What are some smaller boas?

What are some smaller sized boas? Im talking 8ft or less. Im thinking about a RTB, but not sure if i want one b/c of the size. But for the most part I want a boa.

Hog island boas stay smaller.. 4-6' is pretty average.

Here's my big female hog island:

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/divahold.jpg

They can be very orange.. you can see some of it here.. this is the male:

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...istofeb07e.jpg

Dumerils boas are another good bet.. 5-7' is the average.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...nfeb06shed.jpg

Rosy Boas are VERY small boas. Only about 3 ft average. Maybe a hogg island boa, and I've heard a (bluefields boa?) doesn't get too big either.

Kenyan Sand Boas, Rainbow Boas, Rubber boas are a few that come to mind for me.

Lots of dwarf boas - Hogs, Corns, Nics, CA's, Crawl Cays, Cay Caulkers, Blood Boas, Sonorans, ect...Bluefields are a Nic locality...
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A male RTB has a high chance of being 7-8 feet.

If you want a RTB that grows under 8', get a male. Here's a list of smaller boas that are widely bred and easy to get: the Rosy Boa (4' maximum), Kenyan Sand Boa (3' maximum), and the Hog Island Boa.

I like Nics, they have some amazing pattern, and stay QUITE small!

Nics are a good bet. This guy is two and is right around 4 feet.

http://i28.tinypic.com/dzjar8.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/r7uhx5.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...ia/022_015.jpg
full grown female Candoia

Boa Constrictor Amarali

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Originally Posted by Shelby

Hog island boas stay smaller.. 4-6' is pretty average.

Here's my big female hog island:

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/divahold.jpg

They can be very orange.. you can see some of it here.. this is the male:

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...istofeb07e.jpg

Dumerils boas are another good bet.. 5-7' is the average.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...nfeb06shed.jpg

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WOW!!! We have a female Hogg that is pushing 9ft. Is she that much of an exception? She is A LOT bigger than our 8 year old Columbian Red Tail Female.

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Originally Posted by qiksilver

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...ia/022_015.jpg
full grown female Candoia

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Are those things easy to get? And how long is that one in the photo?

Candoia are kind of hard to find, and almost all of them are WC. What you find may not be very healthy.

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Originally Posted by Schlyne

Candoia are kind of hard to find, and almost all of them are WC. What you find may not be very healthy.

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I knew there was some flaw if I never saw or heard of them till now...
so I guess I'll scratch them off the "next snake" list.

yea im wanting to get a boa also but not sure about the size of a the BCI i had a Amazon tree boa once but sold it with i still had it but they person i sold it to let it bite her son and he pulled some teeth out wonder if she would be ok to get back? hey actually LLreptiles is have a sale on boas $55.00 plus shipping.

Ill look into some of these boas. There are a few family owned herp stores around here that ill look at and see what they have, then do some research and see what would be best for me.

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Originally Posted by FatBoy

WOW!!! We have a female Hogg that is pushing 9ft. Is she that much of an exception? She is A LOT bigger than our 8 year old Columbian Red Tail Female.

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9' is really big for a Hogg island.. are you sure it's pure hoggie? For the record, my female is bigger now than she was in the picture.. not a lot, but she's good sized.

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http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...ia/022_015.jpg
full grown female Candoia

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Wow, that is one intriguing little boa. Where can I find more information? Any other pictures? How did you acquire? Any other special considerations?

Here's a good info page on candoia boas: http://www.kingsnake.com/candoia/

From what I remember they are difficult to switch to eating rodents. I know viper boas are (they're the biggest of the candoia). You can occasionally find CB candoia.. but it can be hard.

HOGG island boas are a cross. HOG island boas are the real deal.

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Originally Posted by stangs13

HOGG island boas are a cross. HOG island boas are the real deal.

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I've never heard that before.. I just figured it was two ways to spell the name of the island.. which is supposed to be 'hog'.. (cayos cochinos).. I just forgot and spelled it wrong again. lol

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Originally Posted by Shelby

Here's a good info page on candoia boas: http://www.kingsnake.com/candoia/

From what I remember they are difficult to switch to eating rodents. I know viper boas are (they're the biggest of the candoia). You can occasionally find CB candoia.. but it can be hard.

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How hard is it to obtain a Viper Boa?

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Wow, that is one intriguing little boa. Where can I find more information? Any other pictures? How did you acquire? Any other special considerations?

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I have a few other pics, she's a beast, real healthy and eats mice like a champ. Got here from an importer and babied her for a year until she finally got healthy. Did the same with a few others. They usually start as frog and lizard feeders.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

Here's a good info page on candoia boas: http://www.kingsnake.com/candoia/

From what I remember they are difficult to switch to eating rodents. I know viper boas are (they're the biggest of the candoia). You can occasionally find CB candoia.. but it can be hard.

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Good site ref. Some of them are hard to switch, and nope, C. bibroni is the largest. Vipers aren't that big.
Not many people work with candoia. If you can stand to listen to/deal with jerry conway he sometimes has SI ground boas and halmahera's available. Other people sometimes breed tree boas, but don't usually post them for sale.

Hehe, you guys basically listed everything but BCC, BCO and BCI...=D

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Originally Posted by Onua Nuva

How hard is it to obtain a Viper Boa?

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There's usually at least a couple of them on kingsnake..

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Originally Posted by qiksilver

Good site ref. Some of them are hard to switch, and nope, C. bibroni is the largest. Vipers aren't that big.
Not many people work with candoia. If you can stand to listen to/deal with jerry conway he sometimes has SI ground boas and halmahera's available. Other people sometimes breed tree boas, but don't usually post them for sale.

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I was thinking viper boa = more heavy bodied more than being the longest. I'm not super familiar with all the candoia though.. I'd like to be they're some of the coolest looking boas.

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What are some smaller sized boas? Im talking 8ft or less. Im thinking about a RTB, but not sure if i want one b/c of the size. But for the most part I want a boa.

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When people ask for a smaller alternative to a RTB, I usually assume - perhaps mistakenly - that they are asking for a smaller version of the arch-typical BCC or BCI.

If that is the case, some options that fit the bill are the locality "dwarves" of the imperator genus (the Sonoran, Tarahumara, Crawl Cay, Caulker Cay, Corn Island, etc) variants. As others have stated. the amarali and longicauda fit the bill as do the venezualan red-tails. I've seen too many super-sized hogs lately..............

Eryx (sand boas) and Charina (rosy boas) are not in boinae subfamily - the are in the Erycinae family.

On the other hand, the Pacific Island Boas (Candoia) while in a different genus than the RTBs, are in the boinae subfamily - as are the "traditional" BCI, BCC, BCA, and BCL.

I have both Sonoran and Tarahumara BCI and after over five years of ownership, the largest has barely cracked 4.5' in length with proportionally narrower girth. Except for the size, they capture most of the essence of the RTB experience without the bigger food bill or caging expense.

I am always very cautious in recommending candoia or corallus (tree boas) to people looking for a "small" boa. The require more stringent husbandry practices, can be difficult eaters and are, as a rule, not as amenable to handling.