Albino Gator Preview

Here's a quick preview. We are working on a website now and hope to have it completed in the next month or so.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/gallery/...7/neilgreg.jpg


Were going to need a crocodilian forum shortly :D

Those things are awesome...

Absolutely gorgeous. :)

Congrats, Neil!!!

Those are insane looking beauties!!!

Wow, those are awesome! Do you have to keep them out of the sun?

Sweet!:O

I was actually wondering the same thing as Lawrence, do you use shades of some kind for their basking areas?

:tongue2::tongue2::tongue2: Oh WOW!

I love gators, especially albinos, and those two are Superb!! If I get to realize my dream and have that exotics refuge, alligators are definitely going to be number one residents. :D

Those are cool looking Neil :cool:

Those two are gorgeous! :gj:

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Originally Posted by xdeus

Wow, those are awesome! Do you have to keep them out of the sun?

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They have been kept out of the sun most of their lives and there are varying opinions on wether or not it is necessary. Greg and I both believe that UV light is crucial to their long term health. Some believe that their skin may burn in the sun, we think that the white skin will better reflect the light and do not think they will burn. Others have suggested that the sun will damage their eyes. While some adults do appear to have cloudy eyes and I think this could be damage from the sun, I think that it is related to a possible genetic defect in some of the animals, not effecting most individuals. While going over the animals very closely last week, some of the smaller animals pupils did not seem to dilate correctly when transitioning from a dark room to the outdoor sunlight. I think that a small percentage of the animals are born with this problem and that those animals are the ones later in life to develop the "cloudy" eyes.

They will be housed in an outdoor enclosure protected 50/50 from the sun, from shade from both Greg's building and several large oak trees. They will have two separate ponds and always have the option to bask in the sun or lay in the shade.

Thanks for the great info, Neil!

Although I don't necessarily agree with your theory about the white reflecting the sun and preventing skin damage. If that was the case, I wouldn't get burned as easily as I do. :P It could just be that reptiles have a different defense against harmful UV exposure than mammals. BTW, have you ever heard of a reptile getting sunburned or skin cancer?

Wow Neil, They look really good.

Are they from related blood lines?

Dang Neil! Very nice! I finally get to see what your talking about :P You should bring them up for the photo-shoot! Pwetty pwease? :tears:

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Originally Posted by xdeus

Thanks for the great info, Neil!

Although I don't necessarily agree with your theory about the white reflecting the sun and preventing skin damage. If that was the case, I wouldn't get burned as easily as I do. :P It could just be that reptiles have a different defense against harmful UV exposure than mammals. BTW, have you ever heard of a reptile getting sunburned or skin cancer?

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Reptile skin is most definitely different from Mammals. If you look at many reptiles, even iguanas as an example, their skin turns nearly black in the morning to absorb and soak in the heat from the sun yet the skin does not "burn". I do not think that the skin will burn or cause cancer like it does in mammals and I think that the white will reflect more heat than it would if they were sold black thus leaning the chances of burning.

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Wow Neil, They look really good.

Are they from related blood lines?

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More than likely. While I'm not going to go into the long drawn out story of where and how they came about (it will all be detailed on the website shortly). I believe that at the very least they are from the same mother and more than likely the same father.

Andrew, sorry buddy, but she is in florida for good. Most crodilians need atleast a year to aclimate before breeding, so she will be spending all her time down in sunny florida relaxing, hopefully falling in love:D

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Originally Posted by neilgolli

More than likely. While I'm not going to go into the long drawn out story of where and how they came about (it will all be detailed on the website shortly). I believe that at the very least they are from the same mother and more than likely the same father.

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Awesome dude! Look forward to hearing about it. Looks like you two are heading into a good adventure

Wow... those are really hot. Love the pics. Please keep us supplied with pics as they grow.
Do you think that it's the same as BPs, where an albino x albino results in all albino young?

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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound

Wow... those are really hot. Love the pics. Please keep us supplied with pics as they grow.
Do you think that it's the same as BPs, where an albino x albino results in all albino young?

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I think a Het would be more probable in the wild.

wow. those things are crazy. they look like they are made out of ceramic. keep us updated. very cool. very cool.

Thanks everyone for the compliments on them,

Here are a few more pictures Greg uploaded last night.....

http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...o%20Alligators

yeaah thats a dope lookin gator! Imagine the boots he would make!!!!!!!

i mean pet....imagine the pet he would make!!!!! :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

yeaah thats a dope lookin gator! Imagine the boots he would make!!!!!!!

i mean pet....imagine the pet he would make!!!!! :rofl:

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Here's to Boots........



https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...atoreating.jpg

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Originally Posted by neilgolli

Here's to Boots........



https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...atoreating.jpg

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HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hey Neil, I held one in Daytona last year, are they related or the same?
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...lbinogator.jpg

Definately look like good growth if they the same animal.

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

Hey Neil, I held one in Daytona last year, are they related or the same?
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...lbinogator.jpg

Definately look like good growth if they the same animal.

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Raul, the one you held in Daytona last year belong to Don Kaye and is still much smaller than the 3 females that we have. I'm guessing she was around 40 inches or so last year and not all that much bigger now. Our animals are ruffly Male 41 inches and the females are 57, 58 and 59 inches.

so, are these Albis not as agressive, I see everyone just holding them with no mouth tape or anything, do they not bite?

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

so, are these Albis not as agressive, I see everyone just holding them with no mouth tape or anything, do they not bite?

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Don's is pretty good, the larger females (especially mine) are not all that freindly...... They have not ever been held and at their size should have their mouths taped however it does not make for good pictures:D

I'll upload some pictures later in the week of a broken broom and some splashing water :O

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Originally Posted by neilgolli

I'll upload some pictures later in the week of a broken broom and some splashing water :O

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YES!!!!!!! Cant wait.

Great, now I want an albino burm and an albino gator, two large pets I will likely never have the privilege to own. I got a chance to get up close and personal with this girl when a friend from a local reptile zoo/rescue facility (Reptilia) came and visited my college.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/m...a/DSCF0047.jpg

Absolutely gorgeous gators Neil!!!

Looking Good Neil:gj:
I Really Think that this is sweet project......

With these things going for 35k a pop, someone got rich when four were bought

Wow Neil those are sweet... at what age and size are they able to breed? Make sure when you get some babies you bring em down to the columbus show!! In my experience gators make sweet pets and can be reallllly tame... is it just cuz they haven't been handled at all?

ALBINO SNAKES TURTLES AND EVERYTHING ELSE NOW GATORS what is this world coming to pink eyes and white bodies soon everyone is gonna be albino

BTW i love em quiet beautiful wish i could see them in person

absolutely breathtaking......