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  • 05-05-2008, 09:36 PM
    BaLLPAddICT
    i never knew this was possible
    http://www.freewebs.com/royalpython/...ioservices.jpg

    thats so cool, never knew this was possible
  • 05-05-2008, 09:38 PM
    littleindiangirl
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    Oh yea, the paradox. So far not proven to be inheritable, but a random occurance.
  • 05-05-2008, 09:38 PM
    stangs13
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    Its a peridox albino. Happens every once and awhile. Not genetic yet, but hopefully it will!
  • 05-06-2008, 12:16 AM
    Papa Burgundy
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    You could probably buy a house if you sell that thing.

    Sweet look though.
  • 05-06-2008, 01:51 AM
    Thor26
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    ahaha it just sharpie lol jk
  • 05-06-2008, 11:35 AM
    JoshJP7
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    I'm pretty sure someone on here bought that snake... I cant remember who it was but I did see someone who had that picture as their avitar... Heres a pic of my super pastel that has a litte paradox going on...

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil..._1_2_thumb.jpg
  • 05-06-2008, 12:19 PM
    Auletto
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    That snake looks like a hot mess. I'm not a fan.
  • 05-06-2008, 02:29 PM
    soy.lor.n
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JoshJP7 View Post
    I'm pretty sure someone on here bought that snake... I cant remember who it was but I did see someone who had that picture as their avitar... Heres a pic of my super pastel that has a litte paradox going on...

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil..._1_2_thumb.jpg

    lotsa times people just use a picture that looks cool though
    that's why sometimes you see several people with the same avatar
  • 05-06-2008, 08:23 PM
    spix14
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    Interesting snake, for sure. Not something I'd buy, but very neat.
  • 05-06-2008, 08:27 PM
    tideguyinva
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    wow that is pretty crazy
  • 05-06-2008, 08:47 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    Late last year I was going to buy a Reverse Paradox albino, but turned it down. Im wondering if the one shown in this thread would throw any normal looking hets? Or does it still do as albinos normally would?
  • 05-06-2008, 10:08 PM
    FIREball
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    That is EUGENE Bessettes and I saw this girl a month ago and is getting big, she wil be breeding this next season.
  • 05-06-2008, 11:03 PM
    amir
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    There is a form of Paradox that is not as severe looking but is definitely inheritable. It is a dominant trait and was first produced by us in 2004. It is the "Shatter" Ball and has since been crossed with Citrus Pastels and Calicos. The picture is of a 2006 female Citrus Shatterhttp://photos.imageevent.com/ballpyt...e/DSC02201.jpg
    The black pattern varies from snake to snake and covers areas that are usually patternless like the belly and chin of the animal. This year we crossed the adult female Shatter to a male Butter Ghost to produced hets for Paradox Lucys.
  • 05-07-2008, 11:03 AM
    gcanibe
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by amir View Post
    There is a form of Paradox that is not as severe looking but is definitely inheritable. It is a dominant trait and was first produced by us in 2004. It is the "Shatter" Ball and has since been crossed with Citrus Pastels and Calicos. The picture is of a 2006 female Citrus Shatterhttp://photos.imageevent.com/ballpyt...e/DSC02201.jpg
    The black pattern varies from snake to snake and covers areas that are usually patternless like the belly and chin of the animal. This year we crossed the adult female Shatter to a male Butter Ghost to produced hets for Paradox Lucys.

    Really Nice and diferent Snake.......
  • 05-09-2008, 11:04 PM
    PhillyBoyInTN
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleindiangirl View Post
    Oh yea, the paradox. So far not proven to be inheritable, but a random occurance.

    couldnt it possibly be some form of birth defect (from temp flux, etc.)
  • 05-12-2008, 11:54 PM
    amir
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    Actually it is a "birth defect" since it produces a condition that is different than the accepted wild type. That is why it's referred to as a "mutation". However, this happens to be an inheritable mutation that had been repeated in F1 and F2 breedings and has been produced by other people that obtained offspring from this line.
  • 05-13-2008, 12:12 AM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by amir View Post
    Actually it is a "birth defect" since it produces a condition that is different than the accepted wild type. That is why it's referred to as a "mutation". However, this happens to be an inheritable mutation that had been repeated in F1 and F2 breedings and has been produced by other people that obtained offspring from this line.

    Do you know if yours is the only proven genetic one so far? I've seen others with similar pattern and colorings, but figured they were just flukes...
  • 05-13-2008, 12:55 AM
    Bill Buchman
    Re: i never knew this was possible
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by amir View Post
    There is a form of Paradox that is not as severe looking but is definitely inheritable. It is a dominant trait and was first produced by us in 2004. It is the "Shatter" Ball and has since been crossed with Citrus Pastels and Calicos. The picture is of a 2006 female Citrus Shatterhttp://photos.imageevent.com/ballpyt...e/DSC02201.jpg
    The black pattern varies from snake to snake and covers areas that are usually patternless like the belly and chin of the animal. This year we crossed the adult female Shatter to a male Butter Ghost to produced hets for Paradox Lucys.

    Great combo Amir!!!

    An unproven female I have bred to a Bee has just had her pre-lay. I feel good about her being a Shatter. She is small at 1250, but I have had good luck with smaller girls/fertile eggs this year thus far. It's better to be lucky than good sometimes. Love that Citrus Shatter!!!
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