Posted by OhBalls

LOL good post...nice to see progression pics

best of luck with those spiders!:)

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Well I don't know if I posted an update but I did get 11 eggs 8 spiders 4.4 and I only have a few left. :D

Memories.....light the color of my lifeeeeeee! Misty water colored meeeeeemories!!!!!!!

:D

i wasn't a member of the site when this was 1st posted. i really like the story!! it was a good learning tool for me.

Very cool man thank you alot for posting this, gives all us first timers some things to think about. You rock

Yeah I missed this when it was first posted...she was seriously trying to make herself into a snake balloon...