Pile-O-Babies!

Alright! The wait is over on this clutch... this was 100% het ghost female to a 50% het ghost male... and I think it's safe to say that he's unfortunately on the wrong side of that 50%! :P But there was only one way to find out! ;) Even though there are no Hypos in this clutch, I'm super excited that all 7 hatched great! Boob egg was 54g's and they went up to 66g's from there...They hatched on day 55 1/2 - to day 56, Mother's Day babies! :D There are some real lookers in there too! :D


Enjoy the CUTE!!! :D

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...ding/002-4.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...breeding/1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...breeding/2.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...breeding/3.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...breeding/4.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...breeding/5.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...breeding/6.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...breeding/7.jpg
All tucked in! :oops:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...ding/010-3.jpg

Thanks for looking! :)

Babies :banana::banana::banana:

Congrats Laura, also if this is your first time trying to prove this male out I would still give him another try next season, you might just have been out of luck this time!

Congrats on the beautiful babies!

Sorry about the hets not proving! Now save back some more of them females and a male and try again next year! I see some real lookers, that I would keep!

Congratz!

I don't understand why you want to prove out a 50% het male?
Het. ghost males are almost for free so why didn't you get a male 100% ?

it sucks the 50% didnt prove, congratz on the 7 healthy babies

Beautiful Mother's Day gifts Laura! :D
Happy Happy!!

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Originally Posted by MATTI

Congratz!

I don't understand why you want to prove out a 50% het male?
Het. ghost males are almost for free so why didn't you get a male 100% ?

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Matti, I understand what your saying.. But if some of us dont try and prove them out. Then what happens to all the possible het and normal males out in the world??

Congrats Laura on those very healthy looking babies! And Props to you for giving there dad a chance LOL!!

Congrats on the babies and Happy Moms Day!

Too bad they didn't prove out. :( But congrats on the babies! :)

Hey thanks everyone! :) Yea, I just figured it was worth a shot! :D No complaints here, I'm just happy they are all fat, and new, and cute, and not quite sure what they're doing here! :P LOL!

Nice babies Laura! A couple of those are really light and pretty... I bet they are hets. :)

More mother's day babies! Cool!

Cute babies!

Too bad the male didn't prove out, but I wouldn't give up on him yet. Breeding het to het only gives you a 25% chance per egg of hatching a visible morph. So you should have expected 1 or 2 hypos out of this clutch if he is het. Getting zero out of 7 eggs, even with 2 proven hets, would of course be a disappointment, but it wouldn't be highly unlikely. If my BF's math is correct (we're pretty sure it is, but neither of us are statistics experts), it should happen 13.3% of the time. Getting 7 morph babies, which would happen only 0.006% of the time, is highly unlikely! That's roughly 1 out of 17,000!

In contrast, 13.3% is roughly 1 out of 7 or 1 out of 8. It is very close to 2 out of 15. You could look at it this way. Pretend you have 2 bags of marbles (this represents him being 50% het). In one bag you have 15 marbles, 2 of which are plain, 13 of which are gold-coated (this represents 15 7 egg clutches het x het, in which 13 of those clutches should have at least 1 morph, but 2 of them should be all normals in appearance). One the other bag, you have 15 marbles, all of which are plain (this represents 15 clutches het x non-het, which would give only normal appearing snakes every time). Randomly, you pick a bag. Then you pick out a marble. It is a plain marble. Are you going to throw the bag away assuming it is the bag of all plain marbles? Or are you gonna pull out another marble (try to prove him again next year)?

The only catch is that if you do try again next year, another clutch of 7 eggs could still come out all normal even if he is a het. My marble example makes it seem like if he doesn't prove out next year, he definitely isn't het, but that isn't true, so the marble example only works for this year (unless I change it so much it is just as complex as the original math, which would defeat the point). It would be pretty unlikely at that point though (assuming another 7 egg clutch that hatch out all appearing normal, because het x het to hatch out 14 visible normals would only happen 1.8% of the time).

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I shall name this one "Spoticus" :nerd:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...breeding/5.jpg

What a cute pile of babies! Can't wait for my first ones!:)

AWWWWWWWWW. (sappy female moment).

Yea Cute Faces!!! Good luck with those kids and way to go on a healthy clutch!!

:gj::gj::gj:


Cheers,
Kat

Very cute, congratulations!! :D

Wow! Congrats to your Pile-O-Babies. :gj:

woop woop!!!

Congrats, Laura! What beautiful hatchlings! Have you figured out your gender ratio yet?

cuteness!:sweeet:

Congrats Laura!
You definitely have some nice lookers in there!

Congratulations Laura! Adorable and cute and sweet, and ...... well, you know what I mean! :D

Ghost or not, you have a nice pile of babies there.

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Originally Posted by JASBALLS

... Then what happens to all the possible het and normal males out in the world??..

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Ok
In this clutch ,again there are a lot of possibles.. :D

Awww, they're so cute! I love seeing babies! Congratulations on the clutch, and too bad about that male!

:banana:AWSOME!!!!!!! No better way to celebrate Mothers day than to have new babies!!!!!!!!!:banana:

Thanks Everyone! :grouphug:

Went and sexed these GUYS! Looks like 5.2! :oops: I'll reconfirm after a few good meals... 99.9% sure about the males... :rolleyes: LOL

Here are a few more...
#1 M
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...reeding/1M.jpg
#2 F
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...reeding/2F.jpg
#3 M
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...reeding/3M.jpg
#4 M *little bugger!*
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...reeding/4M.jpg
#5 "Spoticus" M *my fav of the clutch*
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...reeding/5M.jpg
#6 F
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...reeding/6F.jpg
#7 M
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...reeding/7M.jpg

Congrats on the cuties!!!

It looks like they had that pipping party after all. (did you find any of those party hats?) Congrats on the healthy cluch. They have some nice patterns on them. Cue picked out my favorite. :love:

I just love all those spots!! :banana:

Congratz!!! :D

Congrats Laura. They look great. Even if dad didn't prove, you still have a proven breeder 100% Het Hypo female. That is always a valuable snake in my eyes.

super cute, congrats :gj:

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Originally Posted by tigerlily

It looks like they had that pipping party after all. (did you find any of those party hats?) Congrats on the healthy cluch. They have some nice patterns on them. Cue picked out my favorite. :love:

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:8: Yep!!! They prolly stashed them.... ;) A friend was checking them, so I knew the little Boob hatched Sat. pm.... he was all tucked in the baby rack, and the other 6 were waiting Sun afternoon when we got home...
I owe her a GOOD DINNER! :P

That's the best looker of the bunch! He has that nose spot on only one side! lol Super cute!


Thanks everyone for all the kind words! :)

You all ROCK--->:banana:

Sounds like she did good! :gj:

Shame on those babies for not waiting until you got home.... the nerve! :rolleyes:

Congrats on the very cute babies!:gj:
Sorry they didnt prove out.

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Originally Posted by tigerlily

Sounds like she did good! :gj:

Shame on those babies for not waiting until you got home.... the nerve! :rolleyes:

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She did great!!! She raises Corns and Kings... so she completely understood the Egg-angst!!! I KNOW!!! I told you they were waiting to hear the door lock... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

Congrats on the very cute babies!:gj:
Sorry they didnt prove out.

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Thanks Raul!!! I'm chalking it up as experience... I'm just happy they're all fat & sassy! :D

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Originally Posted by Laooda

#4 M *little bugger!*
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c7...reeding/4M.jpg

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Looks like "little bugger" is getting ready to take a bite out of somebody!!! Congrats on the babies! They look great! :gj:

Lol Thanks Louis!!! :D
When I went to remove the "pile"... he struck and hit a clutch mate... :rolleyes: He was dubbed "little bugger" at that point! :oops:

So cute and squishy! Awww!

And bummer about Dad not proving out...except for cute! :P :gj:

Congrats on a nice healthy clutch. Sorry the male did not prove out, but at least he got to try ;)

Neil

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Originally Posted by cassandra

So cute and squishy! Awww!

And bummer about Dad not proving out...except for cute! :P :gj:

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Lol! That's it! We'll just say that he proved out "Cute"... :P

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Originally Posted by aaajohnson

Congrats on a nice healthy clutch. Sorry the male did not prove out, but at least he got to try ;)

Neil

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And he tried his lil' heart out! ;)

Sorry you whiffed on this clutch! Maybe this means you're getting your "bad" breeder luck out of the way early, and will hit your odds next time around!!!

Cute noodles!

:D

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Originally Posted by KLG

Sorry you whiffed on this clutch! Maybe this means you're getting your "bad" breeder luck out of the way early, and will hit your odds next time around!!!

Cute noodles!

:D

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That's EXACTLLY what it is! :D At least I hope... lol

Thanks Kara! :D

Happy Mothers Day!:banana::banana:

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Originally Posted by Aonaen

Happy Mothers Day!:banana::banana:

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Hahaha! Thanks Small Bear! :D

Sweet babies Laura! Congrats!

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Sweet babies Laura! Congrats!

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JAMIE!!!! :D:banana::D


Thanks man! Missed ya! :)