fires!!!

so i believe fires are one of the best morphs out there, they make great combos and not to forget the black eyed lucy. there still a untapped morph that has many combos to still do. but im worried about there future, people keep posting snakes on classifieds claiming there fires, and im not saying that all of them arent fires but people keep selling these so called fires for cheaper and cheaper every day, i got a pair from Brad A. and as i have seen alot of people on this site have also, and brads fires are beutiful and amazing FIRES. and i know we all paid alot for them, i geuss what im trying to get at is theres a lot of [not-so-nice people] out there that screw up the market, anyone care to comment

Yes fires are great! I just dropped a little over 3g's on my 07 pair. Mine are from the davies line which is the only real fire line. I have spoken with everyone who knows anything about fires. The flame hypo is a fire. There are alot of high gold animals out there that are just normals that may be sold as fires and the problem is fires can be variable, so it can be difficult to tell. It looks like willibanks is now selling off some males for cheap. The thing is do you see any females for sale from a proven line? If you do they will be at least 2g's. I will be breeding males back out to many normals as fast as I can, holding all the females and getting some black eye's as well as some fire combos out. Your seeing the males for cheap but their price is to move some animals and keep the competition a few years back. You get an 07 male this year you may have a breed able female in 3 years. We'll see what the 08 season has. Hopefully the people that do produce fires keep them at a premium, the morph deserves that.

i couldnt agree with you more

Apparently I'm out of the loop - who is Brad A.? I would be interested in seeing his website, as a Fire is on my "must have" lists one day!

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Apparently I'm out of the loop - who is Brad A.? I would be interested in seeing his website, as a Fire is on my "must have" lists one day!

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Agreed....is there a link to any other threads where someone discusses the different yb combos out there and what you produce from certain combos? I am not up to par on my yb game yet. :rolleye2:

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Apparently I'm out of the loop - who is Brad A.? I would be interested in seeing his website, as a Fire is on my "must have" lists one day!

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Robin........his name is Brad Armitage. He produced our male Fire. His business name is Picasso Reptiles. He's in North Carolina and if he has a website, I'm not aware of it.

I can help you get in touch with him when you're ready. :)

What about Amir? Doesnt he have a line, I know some are selling under his name.

Jeremy yes Amir has his own line. They are awesome I have held his super's last year. I almost bought one for myself. He calls his line Flame hypo's. I have two clutches from Fire to Pastel and one clutch from Ghost to Fire and 4 clutches of Fire to Normal cooking so I am going to probably pick up one of his super's this year. The only thing I have to do now is figure out how many females to hold back!

Brock

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Robin........his name is Brad Armitage. He produced our male Fire. His business name is Picasso Reptiles. He's in North Carolina and if he has a website, I'm not aware of it.

I can help you get in touch with him when you're ready. :)

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Louis - ok - yes, I know his name. And he's a Tarheel too! (I was raised in NC). I'll be in touch when I'm ready - thank you!

I've seen photos of 'fire pastels' and they looking amazing, but what else has the fire been crossed into? Anyone have any images or links to some crosses?

Oh, and holy crap Brock, I know you said you wanted to produce some but I didn't know you had that many clutches! :O

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I've seen photos of 'fire pastels' and they looking amazing, but what else has the fire been crossed into? Anyone have any images or links to some crosses?

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Oh and I've seen the 'spider fire' are there any others?

My Fire is a breeding machine and Ive breed him to Pastel, Cinny& Yb's and many normals as well, I too think this morph is underrated and will produce many amazing combo's in years to come.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...z/DSC_0011.jpg

Kevin Stoltz

Chris you know if I do something I like to go big! I will light the world on fire this year!

Brock

Brock post some pics of your Fires..
Kevin Stoltz
www.kmsreptiles.com

Fire Ghost have been produced.
http://forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch...20285&key=2007
Trey

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Fire Ghost have been produced.
http://forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch...20285&key=2007
Trey

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Wow! Those are fantastic looking! That fire gene really does some cool stuff. :cool:

Those fire ghost DO look GREAT!!!! What else is there!? eeee! :)

My favorite morph is the pastel fire. That's why I am getting a fire to breed to my female, and will work up from there, I want fire bees fire super pastels, fire lesser, fire pins, fire blasts( the flame thrower!!!!!!) lol, as well as fireking pins. All total hotness!

I heard that fire bees should be coming out this year.

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My favorite morph is the pastel fire. That's why I am getting a fire to breed to my female, and will work up from there, I want fire bees fire super pastels, fire lesser, fire pins, fire blasts( the flame thrower!!!!!!) lol, as well as fireking pins. All total hotness!

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......ooooo does anyone have pics of these?? :please::omg::omfg::yes::w00t::thumbsup:

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......ooooo does anyone have pics of these?? :please::omg::omfg::yes::w00t::thumbsup:

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The only ones out of that list that are actualy visible are the fire pastels.

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Fire Ghost have been produced.
http://forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch...20285&key=2007
Trey

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I would like to see that animal as an adult, fires keep getting lighter as they age and ghosts kinda do as well.

Not to too my own horn or anything but I think the best FIRE line is my line. I produced it this year and I think it stands out a bit more than the other fires I've seen. You can really see the flames on this guy unlike the other lines, and I cant wait to see the super form.

































http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5...psofiremd3.jpg
See what I mean...?;)

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...SANDFOG046.jpg

hypo fire bred by mike wilbanks and owned by paul angelides the only one in existance so he says.

i like the F2 fires that Shane @ predators reptiles in Hull, UK is working with.....

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...eandf2fire.jpg

normal fire on top and F2 fire below.

bump for some more pics of fire combos! :D

I need some experts opinion here, Fire or Not?

http://www.ball-pythons.net/gallery/...ssfire_006.jpg

I would say no. But you can always breed it to see.

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Yes fires are great! I just dropped a little over 3g's on my 07 pair. Mine are from the davies line which is the only real fire line. I have spoken with everyone who knows anything about fires. The flame hypo is a fire. There are alot of high gold animals out there that are just normals that may be sold as fires and the problem is fires can be variable, so it can be difficult to tell. It looks like willibanks is now selling off some males for cheap. The thing is do you see any females for sale from a proven line? If you do they will be at least 2g's. I will be breeding males back out to many normals as fast as I can, holding all the females and getting some black eye's as well as some fire combos out. Your seeing the males for cheap but their price is to move some animals and keep the competition a few years back. You get an 07 male this year you may have a breed able female in 3 years. We'll see what the 08 season has. Hopefully the people that do produce fires keep them at a premium, the morph deserves that.

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This is a link to the Fire I purchased from Brad Armitage who has produced BEL's. She is getting better and better with each shed.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=67037

I saw a 1kg Fire pastel at a friends a few weeks back, probably The brightest morph i've ever seen.
looked radioactive it was soooo yellow:)