Amazing resilient fantastic animals !!!! and update for the Wysocki Jedi

Ok here is the back story.

I have an 06 female pastel that is getting close to breeding size. She has big plans involved for her. Any way I check my animals every day sometimes twice a day. Well about a month ago one Sunday I walked in to my snake room did my morning rat and snake check. I slid open her tub and hit the freaking roof. This is what I saw.

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There appears that there was a "bur" inside the Exo-Terra cave that I had for her hide. She had rubbed up against it and cut her eye cap through to the eye. I called Adam almost in tears cause I new what this meant she would loose the eye or go blind. After a couple of days I had resided to the fact that she was going to loose site in the eye at the very least. Well I kept her tub super clean like every other day cleaning it. Well I got to noticing that she was still focusing on me and her pupil was still responsive to light so I was hope full.

She shed last night and this is how she looks now.
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I am just amazed at how these animals are so resilient.

Wow that looked bad,but they have a very hard eye cap over the eye,sure did look bad,glad its ok!

You did an amazing job with her Ed - I know how worried you were over her!

Hey Ed~ Good job!! You're right: When given the proper basic husbandry needs, these snakes are indeed resilient! I am very happy this snake has you for its keeper :gj:

Wow! What a wonderful improvement! Way to go Ed. :clap:

Awesome recovery, I bet your stoked!

Thanks everyone. I really didn't d anything but hold my breath and pray.

Pat I am more relieve that she didn't get an infection than anything..

She looks good and just took her first meal so its all good now.

Wow, she made a great recovery. I am glad things worked out. It looks like her pupil is intact, is there any scarring on the lower half of the surface? Just from looking at the pics I would guess she is seeing pretty good out of that eye. It shows what proper husbandry can do.

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Wow I was so afraid for her just looing at the picture. I'm soooo glad she recovered and still can see!!!!

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Pat I am more relieve that she didn't get an infection than anything..

She looks good and just took her first meal so its all good now.

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Did you put anything on the eye at all, or did you just leave it be?

I think this is a good post because it can show how much trauma a lil snake can go through, and still pull through perfectly fine!

She looks fantastic Ed, great job we did with her! Sure makes one think though about doing a quick check on the inside of hides to just make sure they don't have a burr like yours did and cause this sort of injury. I'm so glad she's fully healed and that eye looks just perfect again. :)

Yes indeed in the first photo the eye actually looks punctured and in the last photo perfectly fine. A happy occurrence.

WOW that is incredible =]

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Originally Posted by snakelady

Wow I was so afraid for her just looKing at the picture. I'm so glad she recovered and still can see!!!!

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Yes as am I I was more scared that an infection would set in and we would be battling that.

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Did you put anything on the eye at all, or did you just leave it be?

I think this is a good post because it can show how much trauma a lil snake can go through, and still pull through perfectly fine!

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I did not put any thing on it at the risk of transferring something from my hand to the open wound.

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Originally Posted by frankykeno

She looks fantastic Ed, great job we did with her! Sure makes one think though about doing a quick check on the inside of hides to just make sure they don't have a burr like yours did and cause this sort of injury. I'm so glad she's fully healed and that eye looks just perfect again. :)

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I have since throw all of them out and have gone to using the kitty litter hides or the black ABS hides

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Originally Posted by dsirkle

Yes indeed in the first photo the eye actually looks punctured and in the last photo perfectly fine. A happy occurrence.

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Yea you should have seen me I was shaking I was so upset. But shes all healed now so its all good.

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Originally Posted by Thor26

WOW that is incredible =]

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Yea it a 180 degree turn around. :gj:

This is our little guy who is a 100% het pied. :(
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This is what corneal edema looks like. We have to apply ophthalmic ointment to his eye 3X a day for the next 21 days. It is only in the one eye on him. If the ointment does not work they will have to use a needle and try to suck it out and their is a posibility if we have to go that route that it could cause blindness. His sister also has it, not half as bad, but in both eyes. We are doing the ointment with her as well. They came in this way and initially we thought it was retained eye caps. After their second shed we took them to the vet since things were not getting better and the above is the diagnosis.

Congrats Ed. I am glad she made a full recovery for you.

I had a similar problem about 3 years ago. The difference with mine, is that it was self induced. I had a normal female that I believed had a stuck eye cap. Well I sprayed her down, and let the water soak for about 30 minutes. I went back after the water had time to soften the cap, and removed what I thought was the eye cap. It wasn't a retained eye cap, and what I ended up removing was the protective covering of the eye. After about 3 days, her eye looked like the one in your first photo (minus the cut). I freaked out, propbably about like you, and thought she would be permantly damaged in that eye. Low and behold, after 2 sheds, you coulnd't tell anything was ever wrong. Lesson learned here, was to ensure you have a stuck eye cap before trying to remove what you think is a cap, and may not be.

Once again, I am glad to hear that your girl is doing great.

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Congrats Ed. I am glad she made a full recovery for you.

I had a similar problem about 3 years ago. The difference with mine, is that it was self induced. I had a normal female that I believed had a stuck eye cap. Well I sprayed her down, and let the water soak for about 30 minutes. I went back after the water had time to soften the cap, and removed what I thought was the eye cap. It wasn't a retained eye cap, and what I ended up removing was the protective covering of the eye. After about 3 days, her eye looked like the one in your first photo (minus the cut). I freaked out, propbably about like you, and thought she would be permantly damaged in that eye. Low and behold, after 2 sheds, you coulnd't tell anything was ever wrong. Lesson learned here, was to ensure you have a stuck eye cap before trying to remove what you think is a cap, and may not be.

Once again, I am glad to hear that your girl is doing great.

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Thanks Tim,

I am very leery about messing with their eyes because there is such a fine line between help and injury. It went against everything in me to not try and treat the eye with something. But I was told to just leave it alone and watch for infection and keep her tub super clean.

The part that really kept me going was that her pupil stayed responsive to light and she would focus on me any time I looked at it even when it was cloudy.

I am just in aw of how well these animals when cared for properly how resilient they are. I am learning leaps and bounds every week with these things.

I just chalk this up on my experience board and keep the notes I took.

So far I've had burns, rat bites, RI's, internal parasites, granualoma's, regurge, this eye thing.

It is true the more you have the more you see.

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

It is true the more you have the more you see.

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Maybe the truest statement I have read in a long while. I see smoething I have never experienced before at least once a week. It is how we continue to learn. Fortunately, they are resilient, so that they can remain healthy whilst we are still learning.

They are amazing animals. Ed, if you'd ever seen the absolute mess of Saoirse's eyes when we got her - well you'd never believe there could be two functioning healthy eyes under so many layers of old stuck and hardened caps. Adam cautioned us to soak her and so forth but not to start hauling at those caps. Lo and behold, soaking took off a few layers and subsequent good sheds got rid of the rest and Ms. Saoirse had two beautiful, bright eyes under there. You just never know what they are capable of given the right care. :)

My Samson shed recently but I can't tell if the eyecaps came off or not (newbie:P)

I'll leave it until he sheds again then have a close look at the shed:gj:

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My Samson shed recently but I can't tell if the eyecaps came off or not (newbie:P)

I'll leave it until he sheds again then have a close look at the shed:gj:

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Thats probably the best thing. It doesn't cause them any harm and should come off with the next shed.