Is this a carpet?

Someone is trying to get me to adopt this snake and based on the pictures I've seen it looks like a carpet python, but they're telling me it is a burmese. What do you folks think?

And please remember this isn't my snake and I have NOTHING to do with the condition of its living quarters (which are atrocious to say the least). Thanks!

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Jungle Carpet...
BT

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Originally Posted by BT41042

Jungle Carpet...
BT

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Thanks! Now I just need to figure out a way to get it from those people.

Is that a potato in there?

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

Is that a potato in there?

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I've not actually seen the animal yet or the setup, but I think that's the heat rock they mentioned it having when I spoke with them. Apparently it is a tenant abandonment situation.

poor thing, that tank is disgusting. I would try and get it from them asap

BT nailed it! :D Jungle carpet.

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Originally Posted by ClairvoyantDisease

poor thing, that tank is disgusting. I would try and get it from them asap

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Well I just made an offer of $50.00 for it without anything except the snake. They're taking it to a friend who is apparently an expert on snakes to make sure it is a JCP and not a Burmese. I told her the offer was the same either way, $50.00. Especially since it's clearly going to need some money invested into it as far as health goes.

Pray they'll be agreeable to my "terms"

i would really hope they wouldnt turn down an offer, all things considered. they should be giving it to you for free in my opinion... although i don't know all the circumstances.
good luck if you do get it - i'd bet money it'll brighten up with some better care.

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Originally Posted by kzooherpetoculturist

i would really hope they wouldnt turn down an offer, all things considered. they should be giving it to you for free in my opinion... although i don't know all the circumstances.
good luck if you do get it - i'd bet money it'll brighten up with some better care.

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They have at this point turned down my offer of $50.00. They had a reptile "specialist" friend come and look at it and were told it markets for between $200 and $250 depending on male or female. I explained to her on the phone that she may or may not get more than $50 for it, but all things considered that's all I was willing to offer.

The last email I responded to said the offer had to be at least $200. I responded by saying if you drop it to $50 give me a call. I don't want to judge their intentions, but I think they're seeing dollar signs at this point, because originally they just wanted to get rid of it.

Am I wrong in only offering $50.00 or am I prudent in thinking it could quite possibly require some medical treatment among other things and isn't exactly a high dollar value animal based on what is known of the snake?

I think 50 is a stretch, the conditions are horrible to say the least.


not to mention that their walls are a hideous color blue!!!!

i would offer $20. and the vet bill would prolly wind up being about 75 - 150. then you would have to go and buy new hides unless the carpet were in good condition and the husbandry was all good then yea i could see 200 - 250 but 50 is about as high as i would go

They're not interested in $50.00 for it at all. In fact because they say I lied apparently they have no interest in it going to me either way.

She said she got an email from someone who knew I made an offer and said I wasn't to be trusted and the proof was that I told her they were common and worth less than burmese. I honestly don't recall discussing the value of the animal against the value of a burmese just what I was willing to offer for that particular snake she is/was offering. I also told her she could quite possibly get more than I was willing to pay.

So basically someone from here (because this is the only place I've mentioned this situation) contacted her, called me a liar and told her I wasn't to be trusted. Anyone want to fess up?

Either that or she never got an email and made it up.

Either way I invited her to participate in the thread so she can see I have nothing to hide.

What comes will come and what is to be is to be I suppose.

thats pretty beat if someone seriously did that but i think she made that part up cuz who could have emailed her that quick off this forum if no one knows who she is. and all we have is a pic

well she seems like a real sharp crayon anyways. Just let it role dude, there will be bigger better things to come. You dont want to get yourself into that, especially if she is going to be like that first off.

people out for the cash dont seem to be intelligent do they?......pfff burmese $#^#$&#&**$

that sucks. greed sucks.

good luck in rescuing the snake :gj:

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Originally Posted by Monty

thats pretty beat if someone seriously did that but i think she made that part up cuz who could have emailed her that quick off this forum if no one knows who she is. and all we have is a pic

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It's a Craig's List ad in my area so it isn't unthinkable that someone could have figured it out.

In fact here's the ad: http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/pet/634640140.html

Edit: It's after 11pm where she lives so please don't call her tonight about it.

Just in case someone is willing to pay what they're asking and give it a good home. If I could I would.

@Patrick Long

That's sage advice my friend. It just bothers me that she's gotten it into her head that I'm a liar out to rip her off. But you're right...

yea see im not a big craigs list person so i woulda never seen that

Im sending a friendly e-mail to inform her of the disgusting nature of that tank and anyone willing to "buy" that snake from her would be an idiot (your not an idiot, I just want to get the point across) because it will need $100's of dollars in medical attention potentially and could easily die after someone purchases it. I will post what I send.

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Originally Posted by missi182

Im sending a friendly e-mail to inform her of the disgusting nature of that tank and anyone willing to "buy" that snake from her would be an idiot (your not an idiot, I just want to get the point across) because it will need $100's of dollars in medical attention. I will post what I send.

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Lol, well I don't want to harass the lady into giving in to me. In fact I'm pretty well convinced she'll see it dead before I'll hear from her about it. But hey if that's what you honestly believe needs to be said then I guess it is your right to send an email to her.

Craig's List is a funny place. I've seen mutts... again that's MUTTS (with a "M") advertised on Craig's List for hundreds of dollars. It used to be when you had an animal that needed a home you were willing to just give it away no matter how much (or little) it was worth. Hell, where I come from you PAY people to take in a rescue you don't expect to get paid for it. But oh well what can you do. That's how Craig's List seems to function.

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Lol, well I don't want to harass the lady into giving in to me. In fact I'm pretty well convinced she'll see it dead before I'll hear from her about it. But hey if that's what you honestly believe needs to be said then I guess it is your right to send an email to her.

Craig's List is a funny place. I've seen mutts... again that's MUTTS (with a "M") advertised on Craig's List for hundreds of dollars. It used to be when you had an animal that needed a home you were willing to just give it away no matter how much (or little) it was worth. Hell, where I come from you PAY people to take in a rescue you don't expect to get paid for it. But oh well what can you do. That's how Craig's List seems to function.

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I haven't sent anything yet, and I sent you a PM of my msg first:) I am polite :)

One last thing regarding this - I've gotten a few pms from well intentioned folks wanting to contact her about not being willing to take $50.00 for it and what a horrible "parent" she is. I wanted to clear up that this isn't a case of her doing badly with her own snake, a tenant of their abandoned it. I put that in the 2nd or 3rd post I made in this thread, but thought it should be further cleared up.

Please don't harass her either via phone or email unless you are honestly interested in the snake. It won't change her mind and is likely just to annoy her (I know it would me). But I thank everyone for the support and the offers of support in this situation. She has every right to ask whatever she wants to ask for the snake.

On a side note, I am amazed at how many reptile related pet ads there are... :omfg: You rarely see anything out here, but everyother ad on that list IS!!!!!!

that's sadly amusing... it came to their possesion free of charge, and now they want to make a quick buck... what a world we live in.

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Originally Posted by Gooseman

that's sadly amusing... it came to their possesion free of charge, and now they want to make a quick buck... what a world we live in.

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In all fairness she's trying to recover part of the damages that her tenant left her with by selling the snake. I don't know what the snake has to do with the damages, but I'll help her recover $50.00 of it. Which isn't really anything at all, but it's better than nothing.

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

On a side note, I am amazed at how many reptile related pet ads there are... :omfg: You rarely see anything out here, but everyother ad on that list IS!!!!!!

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No kidding huh. Most of the time they're emancipated normal ball pythons that people are trying to sell for as much as a spider would go for.

your a good man on that half that you know the situtation of the snake. and what happened. yea around here you have to pay the animal shelters to take animals. so i think if someone really wanted and animal to go to a good home and someone was willing to take it besides a rescue then a fee of free would be nice. theres a place here not to get off topic but only shelters iggy's and if you cant handle your iggy anymore you have to pay them 150 dollars for them to take it cuz they have no room and they need all the money they can get to expand and its only 50 dollars to adopt the iggys. i was doing a foster thing for them not the long ago. before it got into bps. i miss my iggys rip sam rex and godzilla. sorry for the high jack.

thats one heck of a contract she had with her tenant if she can't legally charge him/her for damages... where can I find one?

I understand the $50 dollars, but trying to sell at market price when they got it free of charge is rediculous.

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Originally Posted by Gooseman

thats one heck of a contract she had with her tenant if she can't legally charge him/her for damages... where can I find one?

I understand the $50 dollars, but trying to sell at market price when they got it free of charge is rediculous.

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I don't know anything about the legal situation or the tenant situation. I'll just hazard to guess that the tenant simply disappeared without a trace rather than face the consequences of the damage she had done to the place.

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Originally Posted by Monty

your a good man on that half that you know the situtation of the snake. and what happened. yea around here you have to pay the animal shelters to take animals. so i think if someone really wanted and animal to go to a good home and someone was willing to take it besides a rescue then a fee of free would be nice. theres a place here not to get off topic but only shelters iggy's and if you cant handle your iggy anymore you have to pay them 150 dollars for them to take it cuz they have no room and they need all the money they can get to expand and its only 50 dollars to adopt the iggys. i was doing a foster thing for them not the long ago. before it got into bps. i miss my iggys rip sam rex and godzilla. sorry for the high jack.

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Sadly most people will either kill the animal or just let it loose before they'll pay for a shelter to take them in. My sister runs a humane society and they have a $25 intake fee but no one ever pays it. They just leave the animals chained up to the fence and sometimes they kill them and leave them on the front steps with a note complaining about the fee

thats really sad that there are people like that in the world and it sickens me i wish i could own a ranch and just take in all the unwanted uncared for animals in the world. i member when i was a kid and brought home 4 stray dogs 3 stray cats a turtle and a baby squirrel home my parents are angry with me lol those were the days. but serious i would do something like that. where you know what you dont care about the animals anymore itll have 10 acres to run around on and other animals to play with and they will be my pets ill live in the country side. people can send donations or what have you but i would do it out of love for the animals.

To all the people who would like to judge me without knowing my story about the snake you are hypocrites.It was not my snake and I have nothing to do with the way it is living.I am afraid of snakes and that is why the living conditions have not been changed from the way the tenant left it.I have bought it food and given it water but I don't know really much about snakes so I really can not do much more for it.If you people want to be such saviors than you are more than welcome to come to the house and do what needs to be done to the tank to make it livable.She left us with well over $2000 worth of disgusting mess and damage and if you think the living conditions of the snake are made you should see the living conditions she had her 2 year old daughter who has seizure disorders living in which I am a little bit more concerned about.She abandoned the apartment and left no forwarding address and I don't know if any of you hypocrites are landlords and actually own property but we have no rights it will cost more than she owes us to bring her to court to get the money back thats if she would even end up obeying the court order and pay us because she can not be put in jail for it the worst she gets is bad credit .If you would like to see her living conditions I also have plenty of pics of that if you even care about a human being and not just the snake.Do you people know how hard it is to pay 2 mortgages and then some and have a slime bag destroy your property then have to pour more money into it.I am not being greedy I have a family to feed and I don't expect top dollar for the snake but I can get more than $50 for it.That won't even fill up my gas tank.$$ signs are not in my eyes my sone is and thats more important.Now that I am done trying to explain myself which I should never had to.TO PATTY CAKES the wall color was not my choice the scumbag tenant painted it that color maybe you she be more worried about buying some hair relaxer.Also as for someone emailing me about not trusting BROOK DURANT I am not a liar that is the truth I will not give the name because he was just trying to help but I can copy and paste exactly what he wrote to me if it concerns you so much.I DON"T LIE

I understand the situation you are in and I do not believe that everyone here thinks you are a horrible person for what has happened. This community is very dedicated to reptiles but there are many of us that can understand where you are coming from. If you do not receive any offers soon, please consider the offer brook made. I know you are trying to recoup some losses, but you will not get anything for that snake if it dies.

I do not know why someone would say you should not sell this animal to Brook, but that information is at your discretion to believe or dismiss. I do feel badly for you and the horrible situation you have been put in, but that does not make you the bad guy in any way. I wish you the best of luck in dealing with this tenant and hope that she will eventually grow up and take on some responsibility, or that someone recognizes the danger her daughter is in a calls child services.

While I can understand and feel for the landlord in this situation (having had to be on their end in the past), that is no reason to continue taking it out on the animal.

Instead of trying to make money off of it and keeping it in horrid conditions, call the local Herp Society. They most likely have a foster/rescue program and will take the snake to make sure it is properly cared for and checked by a vet.

Just because this tenant left with money owed is no reason to keep an animal in conditions like this.

Unfortunately I know a lot more about deadbeat tenants than most people. However, I would never hold an animal hostage to try to recoup a few extra bucks. If you don't get any better offers for the snake, I encourage you to place it with the $50 offer. Though I do not know that person, I do know that he (she?) will get the support they need to give the snake the best chance at a comfortable life.

The problem is understood. But in the end the animal looks sick and is in an unhealthy living situation. I understand your fear of snakes and that you feel uncomfortable changing it, but unfortunately it is just adding to the abuse the animal is already suffering. Not to mention if its only means of heat is a heat rock which can be extremely dangerous and does NOT provide proper heating. I'm not saying taking the 50 dollar will or wont be better for the animal. But as of now the animal is in your care. Do the responsible thing for it. Maybe the local SPCA or a reptile rescue would be willing to help you out.

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

It was not my snake and I have nothing to do with the way it is living.

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It may not have been your snake, but you have everything to do with the way it is living NOW. The snake is not your "slimebag" tenants or an extension thereof, and it is despicable to make a living animal suffer needlessly, as you seem set on doing in order to recoup losses with no concern for the wellbeing of the animal.

As for your 2 mortgages, neither the snake or we are responsible for your choice to become a slum-lord at the expense of your family's fiscal security. As such, your position is not being helped by either keeping this animal in deplorable conditions until what you feel is an adequate offer is made, or ranting about the results of your bad decision making abilities while calling us hypocrites.

Give the snake to someone who cares, you obviously don't.

I agree. If you are unable to care for the snake, and the animal was abandoned, give it to a foster/rescue center. You are in possession of the animal, and the conditions it is living in is near abuse.

It would be the right thing to accept a humble amount for the snake that you have no desire or experience to keep, or to give it to a shelter for another family to take in and nurse.

Some of you made good points but I have only had this snake in my possession for a couple of days so I am not holding it hostage.I have someone coming to look at it tonight who is willing to pay more for it.Which whatever he offers I am giving it to him.So everyone can calm down.I am a good person and care about all living things and never want them to suffer but you also have to understand where I am coming from to give an unbiased point of view before you start judging me.I would have never joined this thread and registered if I didn't care what people were saying and I didn't care period but I am educating myself on this issue and listening to other peoples point of view unlike some people here who just jumped to a judgment about me.

Also how in anyway does it make me a slum-lord I am a very good landlord and attend to any concerns my tenants ever have.It is not my fault if they never called me on anything because they never wanted for me to see there living conditions.Do you know how many syringes I had to pick up and scum I had to clean.They go in the apartment giving false references that I have no idea that they are false when I am checking on them.Who the hell are you to call me a slum-lord.What the hell do you own thats of any value your snakes WOW!!!

Please don't get offensive by what people say. Yes, some are just venting because they have probably run in to a situation where the person has had it under their care for years and its a disgusting environment. We understand your point of trying to get some money worth to go for the damages. The people who just up and left are the one in the wrong in this case. Some people may be a bit offended because you are using the snake to make profit. Thats all. We all hope you do find someone who is willing to purchase it and give it a good home. We want it to end with everyone being happy.:D

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Also how in anyway does it make me a slum-lord I am a very good landlord and attend to any concerns my tenants ever have.It is not my fault if they never called me on anything because they never wanted for me to see there living conditions.Do you know how many syringes I had to pick up and scum I had to clean.They go in the apartment giving false references that I have no idea that they are false when I am checking on them.Who the hell are you to call me a slum-lord.What the hell do you own thats of any value your snakes WOW!!!

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Lashing out at people here when your name was never given, nor your image or persona, isn't needed in my opinion. You were completely anonymous, having only a craigslist ad to trace to you.

I don't see why you feel the need to continue to post such responses when you are still mostly anonymous. If you think your going to teach someone a lesson, remember that you are posting on a very public forum visited by people from around the world.

As much as you want your words to sink in to others, your also doing yourself a disfavor by continuing to promote yourself in the manner that isn't flattering and most likely doesn't reflect what kind of person you truly are.

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

TO PATTY CAKES the wall color was not my choice the scumbag tenant painted it that color maybe you she be more worried about buying some hair relaxer.

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what?!?!?! hahaha hair relaxer LOL Im bald as a mofo lady. You be trippin.

There is no need to attack people here, you obviously do not know what your doing, hell you thought it was a burm, yet you are trying to squeeze every penny out of that snake, which you obviously do not care about.

Dont throw your pitty land lord crap at us, we dont want to hear that.

Oh Im going to email you that says the guy that is coming tonight is not trustable either, and your going to believe it right.....pathetic.

actually since you must know it all than you know its not just an ad my phone number is listed and I have gotten prank phone calls and threats from people.My Full name is also said on my phone so people do know who I am.Like I have said don't assume it makes an ass out of u and me

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

What the hell do you own thats of any value your snakes WOW!!!

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wow, who's narrow minded, hypocritical, and completely inept now??

reptiles are a hobby, yes, but we're real people with jobs and houses and rental properties as well. :colbert:

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

actually since you must know it all than you know its not just an ad my phone number is listed and I have gotten prank phone calls and threats from people.My Full name is also said on my phone so people do know who I am.Like I have said don't assume it makes an ass out of u and me

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That was your choice to post your name and phone online, and if people feel the need to prank call you, that has nothing to do with this community or it's values.

I would kindly ask you to stop with the abrasive responses again, but you seem to neither care nor want to stop. This must be amusing for you no?

I find it vain of you to think a thread on a reptile enthusiast website will have any cumulative effect on your non-reptile life. You are not a breeder, keeper, or enthusiast of any sort.

Your acting much like a forum troll now. You may have come to save your name, but since you have posted nothing but insults, I don't think your accomplishing anything but painting a rotten picture of yourself with your own words.

You know lady, after reading your posts, I think I can officially say that you would be a terrible landlord. If this is what gets you all wriled up.........I can only imagine......thank god you live in boston!

actually sweetie I was told to come here by the original poster of this thread it is all about my situation and me not you there are other threads on here you can make about you if you need the attention and the only nasty things I have said on here were to nasty responses that I have gotten about my situation.Of course I am naturally going to respond back.I have also said nice things and I was on here to educate myself about the situation and get some advice from people who would like to be a little understanding about my situation not from know it alls like yourself who just need some attention and have nothing else to do.If you don't like me on here the thread about me and my snake then go somewhere else.Nastiness is returned only with nasiness.

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

Who the hell are you to call me a slum-lord.

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Just calling a spade a spade based on your statements.

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

What the hell do you own thats of any value your snakes WOW!!!

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Actually, yes, the collection is worth quite a bit, along with my property, vehicles, businesses, etc. At no point would I let any of my investments risk my family's financial well-being though, nor would I keep an animal in deplorable conditions over a pittance of a couple hundred bucks if I were unable or unwilling to care for it properly.

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Originally Posted by horrible snake lady

To all the people who would like to judge me without knowing my story about the snake you are hypocrites.It was not my snake and I have nothing to do with the way it is living.I am afraid of snakes and that is why the living conditions have not been changed from the way the tenant left it.I have bought it food and given it water but I don't know really much about snakes so I really can not do much more for it.If you people want to be such saviors than you are more than welcome to come to the house and do what needs to be done to the tank to make it livable.She left us with well over $2000 worth of disgusting mess and damage and if you think the living conditions of the snake are made you should see the living conditions she had her 2 year old daughter who has seizure disorders living in which I am a little bit more concerned about.She abandoned the apartment and left no forwarding address and I don't know if any of you hypocrites are landlords and actually own property but we have no rights it will cost more than she owes us to bring her to court to get the money back thats if she would even end up obeying the court order and pay us because she can not be put in jail for it the worst she gets is bad credit .If you would like to see her living conditions I also have plenty of pics of that if you even care about a human being and not just the snake.Do you people know how hard it is to pay 2 mortgages and then some and have a slime bag destroy your property then have to pour more money into it.I am not being greedy I have a family to feed and I don't expect top dollar for the snake but I can get more than $50 for it.That won't even fill up my gas tank.$$ signs are not in my eyes my sone is and thats more important.Now that I am done trying to explain myself which I should never had to.TO PATTY CAKES the wall color was not my choice the scumbag tenant painted it that color maybe you she be more worried about buying some hair relaxer.Also as for someone emailing me about not trusting BROOK DURANT I am not a liar that is the truth I will not give the name because he was just trying to help but I can copy and paste exactly what he wrote to me if it concerns you so much.I DON"T LIE

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I'd love to see it. No one on here knows me at all so why they would say I'm untrustworthy is beyond me.