Combo Morph Limitations?

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Originally Posted by FIREball

So you must not like Justins Pastel Pied than
http://www.jkobylkareptiles.com/Imag...lpied_high.jpg

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The picture of the snake you linked looks interesting, but in my opinion, is sloppy.

I guess I am just a fan of the first Piedball. IMHO Both the stripe piedball and the one you linked above are examples of why I believe combo morphs will have limitations. Once the patern gets too complicated.... too busy.... too sloppy... they go from being a "positive different" to a "negative freekish". Know what I mean?

Please share what you think.

Maybe too/busy/complicated/sloppy for some...others like busy & complicated, as well as simple-yet-refined.

That's one of the fantastic things about ball python morphs & combos - there truly is something for everyone! I may not like some as much as others, but I'm certainly not going to be the one trying to define "limitations" when it's all actually a matter of personal preference. :rolleyes:

Morphs are as variable as ball python enthusiasts' opinions on them!

;)

K~

Please, just let me say before anyone even has a chance to reply.... I am not trying to tell anyone what is wrong and what is right. I am not trying to say that any snake is ugly because I say so... I am not trying to say anything bad about any one... or their snakes.

LOL... now that I am done with the disclaimer... I am interested in hearing others opinions.

Dang it kara! you are too fast!

I like the cleaner looks myself

I found it to be a little busy at first glance but the more that I look at it the more I like it. Any new morph combo will appeal to someone but not everyone. The same is true for common morphs.

Acceptance and rejoicing for diversity is what turns individualism into communities. Same with ball python morphs. :gj:
When one puts limiters on things...well....it's not correct in this case.

Limitations in that some ppl that like different BPs won't like those as much. However, there's still going to be people that go crazy for those snakes. I don't like other snakes as much as I like BPs and Bloods; however, I know there's a big market for cornsnakes and what not.

Same with dogs. I'm really into pit bulls, and these new American Bully's that have come from RE lines, Gotti lines, watchdog etc etc have really ruffled the feathers of pit bull breeders and keepers. However, there is a HUGE market for it, and a lot of ppl really enjoy those dogs..

If people want the animals, and are really into them they will be produced and people will own them. So the limitations vary from person to person, but not animal to animal I think.

Personally.......I like that one. It's just so different.:D
To me the morphs or combos that have the most appeal are the ones that don't look like your regular BP.

they all turn white eventually. Look how many morphs we have, that when bred together get you white snakes..............


In a few years, there are going to be so many combo morphs, that they are all going to make white snakes!!!!


HA!!!!!!

I don't like pieds! There I said it! Now them pied combos are smokin!:banana:

For me it depends on the morph as to whether or not I like a busy pattern or not. So it can vary from a really reduced Clown to a very patterned Pin.

To me its all about the individual snake. If there is a morph I don't like its because I haven't seen the "one" yet.

As for Justin pied; I think its nasty, and in a good way :)

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

As for Justin pied; I think its nasty, and in a good way :)

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I'll pass that along to him... :cool: He nearly looks like a different snake now...


There's lots of combos that I don't think are as cool as others. Like stangs illustrated above, some people don't like pieds in general! Seems crazy to me, but that's the beauty of it. There's a morph out there for everyone.

At this point I'm so infatuated with ball pythons its hard to show me a bp I don't like... :) I swoon over normals sometimes! :gj::gj:

Justin

My opinion is that it is a great looking Pastel Pied. I don't think that animal can really be compared to a Pied, since the addition of Pastel seems to affect the pattern on ever Pastel Pied I have seen. It's like the age old cliche of comparing apples to oranges.

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Originally Posted by jkobylka

I'll pass that along to him... :cool: He nearly looks like a different snake now...
Justin

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Well how about an updated pic then? :D

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

Well how about an updated pic then? :D

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I sent you pm ;)

I think there is also a big difference between seeing a snake in a pic and seeing it in person, and let me tell you Justin's Pastel Pied is pure hotness ;).

But than again beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and there are morph that do not do it for me also.

Yeah people's opinions really do vary greatly. I personally am not really into pieds, but most people love them.

With that being said, I don't really see too many limitations. I think some genes will work well together and still produce a clean look for those that like that. Take the bumblebee enchi for example. Three genes in one creating a nice clean snake.

Dreamcicles have to be the coolest pied cross, or the lesser pied that RDR did that was whiter than a lesser lucy.

I just hope people keep at it until we get a purple and orange BP, because I don't want to buy a retic to get a purple and orange snake!

Some people like a busy looking normal and for others the more reduced the better. A demand will exist for all morphs, but the question is will the demand compared to supply be in line for these multi gene animals. The end results are going to be some multi gene morphs will sell for more than others and it will not necessarily be based on the cost of each individual gene involved.

As an Hypothetical example we will call three genes A, B, and C.
By them selves each morph gene sells for the following:
A = $2000
B = $500
C = $1000

While a combo Morph with Gene A and B might be worth $5000 you could find a combo with Gene A and C being only worth $2500. This could be the case if more people found combo AB more attractive than combo AC. Even though it cost more to make the AC gene animal than the AB.

There is a lil something for everyone when it comes to bp's, and that pastel pied is a lil something I really like.... I like the disorganized/chaotic/shattered look.... does it for me! :)

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

they all turn white eventually. Look how many morphs we have, that when bred together get you white snakes..............


In a few years, there are going to be so many combo morphs, that they are all going to make white snakes!!!!


HA!!!!!!

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DDDDDD8 I hope not!!!!!