Dark Morph?

I need some help clearing something up. What is meant when the term Dark Morph is used? Is this actually a gene strand or is it just a random occuring color alteration? If anyone could explain how to identify it would help greatly and pictures are always nice!

Thanks in advance!

i think its meaning as opposed to a light morph like a hypo or pastel....a cinnamon or a super cinny would be considdered a dark morph

Dark: Sable, Cinny, Black Pastel, etc...

or it could be a snake that say when bred to a pastel will darken it up a little

Would you consider Axanthics to be dark morphs?

Good Question. I don't think I would consider an Axanthic a dark morph. Not sure why, but they dont really seem to fit right.

The reason I'm asking is this is our new boy and he is supposedly a proven Dark Morph Genetic Banded Ball Python. I'm just wondering what makes him a "Proven Dark Morph"? Why not just call him a genetic banded reduced patern ball python? I don't see cinnamons called Dark Morph Cinnamons!

http://www.pghpythonproject.com/medi.../dm_banded.jpg

He should make pretty babies and that is our major concern. Just be nice to know exactly what to call the babies depending on the traits passed. Also the banding is supposedly a co-dom so we should have fun trying to make a super form and seeing what it looks like! :D

looks like a normal to me. but im an idiot so....

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http://www.pghpythonproject.com/medi.../dm_banded.jpg

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God that guy is so hot!

DONT EVER REPEAT WHAT I JUST SAID THERE!!!!!:rage::rage::rage:

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

God that guy is so hot!

DONT EVER REPEAT WHAT I JUST SAID THERE!!!!!:rage::rage::rage:

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Now I know why they call you Pattie cakes:)LOL
That is one great lookin bp!

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Originally Posted by waltah!

Now I know why they call you Pattie cakes:)LOL
That is one great lookin bp!

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LMAO!!!!!!!!:8::8::8::8::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::weirdface

Been gone for a while, just found this thread so here goes.

We have a little experience with the dark morphs.

The male we sent you is a proven breeder proven line dark morph co-dom banded. He produced dark morph babies, co-dom banded dark morphs, co-dom bandeds, and normals when bred to a normal.

A dark morph is a melanistic animal that is overall a darker brown color without much of the other colors reg. balls have. We have a few other dark morph animals here and they stand out a little more on the dark morph color being normal pattern.

VERY few dark morphs have been proven, I asked Ian G about them and he said it is very rare to find ones that are reproducible.
Cinnies, black pastels, axanthics, etc are not dark morph animals by the general term, as they are not dark melanistic animals like the "dark morphs", but rather a darker animals with the basic colors that dark morphs lack.

The "malted ball" you might have seen on k.s is a overpriced dark morph animal that is the same idea as the ones we have gotten ( same source too).

I will get some pics of the dark more animals we have for a better idea of what they are. We should have some 08' dark morph babies in to show what the babies look like.

Hope this helps, he is a killer animal with huge potential that is untapped as far as combo potential. A very unknown morph it will be a great project for years to come.

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Originally Posted by jnjreptiles

Been gone for a while, just found this thread so here goes.

We have a little experience with the dark morphs.

The male we sent you is a proven breeder proven line dark morph co-dom banded. He produced dark morph babies, co-dom banded dark morphs, co-dom bandeds, and normals when bred to a normal.

A dark morph is a melanistic animal that is overall a darker brown color without much of the other colors reg. balls have. We have a few other dark morph animals here and they stand out a little more on the dark morph color being normal pattern.

VERY few dark morphs have been proven, I asked Ian G about them and he said it is very rare to find ones that are reproducible.
Cinnies, black pastels, axanthics, etc are not dark morph animals by the general term, as they are not dark melanistic animals like the "dark morphs", but rather a darker animals with the basic colors that dark morphs lack.

The "malted ball" you might have seen on k.s is a overpriced dark morph animal that is the same idea as the ones we have gotten ( same source too).

I will get some pics of the dark more animals we have for a better idea of what they are. We should have some 08' dark morph babies in to show what the babies look like.

Hope this helps, he is a killer animal with huge potential that is untapped as far as combo potential. A very unknown morph it will be a great project for years to come.

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Thanks!!!

He is an awesome snake. He should be fully shed in another day or two and we can't wait to get fresh shed pictures of him. Maybe our untrained eyes will be able to see the difference between the dark morph and a normal once we have babies with him. We are looking at trying to figure out the super form first, but may mix him with some other things probably starting with Pastel and then hopefully later getting the reduced pattern mixed with some recessive traits!

Thanks again for the awesome guy!