Oh No!

Here's an update on the scale rot treated girl that was lying funny last week with a swelled back end.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...les/001-10.jpg

Since the last posting, she had a large dump, ate the day after going, and according to the vet has follicles. Now she is wrapping her bowl and going into shed.

Can you say post ovulation shed?

The seller still says she has never been with a male.
I know she has not been with a male here since she is still in QT.

If he never put her with a male and I never put her with a male, then how come it seems that about 2 months after arriving she appears to be gravid?!

A female can ovulate without being bred. She will either lay slugs or re-absorb them.

It's not at all uncommon.

She seems to be going farther along than ovulating and reabsorbing. If no male has ever been in contact with her, then it will most likely be duds. I have not had the opportunity to see a BP do this before when no male was ever present so if she does end up laying something, this will be very interesting.
However, based on the various issues I had with the guy about this girls history and health, I tend to think she was with a male and may end up laying viable eggs (although I have no idea how she could after being in such bad shape when she arrived here).

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Originally Posted by SPJ

Can you say post ovulation shed?

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From my experience, females will not eat a minimum of two months before ovulating...

I have only had them go off feed after the shed and right before dropping. Most will resume feeding a few days after dropping eggs.

i had 2 that ate right up to ovulation when i staopped feeding them. then again most stopped alot sooner than that maybe early cooling cycle they stopped

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Originally Posted by SPJ

She seems to be going farther along than ovulating and reabsorbing. If no male has ever been in contact with her, then it will most likely be duds. I have not had the opportunity to see a BP do this before when no male was ever present so if she does end up laying something, this will be very interesting.
However, based on the various issues I had with the guy about this girls history and health, I tend to think she was with a male and may end up laying viable eggs (although I have no idea how she could after being in such bad shape when she arrived here).

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My god Steve you should be well educated after all the stuff you have been thru lately :P.Yea i bet that clown tried breeding her :mad:

Well.........this is her today. :weirdface

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...les/001-11.jpg

Whats her back ground? Is she a wc? Maybe the guy got her in and thought she wasnt gravid? Could be a very cool clutch.. Atleast its an exciting one until they hatch..:gj:

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A female can ovulate without being bred. She will either lay slugs or re-absorb them.

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And to clarify further...once a female ovulates she will not resorb. Follicles can be resorbed, and the female will not subsequently ovulate, since there's nothing there to "move forward" with the entire process.

After ovulation, whatever is in there is coming out, whether fertile eggs, infertile eggs or little yellow immature ova (aka "slugs").

:)

K~

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Originally Posted by SPJ

Since the last posting, she had a large dump, ate the day after going, and according to the vet has follicles. Now she is wrapping her bowl and going into shed.

Can you say post ovulation shed?

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Well follicles are not eggs so I would say she has not ovulated. a vet should be able to tell follicles from eggs.. eggs are softer and harder to feel. Also wrapping around the water bowl like that is an indication of building (follicle development) If you have a male in quarantine I would put him with her because those eggs will not be fertile.

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Originally Posted by JASBALLS

Whats her back ground? Is she a wc? Maybe the guy got her in and thought she wasnt gravid? Could be a very cool clutch.. Atleast its an exciting one until they hatch..:gj:

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I'm starting to wonder since she arrived with scars and scale rot.
She just may be a WC animal. She eats great but that funky male WC ate like a champ when he arrived so I can't base her origin on that. Since she was supposed to be a perfect, 100% healthy female and arrived far from that, I would not doubt if she is an import. This is going to be interesting to see what pops out.

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Originally Posted by Somed00d

If you have a male in quarantine I would put him with her because those eggs will not be fertile.

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She is not going near any of the males here. She is not out of QT yet. I changed from paper to mulch to bump humidity but that is the only thing I am doing. I don't want to chance one of may animals with her for a long time.