snow X normal stripe?

my sister and her hubby are breeding corns. They have an accidental clutch from their normal stripe female (who up until she started laying eggs, they thought was male, oops!) who was temporarily housed with a snow male. We don't know if they are het for anything, but is there a way to sort of guess what the babies could look like? I guess we could wait until they hatch, but what's the fun in that?

normals, snows, normal stripes, and snow stripes

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Originally Posted by python.princess

normals, snows, normal stripes, and snow stripes

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Unless, they're het for a common gene, it will be normals het amel, anery, and stripe.

They'll all look normal unless the normal stripe is het for something. which with corns is actually pretty likely. I wouldn't be surprised if you got some amels or anerythristics out of the clutch.

i've got my fingers crossed for anery... they weren't really planning on breeding this pair, they don't really want normals, they prefer amel varieties (i'm not sure if thats the right term, but they like the ones with no black). And the snow male has some fertility issues, so we aren't even sure this clutch is viable, although the eggs look good so far.

none of those eggs were any good... we think there were fertility issues with the male used in the pairing. They are double clutching her, this time with a creamsicle male. We don't really care for creamsicles, but hopefully won't get any from this pairing, unless the female is het for amel, right?

Creamsicles are not pure corns. They are a hybrid with some other species of ratsnake.

Any offspring that you get from this pairing should be labeled as hybrids. It would be dishonest to sell them as pure corns.

yeah, we know that, and they all will be labeled and sold as such.
My sister didn't want to "overbreed" her green snow, he's been bred three times this year, so she paired the normal with the creamsicle so he could get a bit of action. Last year's "sunsicles" didn't sell very well, I'm hoping that there is a better turn out... They will be labelled as hybrids, but hopefully they won't show any of the creamsicle coloring...

Hmm. I know very little about breeding corns, but my first guess would be that breeding 3 or 4 times isn't even close to "overbreeding" for a male. Unless he is young or small or something.

Anyone more knowledgeable on the subject want to comment on that?

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Originally Posted by kc261

Hmm. I know very little about breeding corns, but my first guess would be that breeding 3 or 4 times isn't even close to "overbreeding" for a male. Unless he is young or small or something.

Anyone more knowledgeable on the subject want to comment on that?

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I know that... my sister was just being silly. I told her he's a guy, he won't care if he gets a bit more action this year.

she's got two clutches in the incubator from sunglow females and the green snow. The green snow male was re-paired with one of the sunglows, the other sunglow has been paired with a sunglow motley male. And the normal stripe female was paired with the creamsicle male. So if anything, they should have a decent variety this year...

Creamsicles x normal would be hybrids and are called rootbeers. So youd have rootbeers het amel (creamsicle).

that's good to know. I like root beer, lol!

I have another question about genetics... My sister bought the green snow male and one of her sunglow females together. They were bred last year, and my sister was told they produced some normals, some sunglows, some amels, and some snows. I've been doing a bit of research on genetics, and don't see how this was possible... Sunglows are just selectively bred amels, so I can see that there could be some with more white than others, but normals?
Snow is amel X anery, right? So wouldn't the combination of snow X amel just produce snows and amels? They are both recessive genes, aren't they? So there shouldn't be any normals in the bunch, unless I'm way off...

Snow x amel would give amel 100% anery. You need two copies of the mutant anery gene, so each parent has to have at least one to give. If the amel was het anery, then you'd get snows and amels, but only if the amel is het.

As for sunglow x snow giving normals, that's next to impossible, unless it was an incompatible form of amel, which there's only one in corns. So either it wasn't really a sunglow x snow or whoever said that is just making things up.

oh, i get it now... i was thinking mm and mn (m being amel, and n being anery - i make things up). but its mmmm and mmnn. er, right? so the babies would all be mmmn... if my silly notations make sense to anyone else, that is...

I'm not so good at this genetics thing, although I'm the only one in the family who really cares...

I'm trying to convince my sister to get a few new corns, a caramel and a charcoal. Either that, or get them for myself, and breed them to my sister's when they get old enough... caramel X amel = butter, and charcoal X amel = blizzard, right? Or am I oversimplifying again?