Cinnamon or black pastel...

Hey everyone, out of all odds a black or cinny pastel will be my next breeder! After seeing the black platinum I really want to make one. I sorta making the post out of excitement so bare with me:D Here is one that i would like to get, I'm waiting for a reply.

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?de=585907&cat=32

I'll keep everyone updated on which one i pick out( There are a few more breeders i am waiting for a reply about other black or cinnys) Thanks- Matt

just remember genetics... Black pastels are known for their jet black backround which was passed to the black platty... a cinny would give it a light brown color. i like the color on the black pastel for this cross more BUT the one with the cinny hasnt been made yet but will more than likely be made this year.

yeah, but I really like the cinnys "bar" pattern... not sure if you know what i mean...

If you are looking for black pastel females, there is a link I found for you to look at.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62726

If you shop around you can find some KILLER black pastels. Ian G's line is the best hands down, no contest.

They make some of the best combo's and out of the various lines of blacks and cinnies his line has the least "train wrecks", as far as facial, and kinking problems on the supers. Plus the black platinum that Sharp has is killer, not to mention the silver streak, and my personal favorite morph, ghost black pastel. (I saw 2 of them at Ian's place and they were hands down the best looking morph I have seen!

Go with what you like, but if looking for a black, its worth the wait to hold out for something out of Ian's line, they are smoking!!

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If you are looking for black pastel females, there is a link I found for you to look at.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=62726

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In his updated post he says that he only has the pastels left

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If you shop around you can find some KILLER black pastels. Ian G's line is the best hands down, no contest.

They make some of the best combo's and out of the various lines of blacks and cinnies his line has the least "train wrecks", as far as facial, and kinking problems on the supers. Plus the black platinum that Sharp has is killer, not to mention the silver streak, and my personal favorite morph, ghost black pastel. (I saw 2 of them at Ian's place and they were hands down the best looking morph I have seen!

Go with what you like, but if looking for a black, its worth the wait to hold out for something out of Ian's line, they are smoking!!

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Does he have any subadults? That is what i am looking for.

Black Pastels forever!!!

[QUOTE=Beardedragon;757973]In his updated post he says that he only has the pastels left


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No he has everything else left also, the update means he has sold all but 6 of the female pastels. I talked to him recently and he has the rest of the snakes left.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Black Pastels forever!!!

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Ditto that.

Gulf Coast Reptiles Line all the way for me!

[QUOTE=aaramire;757979][QUOTE=Beardedragon;757973]In his updated post he says that he only has the pastels left

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No he has everything else left also, the update means he has sold all but 6 of the female pastels. I talked to him recently and he has the rest of the snakes left.

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Alright, Ive emailed him.

get both, thats what i did;)

If you have to choose one, go with the Black. I believe Ian G. has the best line. I do really like the Satins that Tracy produced last year -- different -- but really nice!.

I'm going for a second cousin to the Black Platinum. I am covering two Cinny's and one Black Pastel with my Butter. My Butter is very yellow and light, so I am hoping for red rather than brown for contrast color as a back-drop for any pattern that will show up. Pattern and color should be somewhat different considering I am using two different animals than Brian used. Congrats to Brian!! Black Platty is SWEET!

Many of my projects this year(thinking long term) involve animals with opposite super forms. Black/White -- makes codom combos done the road interesting I think. Good luck with your search.

my breeder male Black if Ian G line purchased from Coldbloodedaddict

hes HOT and i dont think cinnys come anywhere close to blacks

I have never seen any other line of black pastel come close to a nice Ian G line!

Plus they have better less problematic genetics than the other lines too!!

Hey, I am putting a deposit on one of the females in the link from aaramire(Sp) The reason he is selling them is because he is building a 8000sq rodent building! Thats huge! I'll be talking to him again later tonight.

scratch that, im putting a down payment on two! One is going to be for my friend who is paying for it. She has a pastel and pewters are on her list to make. One day we can start on pastel black plattys! I can tell this is going to be fun.

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hes HOT and i dont think cinnys come anywhere close to blacks

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I dunno... I think Cinnies are pretty nice, too:

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...2s2_904865.jpg

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Originally Posted by xdeus

I dunno... I think Cinnies are pretty nice, too:

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...2s2_904865.jpg

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Hey, I never said cinnys were not nice! If i could i would get both!:)

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Hey, I never said cinnys were not nice! If i could i would get both!:)

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LOL... no, I was just having fun with Nick's post. Honestly, do a search on Cinnies and Black Pastels. You'll find a wide variety of great looking snakes and ugly ones in spite of their label. Just like other pastels... buy the snake not the name.

Congrats! Glad I could be of some help and yeah you spelled it right! Did you get pictures from him of the snake? You should post them!!

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=580989

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http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=32&de=580989

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nice! which one are you getting?? I love Ryan's snakes. I wish he had more pastel females or I would get one!!

Im not sure yet, he told me that he sold one over the phone. So I guess the two that he did not sell.

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Im not sure yet, he told me that he sold one over the phone. So I guess the two that he did not sell.

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you are getting two black pastels?? oh cool!

Yup, one is for my friend who wants to make pewters. Or maybe more black platinums if she wants to do a stud service:)

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Yup, one is for my friend who wants to make pewters. Or maybe more black platinums if she wants to do a stud service:)

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sweetness!

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I dunno... I think Cinnies are pretty nice, too:

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...2s2_904865.jpg

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OK that is one of the darkest Cinnys I have ever seen... now i would not mind mixing those cinny genes into my collection...looks like a black pastel

I hear about Ian G's black pastel line here and there, who's this man? Website?

Outback Reptiles -- He is in Virginia.

I got a black pastel female from Josh @ JnJ Reptiles and it's one of the best I've seen. I think he told me it was Ian G lineage. It's really black and the gold really stands out. I'll post some pics tonight.

Alan

I would think twice before investing in a Black Pastel. The Pewter’s are nowhere near as nice looking (unless you think the color of black and brown mud is appealing). If you want your Cinnamon’s to look like this, your Pewter’s to look like this, and your Silver Bullet’s to look like this you will need a Graziani line Cinnamon. Notice the Silver Bullet has no amount what so ever of nose problem or kink. Try getting that with a Black Pastel.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images..._2br07_h_2.jpg

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Originally Posted by Albey

I would think twice before investing in a Black Pastel. The Pewter’s are nowhere near as nice looking (unless you think the color of black and brown mud is appealing). If you want your Cinnamon’s to look like this, your Pewter’s to look like this, and your Silver Bullet’s to look like this you will need a Graziani line Cinnamon. Notice the Silver Bullet has no amount what so ever of nose problem or kink. Try getting that with a Black Pastel.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images..._2br07_h_2.jpg

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hard to argue with those smokin snakes:O
I have a Graziani cinny girl just to make pewters like that!
And a VPI black satin when I wanna cross over to the Darkside:sabduel::snake2:

can some one post some pics of pewters made with black pastels for me please

Theres one on this page

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...US267%26sa%3DN

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

Theres one on this page

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...US267%26sa%3DN

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The Cinny on that page is sweet!

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

Theres one on this page

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...US267%26sa%3DN

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I rest my case.:gj:

haha i have to say they are brighter with better blushing.. i still LOVE The black pewter. might have to pick me up a female cinny

http://www.ballpython777.com/blackpe...wtertongue.jpg

http://floridareptileroom.com/sitebu...res/pewter.jpg

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Originally Posted by NickMyers03

haha i have to say they are brighter with better blushing.. i still LOVE The black pewter. might have to pick me up a female cinny

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Now were talking Nick. :) By the way, I forgot to include a picture of one of my Sterling Pastel. He is not too bad looking either.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images...ast07_2bpn.jpg

But Albey... You sorta cheated with that example. You have the best cinnys i have ever seen! ditto that with the pewter:D With any morph its not just the name, its the snake! Ive seen some pretty ugly cinny pewters and black pewters, and with both ive seen some that makes me want to check my funds:P

i like the silver bullet better.....

Well, I just put $300 down on Two subadult black pastels:) Black Platinums here i come...:please:

i want 2 get a black and a cinni at some point. just not ready for them yet

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But Albey... You sorta cheated with that example. You have the best cinnys i have ever seen! ditto that with the pewter:D With any morph its not just the name, its the snake! Ive seen some pretty ugly cinny pewters and black pewters, and with both ive seen some that makes me want to check my funds:P

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blank I write from Italy and I do not know the language e' only a translator.
I find you the all best ones.
I would want to know if coupling one “pewter x pewter” what it is obtained?
infinite thanks
francesca