What Pied combo morphs have been produced?

like the title says "what Pied combo morphs have been produced?"

so far i have

Albino x Pied
Cinnamon x Pied(not sure on this one)
Lavender Albino x Pied (Dreamsicle)
Pastel x Pied

Thanks

VeeDubZ

pastel pied
spider pied (spied)
lav albino pied
black pastel pied
pastel super stripe pied
lesser platty pied
albino pied

just a few i can think off, of course the lesser turns the pied totally white, and the spied only has a spider head pattern.

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Originally Posted by nelson77321

pastel pied
spider pied (spied)
lav albino pied
black pastel pied
pastel super stripe pied
lesser platty pied
albino pied

just a few i can think off, of course the lesser turns the pied totally white, and the spied only has a spider head pattern.

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All that plus a bee pied

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

All that plus a bee pied

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i didnt realise there was a bee pied, would like to see that

EDIT; just seen one, doesnt look too much different to a spied.

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Originally Posted by nelson77321

i didnt realise there was a bee pied, would like to see that

EDIT; just seen one, doesnt look too much different to a spied.

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Pete Kahl did this one.
http://www.cbballpythons.com/images/282.JPG

More Bee Pieds
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...n/DSC_0004.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...n/DSC_0005.jpg

and the spied by Vin Russo.
http://www.cbballpythons.com/images/286.JPG

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Pete Kahl did this one.
http://www.cbballpythons.com/images/282.JPG

and the spied by Vin Russo.
http://www.cbballpythons.com/images/286.JPG

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there the pics i just looked at lol! there would be nice to have in my collection, but they are not good looking snakes imo, i prefer more pattern than white.

Is it just me or is it only the heads with the spider markings when its a bpied ??? because ive seen other ones and its only there heads with markings i love it :gj::gj:

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Pete Kahl did this one.
http://www.cbballpythons.com/images/282.JPG

More Bee Pieds
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...n/DSC_0004.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...n/DSC_0005.jpg

and the spied by Vin Russo.
http://www.cbballpythons.com/images/286.JPG

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I wonder why these pied combos are always high white? These would look so much cooler if the pattern was dispersed more (at least in my opinion).

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Originally Posted by nelson77321

pastel pied
spider pied (spied)
lav albino pied
black pastel pied
pastel super stripe pied
lesser platty pied
albino pied

just a few i can think off, of course the lesser turns the pied totally white, and the spied only has a spider head pattern.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

All that plus a bee pied

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thanks guys

was i right about the cinnamon pied or is it just black pastel pied?

I have a theory about that head only pattern. See spiders exhibit a form of Leucism on their sides in the way of the white speckling. Pied is a known form of the leucisitic gene. When you combine the two forms of the Lucy gene the pied and spider work to create an almost pure white snake. Now only the head has color and I think its because the form of Leucism they exhibit is an incomplete form. when you combine the Lesser gene which is a Het Lucy at its core because the lesser creates a totally white snake the two forms of Leucism work to produce a totally white snake. Hope I didn't loose any one there.

No that helps alot, thankx buddie :gj::gj::gj::D

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I have a theory about that head only pattern. See spiders exhibit a form of Leucism on their sides in the way of the white speckling. Pied is a known form of the leucisitic gene. When you combine the two forms of the Lucy gene the pied and spider work to create an almost pure white snake. Now only the head has color and I think its because the form of Leucism they exhibit is an incomplete form. when you combine the Lesser gene which is a Het Lucy at its core because the lesser creates a totally white snake the two forms of Leucism work to produce a totally white snake. Hope I didn't loose any one there.

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wow, never even thought of it like that, pretty friggin smart there Mr. Frog

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I have a theory about that head only pattern. See spiders exhibit a form of Leucism on their sides in the way of the white speckling. Pied is a known form of the leucisitic gene. When you combine the two forms of the Lucy gene the pied and spider work to create an almost pure white snake. Now only the head has color and I think its because the form of Leucism they exhibit is an incomplete form. when you combine the Lesser gene which is a Het Lucy at its core because the lesser creates a totally white snake the two forms of Leucism work to produce a totally white snake. Hope I didn't loose any one there.

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cool infooo =]
i love the pied gene, so its neat to get more info/theories about it =]

Any xanthic pieds?

i wonder what a calico pied would look like...

I do have to say though, I was disappointed by the spied and the bumblepied. :rolleyes: Kind of disappointing, no cool pied coloring and spider patterning on the body.

I look forward to the caramel pied, the coral pied, and the purple passion pied---though I have a nasty feeling that the purple passion pied is going to be another all-white dud.

Just wait for the 'cow-pied.' ;) :shh:

I think the all white is really cool looking, but thats just me :D:D

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Originally Posted by ChicaPiton519

i wonder what a calico pied would look like...

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pretty much the same as the spied i think tbh.

The spied lacks the white lips of the bumblebee-pied...?

I like the white lips and the softer colored head of the BB-pied. Really sharp looking snakes.

Bruce

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I have a theory about that head only pattern. See spiders exhibit a form of Leucism on their sides in the way of the white speckling. Pied is a known form of the leucisitic gene. When you combine the two forms of the Lucy gene the pied and spider work to create an almost pure white snake. Now only the head has color and I think its because the form of Leucism they exhibit is an incomplete form. when you combine the Lesser gene which is a Het Lucy at its core because the lesser creates a totally white snake the two forms of Leucism work to produce a totally white snake. Hope I didn't loose any one there.

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That is probably more technically correct than my half-baked theory. Thanks for sharing.

What I had thought about (but not really convinced myself of) is that since both spider and pied are pattern morphs, it was possible that they were in some way interfering with each other. Which doesn't really explain why they end up almost entirely white, but since pieds already have some wierdness going on to cause the white spots... more wierdness of the patterns fighting with each other creates more white?

OK, I know it is weak. I said it was half-baked. :)

http://newenglandreptile.com/forumpics/hmmm1.jpg

http://newenglandreptile.com/forumpics/hmmm2.jpg



champagne pied???

the world will never know

HOLY CRAAAAAP! that thing is nice, if that is 100% a champagne pied, then that was quick, i exspected the reccessive crosses with the champagne to be a good year or so away!

I'd like to see everything pied, Somebody mentioned Pete possibly producing a hypo pied this year. Caramel pied axanthic pied would be cool. Oh and it wasn't a cinny it was a black pastel.

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

I wonder why these pied combos are always high white? These would look so much cooler if the pattern was dispersed more (at least in my opinion).

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Yeah, I like to see the pattern over more of the body.

WOW Nerd does it again, haha they really do amazing work.

Sure looks like there are a lot of combinations still out there for the Pied owner.

any more??

Ghost Pied by Pete Kahl and Pastel Ghost Pied .

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Originally Posted by TheMolenater2

Ghost Pied by Pete Kahl and Pastel Ghost Pied .

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thanks

Lesser Pied (Ralph Davis Reptiles)

I want to see: Super Cinny Pied, Clown Pied

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Originally Posted by lovepig78

http://newenglandreptile.com/forumpics/hmmm1.jpg

http://newenglandreptile.com/forumpics/hmmm2.jpg



champagne pied???

the world will never know

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If im not mistaken that is a black eyed lucy....paridox!! I think I read somewhere about it....and I dont think Champagnes have black eyes? I could be totally wrong...lol