BP does strange twisting movement...

So I have had Kojack for a few months now, since February, and he has seemed to have a strange habit of constantly twisting his head upside down. He looks silly doing it but I don't know if that's a bad sign to something? He turns his head upside down and will do it sometimes for several minutes.

Is the animal in question a spider, the one in your sig? This is a known issue and part of the spider trait. Nothing to worry about, as long as the animal is acting normal in every other way.

Yes he is a spider, thank you so much for your comment! I can stop worrying now lol I have never heard of a trait like that before

My friend's spider does the exact same thing. she said it's just some genetic kink that a lot of spiders have. no worries! :)

its common in spiders sometimes not so noticable sometimes more drastic. some say theyve seen wobbles, corkscrewing, or as you have noticed head tilt. some people think its a flaw others think its part of the charm of the spider either way its fine as long as the bp is eating doing what it needs to do

My spider does it every once in a while. Its very common for spider BPs to act that way, and usually nothing to worry about. I believe some have it worse than others.

I think it's adorable! But at the same time, I'm new to this so I thought it might be bad lol

i think it's the cutest thing ever! i saw my friend's do it, and i was just like.. ok, that was the sweetest thing i've ever seen! haha. It just like cocked it's head up at me all weird and stared for a second, lol.

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I think it's adorable! But at the same time, I'm new to this so I thought it might be bad lol

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I think it largely depends on the individual and how you define 'bad.' I've heard of this trait referred to as "head spinning" and spiders who have the trait, which I reason is a large percentage for it to have its own term, are known as 'spinners.'

As it has been stated, some people think it is a genetic flaw, others find it endearing; so long as he is able to eat and do all of his other snaky things without it interfering with his ability to live and thrive, than you should not worry about it.

There are some rare cases in which the 'spinning' is so severe that the snake can not keep its balance nor can it feed itself. However, in the vast majority of cases 'spinning' is marked only by a slight and occasional wobble, spin, corkscrew, tilt, etc. of the head and nothing more.

Personally, I find it interesting from an analytical standpoint. As far as I know, only Spider morphs are known to possess this trait. Maybe one day we will know the exact reason.

If you go to the BP husbandry forum and search 'spinning' you will find many more threads about this topic.

I think your snake looks beautiful! I hope you both enjoy many years together.

Ya it's when he sits in the water bowl and rests his head upside down on the side of the bowl that freaks me out....He always looks dead, then I go to pick him up and he's still very much alive. But thanks for everyone's comments!

you should try to get a pic sometime and put it up :)

I'll try to do that today! I have videos but I don't know if I can upload them.

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So I have had Kojack for a few months now, since February, and he has seemed to have a strange habit of constantly twisting his head upside down. He looks silly doing it but I don't know if that's a bad sign to something? He turns his head upside down and will do it sometimes for several minutes.

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my spider does it too, and so do I when i drink/dance:snake:

I just realized why it actually worried me that he does the strange dance/twisting/spastic thing that he does...I'm watching him right now actually and he usually does this at night. But what worries me is that he might hurt himself when he loses his balance and falls (not from a branch or anything, just because of gravity its self!). Sometimes it seems like it might hurt! Sometimes I laugh but other times I get concerned. So I'm asking again, normal? Just wanted to clear that up and update his actions and what-not. Thanks!

p.s I still have yet to get a picture of it because he does only seems to do this at night and I only have my camera phone so it gets too dark :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Iop...eature=related
he doesnt do this right?
or this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBHmHgfAlao

those videos almost made me cry. poor things, they look so confused and helpless.

ps-- no hurry on the pics, but i still wanna see the cute lil thing :) besides, they'll help us to know if it's serious or not. :gj:

That is basically what he does.....what does that mean...? :(

oh and how is ali? i saw your post earlier hope she got better

oh no! I just read the youtube title... what is an inclusion body disease???

basically right when you said that my snake could be in danger I did my best to get the best quality picture at this time. please keep in mind that he IS in motion so its hard to capture his exact placement. and its also on a camera phone and i was rushing now im nervous...even if its nothing

http://s279.photobucket.com/albums/k...t=IMG_0084.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...9/IMG_0088.jpg

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always fatal in pythons. Its a neurological disorder from what I gather. I would not just to that. If your worried get that snake away from any others you have and wash your hands very carefully. Remember always deadly but I would not just to that I am sure its just wobbles.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...9/IMG_0085.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...9/IMG_0087.jpg

if anyone has any opinions PLZ let me know i dont want kojack to be in any danger

grab him by the tail and see if he can pull his body up. be careful not to hurt him.

That is so sad...I really hope he doesn't have that...He's my first and only snake. He came from my boyfriends breeder that has a ton of them. I dont know what their living conditions were, however, I think they were pretty adequate. I always wash my hands before and after handling him too

I'm kinda nervous about doing that right now...He's moving a lot doing his usual twisting and such.

I read a little bit about the disease..he doesnt seem to have any of the other symptoms...no regurgitation.. no weight loss..he hasn't eaten in a while but I was just giving him time. And he only MOSTLY does this at night. A lot of the day he is curled in a ball in his hide

It is very likely that it is just spinning and not IBD. How long have you had him?

Since February 9th

In that case I would say you are safe from IBD unless you brought it in from handling another snake. Usually if they have IBD when you buy them, they are dead within a month or so. You have had him for almost 3 months so I wouldnt worry. As long as you dont see any other red flags, its fairly safe to assume its a bad case of wobbles/spinning/etc. Whatever you want to call it, its normal for a spider to behave like that.

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In that case I would say you are safe from IBD unless you brought it in from handling another snake. Usually if they have IBD when you buy them, they are dead within a month or so. You have had him for almost 3 months so I wouldnt worry. As long as you dont see any other red flags, its fairly safe to assume its a bad case of wobbles/spinning/etc. Whatever you want to call it, its normal for a spider to behave like that.

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Thank you so much

can you possibly post a vid on youtube? that would be really helpful. if you need any help on doing that i could help! :P