Has anybody produced....

Piebald Clowns? I don't remember seeing any pictures of them....

Not yet. However, I know a couple people that are working on it.

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Not yet. However, I know a couple people that are working on it.

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I could be wrong, but I thought it's been done? I swear I've seen a pic of one, but I could be wrong. But Muddoc is right, if it hasnt been done, I am sure we will see one real soon.

i was just thinking about this. what a pastel piebald clown would look like.

I saw an ad for double hets a while back but don’t remember pictures or if it was a reliable source.

Years and years ago there was some odd evidence that made me wonder if pied and clown might be alleles so I was half expecting that the double hets might not be normal looking. It's been so long now that I'm not sure I'm remembering the details right so if anyone knows please correct me. I think the story goes like this - someone named Matt Turner produced a pied breeding a VPI clown het to an assumed normal.

I never heard any follow-up as to what later breeding results showed with the animals involved. But one possible explanation I came up with was that clown and pied might be alleles (two different mutant versions of the same gene) and the pied//clown animal with one copy each of both mutations might look pied. In this scenario the normal female was a het pied, perhaps picked to pair with the het clown based on belly markers.

But, if people are finally purposely producing double hets now someone should know if they look normal or not so let me know so I can check this theory off. Maybe Matt’s het clown male just happened to also be het pied. Seems like this was close to a decade ago so someone should know by now.

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Originally Posted by munding

i was just thinking about this. what a pastel piebald clown would look like.

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definitely crossed my mind before... :P that's a holy grail right there....

http://www.ballpython.com/page.php?topic=available
Check out this breeder's website...looks like they've found "the holy grail". It better be a damn good snake...its $25,000.00! I'd like to see who buys the thing.

ballpython.com/page.php?topic=available check it out. Someone has and it's only 25k

$25,000 holy :cens0r: that is crazy

Cool Snake but not 25K cool, I'd rather have TSK's Killer Clown :gj:

Wow. I can't even afford the $400 snakes right now. -Groans.-

When TSK produced the pied clown this summer they posted the details and if I remember right it turns out they bought the Matt Turner Pied and while it never turned out to be het clown they bred it to a clown just in case and that was how they started the project that eventually produced the pied clown.

ya look under the post Clown Combo in this forum.....the picture is there

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Originally Posted by zooosu10

...its $25,000.00! I'd like to see who buys the thing.

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FYI

25,000 is the stock price for morphs that no one really expects to sell, especially combos that can be produced in time.

It is a high price, but is only half-serious.

Snakes that sell at that price tend to be base morphs that no one else has...

Bruce

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Originally Posted by PhillyBoyInTN

Cool Snake but not 25K cool, I'd rather have TSK's Killer Clown :gj:

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Killer Clown is awesome!

Meh, not that big of a deal. I didn't think it would be either. I don't think that pied and other pattern genes will mix very well, but I guess you never know. The only good thing about it is that it will be very powerful for breeding.