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Feeding size!

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  • 06-21-2008, 01:29 AM
    thedigi1
    Feeding size!
    Hey guys

    I have a quick one, when do you guys know when to up your snakes meal? I wanna go from adult mouse to baby rat I guess if there is a such thing. My ball weighs 165 grams maybe more so I was wondering what you guys suggest.

    Thanks :)
  • 06-21-2008, 02:11 AM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: Feeding size!
    An adult mouse and a rat pup are the same size. Can you consistently get rat pups in your area every week? One medium adult mouse or a fuzzy rat would be fine for your snake(something around 15-20g).
  • 06-21-2008, 02:53 PM
    thedigi1
    Re: Feeding size!
    Well I did it! I went and got him a rat pup and I didn't think he was gonna be able to put it away and with a little time he had that rat in him!

    I am a little worried though!

    When I thawed out the rat I thought I did a good job it read like 110 degrees!
    When i fed it to my snake it quickly dropped to 82 and felt kinda cold to the touch still. This has never happened to me. Should I worry about it harming my guy?
    I know next time I will keep it longer on a thaw cycle.
    So please relax my worried mind and let me know that everything will be alright!!:confused:
  • 06-21-2008, 02:56 PM
    starmom
    Re: Feeding size!
    What thaw cycle? :confused:
    I defrost my rats by the snake racks and cages all day long and then zap them on the head and belly with a blow dryer for about a minute.
    You always want to feel a nice and smooshy-thawed rat tummy and abdomen area...
  • 06-21-2008, 03:01 PM
    thedigi1
    Re: Feeding size!
    well that is what I call it. I was told when I got my snake that all I had to do was use hot water for like 10 minutes (not boiling) and he should be nice and thawed. In the past for adult mice this was no problem but for this rat pup it seemed to have stayed cold and that was weird. neways is that bad for my snake? I didn't mean to give it a cold rat I mean it wasn't frozen but it was cold it read 82 degrees all over its body while my guy was taking it in.
  • 06-21-2008, 03:27 PM
    stangs13
    Re: Feeding size!
    I thaw mine in hot water till there soft and squishy in the middle, and there heads are warm-ish. Works for me.I also feed bigger prey when they beg for more!
  • 06-21-2008, 03:42 PM
    starmom
    Re: Feeding size!
    A partially thawed rat COULD lead to regurg.
    I have found that the best way to thaw is slowly and throughout the day.... Never had an exploding rodent or one that was cold.... Works well for pre-scenting also!!
    Woops, you have a wee one so thawing won't take all day!!!!!
  • 06-21-2008, 04:13 PM
    thedigi1
    Re: Feeding size!
    Well how will I know if he regurgitates his rat? Will this be like right away or will it take days for him to regurg?
  • 06-21-2008, 04:16 PM
    starmom
    Re: Feeding size!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thedigi1 View Post
    Well how will I know if he regurgitates his rat? Will this be like right away or will it take days for him to regurg?

    It'll be in the day or two after feeding usually. And how will you know?? I'm told the stench will drive you from the room :O
  • 06-21-2008, 04:22 PM
    thedigi1
    Re: Feeding size!
    wow that sucks!
  • 06-21-2008, 04:27 PM
    thedigi1
    Re: Feeding size!
    Well it wasn't frozen it was just cold after I have thawed him out he was like 82 degrees!
  • 06-21-2008, 04:28 PM
    starmom
    Re: Feeding size!
    Put your temps to 94 and maybe that will help...
  • 06-21-2008, 04:30 PM
    thedigi1
    Re: Feeding size!
    one step ahead of you i cranked the heat up and hoping that will keep his belly warm
  • 06-21-2008, 04:31 PM
    starmom
    Re: Feeding size!
    Good job! :gj:
  • 06-21-2008, 04:33 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Feeding size!
    Quote:

    A partially thawed rat COULD lead to regurg.
    Or worse.

    It is VERY important when feeding F/T to thaw the prey item properly!
  • 06-21-2008, 04:36 PM
    thedigi1
    Re: Feeding size!
    what is worse? now i'm worried what can happen?
  • 06-21-2008, 04:38 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Feeding size!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thedigi1 View Post
    what is worse? now i'm worried what can happen?

    Not meant to worry you, he will probably be ok however make sure to thaw the prey properly in the future!

    Feeding a partially frozen prey can lead to death!
  • 06-21-2008, 04:39 PM
    thedigi1
    Re: Feeding size!
    :(
    holy crap!!!!

    damn what do I do? now Im really really worried
  • 06-21-2008, 04:41 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Feeding size!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thedigi1 View Post
    :(
    holy crap!!!!

    damn what do I do? now Im really really worried

    Like I said he will probably be fine but now you know that when feeding F/T it is VERY important to thaw the prey properly.
  • 06-21-2008, 04:49 PM
    thedigi1
    Re: Feeding size!
    i know now thanks:(
  • 06-21-2008, 04:56 PM
    starmom
    Re: Feeding size!
    Yeah, I didn't really want to go there Deb until he/she was over this part....and then post the giant danger of a repeat error like this :( Maybe I wrong to withhold that....
  • 06-22-2008, 12:24 AM
    PhillyBoyInTN
    Re: Feeding size!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starmom View Post
    I defrost my rats by the snake racks and cages all day long and then zap them on the head and belly with a blow dryer for about a minute.

    Thats exactly how I do it... and the blow dryer blows the rat smell around and gets your snakes very ready to eat :gj:
  • 06-22-2008, 12:58 AM
    ptate
    Re: Feeding size!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starmom View Post
    It'll be in the day or two after feeding usually. And how will you know?? I'm told the stench will drive you from the room :O

    The smell is horrible, especially if you don't find it for a day or two after the rodent was regurgitated. It is one of those smells that you will never forget.
  • 06-22-2008, 01:03 AM
    Argentra
    Re: Feeding size!
    I agree with that! One of my corn girls is notorious for regurging anything she feels is 'too big'...problem is, it's hard to tell just how big 'too big' is! Just the other day, I found the...back end only regurged 4 days after feeding! Now she's on the 10 day rest and already looking around for food. Sigh. But that smell is unmistakable!
  • 06-22-2008, 11:01 AM
    Mochelem
    Re: Feeding size!
    I like to feed multiple mice to my snakes that still seems hungry. I have some very aggresive feeders and they have no problem downing 2-3 mice....
  • 06-22-2008, 11:14 AM
    thedigi1
    Re: Feeding size!
    Well I don't know if what I fed was too much :(
    I do know cause I have his heat on high he moves around even in the day. He is always been a good eater even while in shed. This is my first time giving him a rat pup. But he has been on adult mice for a while so I figured it would be okay to go a tad larger.

    I was looking at him this morning and he seems okay other than moving around cause it might be to warm in his hide.

    I will pick him up tomorrow and see how he reacts to that
  • 06-22-2008, 11:33 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Feeding size!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thedigi1 View Post
    Well I don't know if what I fed was too much :(
    I do know cause I have his heat on high he moves around even in the day. He is always been a good eater even while in shed. This is my first time giving him a rat pup. But he has been on adult mice for a while so I figured it would be okay to go a tad larger.

    I was looking at him this morning and he seems okay other than moving around cause it might be to warm in his hide.

    I will pick him up tomorrow and see how he reacts to that

    Are you using a digital thermometer or temp gun to measure your temps?

    What are your temps?
  • 06-22-2008, 05:53 PM
    thedigi1
    Re: Feeding size!
    his temps are 88 and 65 on humidity
  • 06-25-2008, 08:26 PM
    thedigi1
    Re: Feeding size!
    hi everyone,
    I just wanted to say thanks to all those that replied to my thread.

    I have put up a video so those of you that know what size my guy should be eating can tell me if I am feeding him to large..

    www.youtube.com/thedigi1
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