LCD/Plasma HDTV Poll

Ok so, LCD or Plasma?

This brand or that brand?

Whats yerr fav?

Let me know!


(multiple options coming soon)

I like Olevia..

Decent picture for the price :)

LCD

Samsung or Sony Bravia

I should say Pick one of those if you got money to spend

Get a Insignia or Olevia if your on a budget

We got a Sony Bravia
best tv ever:gj:

I got a flat panel high def lcd from Olevia and I love it. My next is going to be the new Sharp Aquos though.. the big boy. 72 I think?

The poll would only let me pick one. I think that you get more bang for your buck buying LCD rather than plasma. It's hard to get a better deal than what Sam's Club or Costco will give you. I have seen good sale prices on Sharp LCD tv's at Walmart. Samsung makes quality products for less money than the bigger boys do.

LCD is a type of TV. Then the top names are sony-panisonic-toshiba.. The reason LCD is better is the crisp pic it gives and the fact that it wont burn a image on your screen like a plasma would. So if you are a video gamer like myself LCD is the best.
LCD is Liquid Crystal so there is a actual liquid in the tv. Plasma is a gas based tv which also will fade away after time. Now the bad things about LCD.. Its a liquid.. It can and will freeze and if that does happen kiss the TV goodbye. Also the darker images are harder to see in some LCD TVs.. I had done much research and read all the stuff through consumer reports. I purchased my 52" LCD from Costco. They are a hard place to beat as far as prices..

Other than that good luck:rolleye2::gj:

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Originally Posted by WaRocker

LCD is a type of TV. Then the top names are sony-panisonic-toshiba.. The reason LCD is better is the crisp pic it gives and the fact that it wont burn a image on your screen like a plasma would. So if you are a video gamer like myself LCD is the best.
LCD is Liquid Crystal so there is a actual liquid in the tv. Plasma is a gas based tv which also will fade away after time. Now the bad things about LCD.. Its a liquid.. It can and will freeze and if that does happen kiss the TV goodbye. Also the darker images are harder to see in some LCD TVs.. I had done much research and read all the stuff through consumer reports. I purchased my 52" LCD from Costco. They are a hard place to beat as far as prices..

Other than that good luck:rolleye2::gj:

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I am sorry but most of this is wrong...or I should say not technically accurate.

LCD TV do not have liquid in them...they use a crystalline structure that vibrates to open/closed positions which in turn allows the bright white light behind the crystal to show through. The benefit is that they can be very bright and have exceptionally vivid colors (Sony Bravia lead in the level of colors so far and IMO are the best option). The downside is that the cannot produce black as a color (light will bleed through even a closed cell producing a bluish black (in Sony) or brownish black (in Olivia or other cheaper brands). LCD's can get burn in...though in most cases it is not permanent provided you shut the TV or don't have really long term stable images on the screen (a 4 hr game marathon won't have any affect but overnight with a logo left on will). Also, due to manufacturing processes LCD are limited in size to...so anything over 45" are extremely expensive.

Plasma - same thing do really have any gas in them...they use plasma which is also a liquid crystal. Unlike LCD that vibrates Plasmas go from solid to "liquid" and back and forth. This essentially opens/closes the pixel releasing the light. The benefit is they can produce a true black color meaning better shadows and better dark details. The downside is they are slower when going from one color to another so technically they might not look as sharp as LCD but I would challenge anyone to really be able to prove that and show it. Due to costs Plasma TV have really stayed at the larger sizes 50"+ which is where their cost advantage comes in.

Resolution:
720p - great for TV viewing, DVD and Xbox360 or lower game systems
1080p - great for Bluray and PS3 (along with HD TV)
Personally I would only buy a 1080P as that is where everything is heading but 720p are cheaper and unless you have a Bluray or PS3 you won't see any difference)

Size: 40" or small buy an LCD, 50" + buy a plasma

BTW...the clubs (Sams or Costco) really are your best bets in getting a great deal (on the larger sizes)

I have been involved with sales and manufacturing of TVs for years so I hope this helps

I can't stand plasma and the ghosting. It bothers the creepin begeezus out of me to see a stupid white after image from any movement in the program. I go to Best Buy and Circuit City, and they still havent solved that problem in their newer models apparently.

Down with the plasma!

I'm an LCD girl all the way.

Voted LCD as that's what I have in the bedroom. But for the living room I have a Planar PR5020 DLP Projector - 3000 Lumens!!! I can watch it during the day and it gives me a 100inch screen:gj: If you have the wall space:rolleye2: Oh and did I mention it does HDTV:)

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

I am sorry but most of this is wrong...or I should say not technically accurate.

LCD TV do not have liquid in them...they use a crystalline structure that vibrates to open/closed positions which in turn allows the bright white light behind the crystal to show through. The benefit is that they can be very bright and have exceptionally vivid colors (Sony Bravia lead in the level of colors so far and IMO are the best option). The downside is that the cannot produce black as a color (light will bleed through even a closed cell producing a bluish black (in Sony) or brownish black (in Olivia or other cheaper brands). LCD's can get burn in...though in most cases it is not permanent provided you shut the TV or don't have really long term stable images on the screen (a 4 hr game marathon won't have any affect but overnight with a logo left on will). Also, due to manufacturing processes LCD are limited in size to...so anything over 45" are extremely expensive.

Plasma - same thing do really have any gas in them...they use plasma which is also a liquid crystal. Unlike LCD that vibrates Plasmas go from solid to "liquid" and back and forth. This essentially opens/closes the pixel releasing the light. The benefit is they can produce a true black color meaning better shadows and better dark details. The downside is they are slower when going from one color to another so technically they might not look as sharp as LCD but I would challenge anyone to really be able to prove that and show it. Due to costs Plasma TV have really stayed at the larger sizes 50"+ which is where their cost advantage comes in.

Resolution:
720p - great for TV viewing, DVD and Xbox360 or lower game systems
1080p - great for Bluray and PS3 (along with HD TV)
Personally I would only buy a 1080P as that is where everything is heading but 720p are cheaper and unless you have a Bluray or PS3 you won't see any difference)

Size: 40" or small buy an LCD, 50" + buy a plasma

BTW...the clubs (Sams or Costco) really are your best bets in getting a great deal (on the larger sizes)

I have been involved with sales and manufacturing of TVs for years so I hope this helps

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Wow, LCD does in fact have liquid in it. Not like water but a liquid substance just the same. This is why they can freeze. Its the HUGE WARNING IN YOUR INSTRUCTIONS that says this can happen. It has happened many time during the winter up here when the power has gon out for many days and the tv freezes and then is not repairable.
Unless consumer reports is lying?? Hmm let me think ..
Oh and as far as plasma goes its old tech. This is why you will see fewer of them out regardless of the size..

LCD vs. Plasma TVs
Both are better than ever, and the best sets raise the bar for picture quality

The vast majority of consumers are buying LCD and plasma flat panels rather than rear-projection sets or front projectors with separate screens. Neither LCD nor plasma is the clear winner for quality; there are excellent sets of both types in our Ratings of LCD TVs and Ratings of plasma TVs (both available to subscribers).

There are reasons to opt for one over the other, though. With LCDs, you'll have a wider choice of 1080p sets than with plasmas, and the price premium over a 720p TV is usually smaller. You'll also have more screen sizes to choose from, including sets smaller than 42 inches-typically the smallest size for a plasma. (See: Why buy an LCD TV?)

LCD TVs are generally a bit brighter than plasma, and their screens are less reflective, so many look better in bright rooms. They're also better for playing video games and for use as a computer monitor because they're not subject to burn-in from fixed images displayed for a long period, as plasma TVs can be. (Burn-in might have been more of a problem with early plasma sets. We've seen no evidence of permanent image retention in our short-term tests, and recent anecdotal evidence from our own staffers and online forum participants hasn't turned up any burn-in issues in typical long-term use at home.) LCD sets use less power, but the differences aren't that great. (See: Why buy a plasma TV?)

On the other hand, plasma TVs generally cost a bit less than LCD sets of comparable size and quality, though the price difference is shrinking. The best plasma TVs are better than LCD sets at displaying deep blacks and tend to have better contrast, which makes for rich, natural-looking images, especially in dim lighting. They're also better than LCDs at handling motion without blurring the image, though some new 120Hz LCDs are showing improvement in that area. (See: When either type is fine)

Another major advantage: Plasma TVs have a virtually unlimited viewing angle, so the picture quality doesn't deteriorate when you watch the screen from off-center. With most LCD sets (and rear-projection TVs), the picture loses some contrast, color, or brightness as you angle away from the center. You might not notice this too much with bright images and vivid colors like you'll see in a football game, but the degradation in quality can be obvious with other programs.

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Originally Posted by WaRocker

Wow, LCD does in fact have liquid in it. Not like water but a liquid substance just the same. This is why they can freeze. Its the HUGE WARNING IN YOUR INSTRUCTIONS that says this can happen. It has happened many time during the winter up here when the power has gon out for many days and the tv freezes and then is not repairable.

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You believe what you want...having built them I can tell you they don't (they use an electro reactive crystaline structure that is semi-solid but in no way a liquid that is sandwiched between what could pass for glass). This is done at a molecular level and the cystaline strucuture is orientated in a "twised" pattern (allowing all light to pass through), when power is applied the crystals "line-up" and will then block the light this change in orientation is what allows different levels of light to pass through...this light is then directed to colored filters to give it the red/green/blue color needed to make up the picture.

The initial state of the crystalline structure is liquid when it is first made but by time is makes it to your TV set it isn't any longer (it is applied as a liquid to the system then "sets".). Think of the analogy of ice...is was a liquid first then solidifies into a solid...but it is still "water" just in a different form.

As for freezing...any TV that freezes will be ruined.

If you want the best picture quality, go Plasma.

LCD's don't offer the image quality of plasmas *yet*, they will eventually but it will be another year or two...perhaps more.

If you have a limited budget but want a flat panel, LCD is the other choice. They are cheaper, lighter, and use less energy.

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

You believe what you want...having built them I can tell you they don't (they use an electro reactive crystaline structure that is semi-solid but in no way a liquid that is sandwiched between what could pass for glass). This is done at a molecular level and the cystaline strucuture is orientated in a "twised" pattern (allowing all light to pass through), when power is applied the crystals "line-up" and will then block the light this change in orientation is what allows different levels of light to pass through...this light is then directed to colored filters to give it the red/green/blue color needed to make up the picture.

The initial state of the crystalline structure is liquid when it is first made but by time is makes it to your TV set it isn't any longer (it is applied as a liquid to the system then "sets".). Think of the analogy of ice...is was a liquid first then solidifies into a solid...but it is still "water" just in a different form.

As for freezing...any TV that freezes will be ruined.

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Well actually a solid state TV wont freeze and neither will a plasma due to it is gas. So go figure the "LIQUID" tv freezes and the others dont. Could it be because it is liquid? let me think. And again you even went back on yourself on one hand you said it was not liquid but then again you said it is.. or do i use your words ? "but it is still "water" just in a different form". That to me says LIQUID ALL OVER IT. I guess my BA in mechanical engineering was worthless :( Darn those colleges:rofl::weirdface
Oh and the thousands of people who say the same as far as the liquid.. being liquid.. and gas being gas and solid being solid..

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Originally Posted by WaRocker

Well actually a solid state TV wont freeze and neither will a plasma due to it is gas. So go figure the "LIQUID" tv freezes and the others dont. Could it be because it is liquid? let me think. And again you even went back on yourself on one hand you said it was not liquid but then again you said it is.. or do i use your words ? "but it is still "water" just in a different form". That to me says LIQUID ALL OVER IT. I guess my BA in mechanical engineering was worthless :( Darn those colleges:rofl::weirdface
Oh and the thousands of people who say the same as far as the liquid.. being liquid.. and gas being gas and solid being solid..

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I have no interest in arguing with you...my snakes need attending and I was just trying to help.

OP...per Warocker don't by an LCD if you live in a freezer or are afraid your TV might spill on the couch.

Peace.

Wow such heated debate....I LOVE IT!!!!

As far as the poll goes. I clicked the option to make more than one clickable, but I think I double clicked it, so it went on and off. The mods cant change it either so oh well, im not that worried about it!

Sorry for the mess up, Thanx for the details!

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

I have no interest in arguing with you...my snakes need attending and I was just trying to help.

OP...per Warocker don't by an LCD if you live in a freezer or are afraid your TV might spill on the couch.

Peace.

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Super:D We shall agree to disagree.. :weirdface
Now for the important things in life.. Its lunch time and i need more than 3 hrs of sleep a night to function.

:sabduel:

Eh.. I still have a giant old projection TV. Thanks for the poll; we are looking soon too!

hmm it says pic all that apply but i can only pic one. i got a samsung lcd 1080P. xbox could not be played on a better screen.

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

Plasma - same thing do really have any gas in them...they use plasma which is also a liquid crystal. Unlike LCD that vibrates Plasmas go from solid to "liquid" and back and forth. This essentially opens/closes the pixel releasing the light.

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Plasmas use natural gases (xenon, neon, etc) that glow and produce their own light when electrically charged. Since they don't have back-lights (like LCDs), they are able to produce true blacks -- no electric charge = no light whatsoever.

We have a Sony Bravia and have been quite happy with it.

I certainly do like the Sony Bravia, BUT......

I was at best buy and the sony bravia was just below the toshiba. at twice the price, I kid you not that the sony bravia didnt look as clear as the toshiba, Im not even lieing!

phillips ambient light plasma is where its at... had my 42'' for 2 yrs now and no LCD ive seen matches up

I've got a 47" LG LCD 1080p...

I absolutely love it, I give it hugs regularly to keep the water inside from freezing ;)

I have a 32 Westing house they also make airplanes haha and they make a very fine TV works great for my XBOX

I know a guy with a 42 Westing House that is pretty sweet!

We have a 54" samsung plasma. My husband was the one that decided on it, our livingroom isnt bright, so we went with this one. I like it. It works ha!

Aquos 1080... I want to say 52"?

Pat, I assume (perhaps wrongly) that you are looking to buy a television. At this time Costco is selling online only an Envision LCD 26" TV with a 2 yr warranty for $399 0r a 32" Envision LCD for $499. That may not be what you are looking for but for a small time guy like me that is right up my alley and I just ordered a 32".

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Pat, I assume (perhaps wrongly) that you are looking to buy a television. At this time Costco is selling online only an Envision LCD 26" TV with a 2 yr warranty for $399 0r a 32" Envision LCD for $499. That may not be what you are looking for but for a small time guy like me that is right up my alley and I just ordered a 32".

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Dale, I dont have costco membership, or any club for that fact. Best buy and Circuit city have some awesome deals going on, and i have a 30% off on items over 500 from there, soo thats where im gonna go. Im just torn. I really like the toshibas, and LGs And id like something a little bigger than 32. I was lookin at the Toshiba 37" and it looked really really good. Thats the one that I thought looked better than the Sonay Bravia for 1300

Costco will sell to you online without a membership but they add a $20 fee for a non member. Just sayin' and junk.

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Dale, I dont have costco membership, or any club for that fact. Best buy and Circuit city have some awesome deals going on, and i have a 30% off on items over 500 from there, soo thats where im gonna go. Im just torn. I really like the toshibas, and LGs And id like something a little bigger than 32. I was lookin at the Toshiba 37" and it looked really really good. Thats the one that I thought looked better than the Sonay Bravia for 1300

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Pat just so you know you can go to Costco and tell them you're thinking of joining but would like a free pass to check out and shop the store for a day. I'm pretty sure they give out temporary passes.

I got my t.v. at best buy around the superbowl and got a great deal. One thing I learned when I was shopping was to keep an eye out for the contrast ratio and refresh rates; depending on what you're going to use your t.v. it could make a difference.

Well....its gonna be for TV DVDs PS2 and Xbox 360...thass it!

We have a plasma Samsung and absolutely thinks its the best. We shopped around quite a bit.

Plasma = Better Picture Quality

LCD = Longer Life

I picked LG because of all the brands they were the ones with the best of both worlds. Higher contrast ratio means nice picture quality and vivid colors, refresh rates effect how the picture looks during high speed movements, the lower the refresh rate the better the picture looks during times of rapid movement.

I sacrificed a little bit on contrast ratio to get a lower refresh rate; I play a lot of games and DVDs pretty much too.

I have a 32" Westinghouse LCD. It's an older model, but is awesome. Had it for about 2.5 years and its a rocking TV. Would definitely buy Westinghouse again.

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Originally Posted by lord jackel

Resolution:
720p - great for TV viewing, DVD and Xbox360 or lower game systems
1080p - great for Bluray and PS3 (along with HD TV)
Personally I would only buy a 1080P as that is where everything is heading but 720p are cheaper and unless you have a Bluray or PS3 you won't see any difference)

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I remember reading somewhere that at more than a couple of feet away from a screen your eyes can't see the enhanced resolution from 720p to 1080p. But that being said, I agree that 1080p will be able to handle everything so might as well buy it. From a personal experience I have a 720p TV and can't tell a difference between that and 1080p on my friends TV. Both look amazing.

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Size: 40" or small buy an LCD, 50" + buy a plasma

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I think where you put the TV is also a factor. If you're putting it a brightly lit room, then LCD is better than plasma. That could be a factor for some who's TV is in a room with a lot of light.

And I agree about the Costco, I know they have a lifetime return policy. You can return it for whatever reason.

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Well....its gonna be for TV DVDs PS2 and Xbox 360...thass it!

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Among things like ghosting and color definition, you need to pay particularly close attention to the location and room it's used in. Plasmas tend to suffer in high altitudes, and while they can be brighter in "optimal" conditions (ie. no ambient light), LCDs tend to be brighter in "realistic" conditions (a living room with windows, for instance). Also, the material the screens are usually fabricated from have different gloss levels, which can be extremely annoying if you have any windows within the viewing region (you'll constantly see their reflection during the day).

Well, im right on the beach in Cali, so not worried about the elevation, nor the dark room. My room is pretty lit, and I like the NON glare screen anyways, in any room! LOL

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Aquos 1080... I want to say 52"?

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That is the one I have.. it is sweet huh..

*Takes deep breath*

Well overall Samsungs seem to be the best tv's out. Their new 650 and 750 Series Tv's are awesome. Sonys are a close second and thats what I currently have. As for longevity, plasma's and LCD's are both rated at 22-27 years under optimal conditions. Look more realistically at 10-15 though. As for an Olevia being a decent TV avoid them at all costs. I have seen them go from having a decent picture to have a muddy one for no reason. Vizio's are a much better choice for around the same price or a Proscan even. As for Burn in it is not possible on an LCD TV, I have never seen it on any computer LCD monitors and the LCD TV technology stems from there. Plasma's can have it and it has been know to happen in as little as two hours, I have seen it personally after 6 hrs. If you get a plasma get some form of protection on it. AS LONG AS IT IS NOT AN EXTENDED MANUFACTURER WARRANTY. No manufacturer warranty covers burn in or any damage caused by it. Read the manual and it will be in bold print. I work at Sears for over a year and was their FT Electronics guy Have talked to their techs and had to deal with manufacturers about warranty work. Trust me its a Pita.

Oh and I voted LCD I've got a Sony KDL46V3000 here 1080P with a 8ms panel and 13.000 :1 dynamic contrast ratio.

OK Pat- Now Costco has online a 42" Phillips for $999 delivered.

I bought a great looking Toshiba 26" LCD for a good price. What a sharp looking TV.

Well seeing as no one picked LG, I decided to buy an LG LOL!!!!

Got a 42" LG LCD. Couldnt have asked for a better TV. Thanx yall for the input!

'preciate it!

Plasma is better than LCD in dark rooms, it really depends on where the TV is located.

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Well seeing as no one picked LG, I decided to buy an LG LOL!!!!

Got a 42" LG LCD. Couldnt have asked for a better TV. Thanx yall for the input!

'preciate it!

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I love my LG, I hope you enjoy the widescreen lovin too :gj: