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  • 04-12-2008, 12:54 AM
    Theely
    Hello everyone!
    Hello everyone I'm Michael (or Mike it doesn't matter) from St. Paul, MN. This is my Normal Female, Kali (Kah-lee : like cauliflower). :D She is my first BP (and herp for that matter) I just got her yesterday and probably should of gave her a little more time to get settled in before handling and snapping photos but I've been dieing to hold her and take a couple shots ever since I put her in! :P

    Kali on my lap.
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil..._041108_01.jpg

    Kali close up!
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil..._041108_03.jpg

    I can't wait till we BOTH get a little more use to each other. I was a little nervous holding her. This was actually the third time I ever did. First was before the shop keeper put her in a container for me to bring home and the second was when I put her in her tank. :P
    I just don't want to hurt her... which is my mainly way of saying I'm a little nervous of getting bit! :P

    Anyways we just thought that we would say hi and we look forward to good times in the forums!

    Thanks!
    Mike & Kali
  • 04-12-2008, 01:00 AM
    bsd13
    Re: Hello everyone!
    Nice snake.

    Some people tell you that you have to let them settle in for a week or so, but personally I think it depends on the snake. If they're getting stressed out then by all means let them settle. If not take it easy but don't stress too much over it.

    As far as getting bit, not really a big deal. It'll happen so fast you won't even realize it until you see the blood. Besides you'd be lucky to get most ball pythons to bite you to begin with.
  • 04-12-2008, 01:07 AM
    Theely
    Re: Hello everyone!
    Well thats good to know about the bites!

    I'll still take it very easy on her. Its was over 24 hours before I took her out for those photos so I'll most likely just leave her be until I try feeding her on Monday or Tuesday.
  • 04-12-2008, 01:18 AM
    BMorrison
    Re: Hello everyone!
    Welcome to the forum. You'll find this place to be really friendly and informative.. oh and ADDICTING!

    Congrats on the little girl. Very nice.
  • 04-12-2008, 01:57 AM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: Hello everyone!
    Congrats! :sweeet:
  • 04-12-2008, 09:05 AM
    FL0OD
    Re: Hello everyone!
    :welcome:, nice snake :gj:
  • 04-12-2008, 09:20 AM
    missi182
    Re: Hello everyone!
    Congrats! Good idea to leave her alone and feed her on tues, then make sure you do not handle her for at least 48 hours after feeding.

    If you would like some positive feedback on your set-up and enclosure for your new girl, please feel free to share with us your husbandry such as temperatures, humidity, what you use to measure temps and humidity, enclosure size/what type of enclosure you use, and what you have inside her enclosure.

    Also if you haven't already, check out our care sheets and other stickies on ball-python care.

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/f...splay.php?f=62

    Hope to see you around here!
  • 04-12-2008, 11:39 AM
    SnakieMom
    Re: Hello everyone!
    She's a pretty girl! Love the name, btw, as I have a girl named Kali too! :D (she's in my av ;) )

    I def. agree with the 'settling period' where she's left alone around a week. I know it's hard to resist that cute little face,
    but in the long run, with proper husbandry and the advice of the great people here, you'll have a very rewarding relationship with Kali. :)
  • 04-12-2008, 12:37 PM
    Theely
    Re: Hello everyone!
    Yeah, now that I've been reading more and more I'm starting to doubt my husbandry and I'm going to need make some changes :(

    Here is what I have so far with reasonings.
    * 55gal. Tank. w/ Mesh cover - its what I had.

    * UTH that covers 1/3 of the tank.

    * 1 - 100watt infrared bulb

    * 1 - 60 watt infrared bulb - both close to the same area for basking and gradient heat.

    * 2 - hides, warm and cold side unfortunately not identical :( since I just read that was important. I have seen her use both though. She is in the cooler side a lot more though (more on this soon)

    * 1 - large rock looking water dish - to let it soak if it wants and to waist space. Half placed over UTH area half not.

    *2 - large grape vine chunks to provide rub and take up area

    * indoor/outdoor soft fine carpet for substrate, cut into three pieces for semi-quick swapping with a new clean piece when soiled. I plan on reusing soiled pieces have soaking and cleaning. I have no problem switching to aspen or whatever the other is called. I prefer a dark substrate though.

    * I have learned that I have poor temp reading tools. I have a dial therm on the warm side an inch and a half above the floor and a sticky on the cool side half ways up the tank. The dial is reading 90 on the warm side and the worthless sticky is reading either 78 or 82 on the cool side. I'm heading up to wal-mart to get a digital shortly! I think she stays on the cool side because the warm side might be to warm!

    * No humidity reading! Don't hurt me! Said tool from wal-mart will read that. The store owner side I wouldn't have to worry if I included a wet-hide. Which I haven't added yet :( When I do though, what do you guys suggest? I still plan on reading tank humidity, I just want to provide a wet-hide as well.

    * 2 - long fake leafy vines that inside the tank along the side and front.

    One last question, when should I go about making these changes (sticking my hands in to apply probes and whatnot) since she new here? I don't want her to get even more stressed then they probably is! :confused:

    Thanks for the warm welcomes! Here is a pic of the tank.

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...tank_setup.jpg
  • 04-12-2008, 12:50 PM
    Venenito_X_Remedito
    Re: Hello everyone!
    Hello Mike! Welcome to the forums, everybody here is very friendly and helpful, as you'll come to find. Congrats on your first herp, I hope you two get really close to each other :) She's a very pretty girl.

    Minnesota? :) Me too! Where'd you get Kali?
  • 04-12-2008, 12:54 PM
    Theely
    Re: Hello everyone!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Venenito_X_Remedito View Post
    Minnesota? :) Me too! Where'd you get Kali?

    Woot! I got her at Twin Cities Reptile. I thought I read that they seemed to be a good place for herps for being a pet store. Staff was very friendly as well.
  • 04-12-2008, 01:43 PM
    missi182
    Re: Hello everyone!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Theely View Post
    Yeah, now that I've been reading more and more I'm starting to doubt my husbandry and I'm going to need make some changes :(

    Here is what I have so far with reasonings.
    * 55gal. Tank. w/ Mesh cover - its what I had.

    * UTH that covers 1/3 of the tank.

    * 1 - 100watt infrared bulb

    * 1 - 60 watt infrared bulb - both close to the same area for basking and gradient heat.

    * 2 - hides, warm and cold side unfortunately not identical :( since I just read that was important. I have seen her use both though. She is in the cooler side a lot more though (more on this soon)

    * 1 - large rock looking water dish - to let it soak if it wants and to waist space. Half placed over UTH area half not.

    *2 - large grape vine chunks to provide rub and take up area

    * indoor/outdoor soft fine carpet for substrate, cut into three pieces for semi-quick swapping with a new clean piece when soiled. I plan on reusing soiled pieces have soaking and cleaning. I have no problem switching to aspen or whatever the other is called. I prefer a dark substrate though.

    * I have learned that I have poor temp reading tools. I have a dial therm on the warm side an inch and a half above the floor and a sticky on the cool side half ways up the tank. The dial is reading 90 on the warm side and the worthless sticky is reading either 78 or 82 on the cool side. I'm heading up to wal-mart to get a digital shortly! I think she stays on the cool side because the warm side might be to warm!

    * No humidity reading! Don't hurt me! Said tool from wal-mart will read that. The store owner side I wouldn't have to worry if I included a wet-hide. Which I haven't added yet :( When I do though, what do you guys suggest? I still plan on reading tank humidity, I just want to provide a wet-hide as well.

    * 2 - long fake leafy vines that inside the tank along the side and front.

    One last question, when should I go about making these changes (sticking my hands in to apply probes and whatnot) since she new here? I don't want her to get even more stressed then they probably is! :confused:

    Thanks for the warm welcomes! Here is a pic of the tank.

    Good for you to recognize some important changes already!! The "wet" hide suggested is usually used during a shed, and is actually a "moist" hide. You don't really need this but it can help during a shed. Once you learn how to identify the beginning of a shed cycle, if you want you can put a moist hide in (basically a container filled with lightly dampened sphagnum moss or even paper towel)

    The humidity in your tank should be 50-60%, and you may discover once you start measuring humidity, that it is too low with the two lamps you have. I would suggest with a tank that big either use just the one 60 watt bulb or even a 70 watt on the cool side, then cover the screen with a few layers of foil leaving space for the lamp, to keep warmth in.

    Is your UTH plugged into a control? By control I mean a rheostat or a thermostat. A rheostat controls the temp of the UTH with a manual dial or slider (like a lamp dimmer) while a thermostat (which is a little more expensive but more reliable) automatically adjusts the temperature for you. UTH's can easily reach 120 degrees un-controlled and once you get the digital thermometer with a probe, you can measure that direct surface temp under the warm hide in your tank.

    As you noticed in another thread already, do not use tape inside the tank on ANYTHING. Thats a good way to end up with a very angry bp with some missing scales.

    You can change everything right away, because although your bp is still getting "settled in" you want her to settle into a tank with proper husbandry right off the start. When you are changing everything, you can take her out and put her in a container so she does not escape, but make sure she is somewhere warm and not in the container for more than approx 1 hour.

    You should have identical hides, so if you are looking to fix that today as well, you don't have to break the bank, just buy 2 identical plastic bowls, cut out an entrance in them, and flip them over. You could also you flower pots or margarine containers.

    Keep asking questions, your doing great!!
  • 04-12-2008, 06:05 PM
    Venenito_X_Remedito
    Re: Hello everyone!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Theely View Post
    Woot! I got her at Twin Cities Reptile. I thought I read that they seemed to be a good place for herps for being a pet store. Staff was very friendly as well.

    I've only been there once but it was a very enjoyable experience! I was amazed at all of the gorgeous snakes they have there!

    I saw a beautiful female pastel and I'm looking into buying her :P
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