Vision cage for BP...

Is the vision Model #221 (dimensions 28" wide - 22" deep - 12" high) good for the rest of a male bp's life? To live comfortably that is..? Thanks.

Just my opinion and what I use: http://www.reptilebasics.com/2x3-Cag...h-p-16286.html

Yes, that would be fine for a male.

Guess it would depend on how big your male gets. Most males are small but I 've seen some large ones too.

I have 5 of that model vision cage my 3000 gram girls are just fine in them.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...ERO1/033-2.jpg

sounds like I'll probably go ahead and get one...is a rheostat/thermostat really needed to monitor if you opt for the heat?

and just newspaper as substrate?

Go with a thermostat not a rheostat. Ranco and Johnson are good yet affordable. I have 3 Vision cages and they are great. I only use them for quarrantines now because I have several rack systems. I roll up some newspaper over and under where the door is so they dont wedge themselves in that grove and then you cant get them out when you want to. I use newsaper for a substrate and it works fine. If you have a hard time getting the humidity up I tape up the metal grid/air vent(from the outside) until it holds in enough moisture

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

Go with a thermostat not a rheostat. Ranco and Johnson are good yet affordable. I have 3 Vision cages and they are great. I only use them for quarrantines now because I have several rack systems. I roll up some newspaper over and under where the door is so they dont wedge themselves in that grove and then you cant get them out when you want to. I use newsaper for a substrate and it works fine. If you have a hard time getting the humidity up I tape up the metal grid/air vent(from the outside) until it holds in enough moisture

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I think I still have a Zilla thermostat or something...why not a rheo?

im just not a huge fan of thermostats because the propes can come off...

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Originally Posted by pilot511

I think I still have a Zilla thermostat or something...why not a rheo?

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Rheo's are not exact, they will fluctuate as the room temps change. temps are the most impostant thing in keeping a healthy BP. One sick snake will cost more than any reliable themostat in vet bills and medications, not to mention over a month of injections for a RI. Dont skimp on temp control, trust me, been there done that, never again.

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Originally Posted by pilot511

im just not a huge fan of thermostats because the propes can come off...

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Detachable probes depends on the thermostat you get. The herpstat thermostats made by spyderobtics will beep at you if a probe has come loose...or if it isn't reading the signal correctly.

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Originally Posted by Schlyne

Detachable probes depends on the thermostat you get. The herpstat thermostats made by spyderobtics will beep at you if a probe has come loose...or if it isn't reading the signal correctly.

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how much do those usually go for?

http://www.spyderrobotics.com for the Herpstat :gj:
I also have Helix brand and the probes have never once come off; you use foil tape to adhere them to the heat source.