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Blurry Balls?

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  • 04-11-2008, 12:52 AM
    Beardedragon
    Blurry Balls?
    Ive been seeing a few blurry balls lately by users and was wondering what they are? I can tell that there is something different about them, but what makes a blurry a blurry? Is it a dominate trait? Thanks, Matt
  • 04-11-2008, 02:00 AM
    jknudson
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    Blurry balls are well... blurry...
  • 04-11-2008, 02:02 AM
    Monty
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    lol @Jknudson it has to do with the way the white and blacks blend together in the flames from what ive seen maybe someone with more knowledge about them will post
  • 04-11-2008, 02:19 AM
    jknudson
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Monty View Post
    lol @Jknudson it has to do with the way the white and blacks blend together in the flames from what ive seen maybe someone with more knowledge about them will post

    ....its not that complex.... Blurry balls differ from a wild-type animal because whereas a wild-type will have clean pattern distinction between the brown alien heads and black background a blurry will be muddied together with zig-zagged type lines if you will.

    The snakes pattern edges "blurs" together essentially...

    Jon Courtney has posted one of the nicest examples I've seen...
    http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ghlight=blurry

    If you look at that and still don't get it....good luck!:rolleyes:
  • 04-11-2008, 02:24 AM
    Monty
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    ok so you put it in better words then i could
  • 04-11-2008, 02:24 AM
    JKBReptiles
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Beardedragon View Post
    Ive been seeing a few blurry balls lately by users and was wondering what they are? I can tell that there is something different about them, but what makes a blurry a blurry? Is it a dominate trait? Thanks, Matt

    So far neither recessive nor co-dom genetics have been proven and they have been around a long time.
  • 04-11-2008, 02:25 AM
    Monty
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JKBReptiles View Post
    So far neither recessive nor co-dom genetics have been proven and they have been around a long time.

    so could it be an anomaly like the paradox
  • 04-11-2008, 02:30 AM
    JKBReptiles
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Monty View Post
    so could it be an anomaly like the paradox

    There is a lot of special looks that are random in ball pythons, Paradox is two genes that are supposed to be turned off, turning on at the same time kind of fighting against each other during the early stages of development so I would say that no Blurry is not like paradoxing more like the original jungle's that just seem to pop out randomly. But there needs to be more breeding done because you never know what will pop out eventually.
  • 04-11-2008, 02:31 AM
    Monty
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    so now its in the trial and error stages of finding out the genetics
  • 04-11-2008, 02:35 AM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Blurry Balls?
  • 04-11-2008, 02:38 AM
    sssnake
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    Thats an awesome looking snake Lady Ohh.

    Kyle
  • 04-11-2008, 02:39 AM
    Monty
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    wow its beautiful it looks blurry to my eyes just looking at it could just be the focus on some points great pic and awesome blurry i was loooking at one recently at the hamburg pa show and fell in love with it but wasnt about to pay 600 for it
  • 04-11-2008, 02:45 AM
    JKBReptiles
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    Nice Heather... I hope eventually one of the Blurries does prove but so it's been snake eyes on all tables...
  • 04-11-2008, 02:47 AM
    jknudson
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JKBReptiles View Post
    Nice Heather... I hope eventually one of the Blurries does prove but so it's been snake eyes on all tables...

    I really do believe there have been proven codominant blurries...if I'm not mistaken.:confused:
  • 04-11-2008, 02:52 AM
    JKBReptiles
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    The closest I know of is Blurry bred back to son and the results were no blurry babies, now that doesn't mean that it won't turn blurry over time. The hets never turned blurry either so it's doubtful it's a codom. I have seen blurry balls come in since the early 90's and that's a long time for them to be around and so far no definitive genetics have happened to my knowledge.
  • 04-11-2008, 02:56 AM
    jknudson
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JKBReptiles View Post
    The closest I know of is Blurry bred back to son and the results were no blurry babies, now that doesn't mean that it won't turn blurry over time. The hets never turned blurry either so it's doubtful it's a codom. I have seen blurry balls come in since the early 90's and that's a long time for them to be around and so far no definitive genetics have happened to my knowledge.

    I thought Ian had proven the trait. Anyways, maybe JnJ will have some insight since he's selling "codom" blurry balls...
  • 04-11-2008, 02:59 AM
    JKBReptiles
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    Did you ever see the Extreme Blurry it looked Blurry JnJ's don't look very blurry but they are cool... I would hate if that is the snake that takes the name..
  • 04-11-2008, 03:06 AM
    JKBReptiles
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jknudson View Post
    I thought Ian had proven the trait. Anyways, maybe JnJ will have some insight since he's selling "codom" blurry balls...

    Also were are the baby Pics?? I'd like to see some photographic proof on the babies..:cool:
  • 04-11-2008, 07:16 AM
    rabernet
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  • 04-11-2008, 09:19 AM
    josh@outbackreps
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    We have co-dom banded males that are genetic blurry too.

    The blurry gene is recessive on proven lines, these males were produced and proven by Ian G.

    As many of you who have gotten animals from us know, our pics do no justice for most of our animals, no matter how hard we try the camera just dont pick it up.

    There are not a lot of proven lines of blurries that I know of, Ian has a line or 2, and Mike Cole proved his out as recessive too.

    I have a local client who bought some blurry type animals, the male looked like he was on fire, reddish orange, and blurry, and the female was a blurry vanilla looking animal ... that we should have a clutch from this season from her bred to that male to see if they prove.

    I will try to get some better pics of the blurry co-dom banded males, and post them.
  • 04-11-2008, 04:26 PM
    JKBReptiles
    Re: Blurry Balls?
    Rabernet,

    What makes that a Blurry?
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