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  • 03-28-2008, 11:41 PM
    chaos
    Platty daddy's in my future
    I was checking on some of the females that had follicle's but had not ovulated yet and to my surprise the platty sib is ovulating (finally) now the wait is on...... i got my fingers crossed on this one.................i will post pics soon:banana:
  • 03-28-2008, 11:59 PM
    NickMyers03
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    how did you get a platty sib???????? i didnt know ralph let any out
  • 03-29-2008, 12:01 AM
    chaos
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    only two that i know of !
  • 03-29-2008, 12:16 AM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    I know who ralph davis is... and I have heard of Platty Daddy before... Please explain the signifigance of the term "platty daddy"... who is platty daddy???
  • 03-29-2008, 12:19 AM
    chaos
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
  • 03-29-2008, 12:25 AM
    NickMyers03
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    you are my new best friend... you will be the second person to ever make them ( if im correct) does Ralph know the good news?... and talk about a golden gene
  • 03-29-2008, 12:28 AM
    chaos
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    yep, he knows and yes i could be the second person in the world
    to produce a platty
  • 03-29-2008, 12:29 AM
    chaos
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    it feels like six or seven eggs
  • 03-29-2008, 12:30 AM
    MarkS
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    So, do you have any pictures of your sibling? What year is she? Was she from the original platty daddy or one of the second string of plattys???
  • 03-29-2008, 12:32 AM
    chaos
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    she is an 05 and from the original platty
  • 03-29-2008, 12:34 AM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    :gj:thanks.... sir.....
  • 03-29-2008, 12:40 AM
    chaos
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
  • 03-29-2008, 12:43 AM
    MarkS
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Very nice, you are a very lucky person. Best of luck to you, I hope you get a lot of plattys out of her.

    Mark
  • 03-29-2008, 01:04 AM
    J.Vandegrift
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Good luck with the odds. I bet that girl set you back a couple $$.
  • 03-29-2008, 01:57 AM
    munding
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    sorry sir. im kinda new here. please correct me if im wrong. but you need to breed a lesser to a platinum in order to get platinums right? im a little bit color blind. the pic you posted, is that a platinum? cos it looks lie a normal to me.:confused:
  • 03-29-2008, 02:05 AM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Sweet!!!

    Platinums are one of my favorites...Hope you produce a bunch!!!
  • 03-29-2008, 02:25 AM
    munding
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict View Post
    Sweet!!!

    Platinums are one of my favorites...Hope you produce a bunch!!!

    ok. thanks. i got it. but in kevin's book it says to produce a platty you need a platty x lesser or a platty x normal (het. gene carrier).

    not from a lesser x normal(het gene carrier).

    hmm...:imslow::imslow::imslow:
  • 03-29-2008, 10:34 AM
    chaos
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Thanks everyone!
    out of all the projects i am doing this year this is one that is tough to know what will come out because not only did i breed an rdr lesser to her but also a pastel lesser as well so if things work out it could be the first pastel platty daddy ever produced which would be nuts ...i hope...........
  • 03-29-2008, 10:46 AM
    Petboy15
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Pastel platty would be awesome, good luck!
  • 03-29-2008, 12:42 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Quote:

    ok. Thanks. I got it. But in kevin's book it says to produce a platty you need a platty x lesser or a platty x normal (het. Gene carrier).

    not from a lesser x normal(het gene carrier).
    The gene that makes an animal a platinum is now widely thought to be another allele of the platinum complex. ie: It shares the same exact location as the other genes in the complex. Since genes are paired there can only be two different alleles at any given loci.

    Some of the identified genes in the platinum complex are.

    Lesser
    butter
    mojave
    phantom
    platty sibling
    vin russo het white diamond

    You can have only two of these in any one snake. Some of the mixes that have been done so far are
    Lesser X Lesser = leucistic
    butter x butter = leucistic
    mojave x mojave = leucistic (or super mojave as some people are calling them since they still have a lot of color)
    phantom x phantom = super phantom
    vin russo het X vin russo het = leucistic (white diamond I think it's called)
    mojave X lesser = leucistic (with a bit of color but not as much as a super mojave)
    lesser x phantom = Karma Leucistic (more color then lesser x lesser)
    sibling x lesser = Platinum
    sibling x butter = butter platty
    sibling x phantom = phantom 44
    sibling x sibling = normal looking gene carrier (Ralph did this several times and couldn't tell the difference between the snakes but presumably he would have wound up with 25% super siblings (homozygous gene carriers) 50% siblings (heterozygous gene carriers) and 25% normals (non gene carrier)

    So, if Chaos breeds his sibling to anything carrying the lesser gene, he should get about a 25% shot at producing a Platinum.

    Mark
  • 03-29-2008, 12:47 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    What would happen if you bred a Lesserxmojave bel to a butter bel? Would you get all three in one bel? Good luck on the plattys, keep us updated!
  • 03-29-2008, 12:52 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Quote:

    What would happen if you bred a Lesserxmojave bel to a butter bel? Would you get all three in one bel? Good luck on the plattys, keep us updated!
    No. Since it appears that they are all different alleles of the same gene, you can only have two traits in one animal.
  • 03-29-2008, 02:17 PM
    LGL
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    That's awesome!! I didn't know that Ralph had let any sibs go! That'd be sweet if you hatched out a Pastel Platty!! Good luck!
  • 03-29-2008, 02:28 PM
    nwheat
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Congrats!! :D
  • 03-29-2008, 02:36 PM
    papaK
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    that's awesome... must feel good to be part of such a great project!
  • 03-29-2008, 03:28 PM
    munding
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    The gene that makes an animal a platinum is now widely thought to be another allele of the platinum complex. ie: It shares the same exact location as the other genes in the complex. Since genes are paired there can only be two different alleles at any given loci.

    Some of the identified genes in the platinum complex are.

    Lesser
    butter
    mojave
    phantom
    platty sibling
    vin russo het white diamond

    You can have only two of these in any one snake. Some of the mixes that have been done so far are
    Lesser X Lesser = leucistic
    butter x butter = leucistic
    mojave x mojave = leucistic (or super mojave as some people are calling them since they still have a lot of color)
    phantom x phantom = super phantom
    vin russo het X vin russo het = leucistic (white diamond I think it's called)
    mojave X lesser = leucistic (with a bit of color but not as much as a super mojave)
    lesser x phantom = Karma Leucistic (more color then lesser x lesser)
    sibling x lesser = Platinum
    sibling x butter = butter platty
    sibling x phantom = phantom 44
    sibling x sibling = normal looking gene carrier (Ralph did this several times and couldn't tell the difference between the snakes but presumably he would have wound up with 25% super siblings (homozygous gene carriers) 50% siblings (heterozygous gene carriers) and 25% normals (non gene carrier)

    So, if Chaos breeds his sibling to anything carrying the lesser gene, he should get about a 25% shot at producing a Platinum.

    Mark

    ah.. i see. thank you sir. :oops::oops::oops:

    thanks.

    raymond
  • 03-29-2008, 04:09 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Actually, that last line should have read.

    "So, if Chaos breeds his sibling to anything carrying the lesser gene, he should get about a 25% shot with each egg at producing a Platinum."

    Sorry, I should have proof read that better.
  • 03-29-2008, 04:15 PM
    Larry Suttles
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Chaos thats really cool brother! Keep us updated and good luck to you.:headbang:
  • 03-29-2008, 05:33 PM
    Inferno
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    congrats on that and good luck....keep us posted.
  • 03-29-2008, 07:22 PM
    Brock Wagner
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Hopefully you get her to go Erik. I would like to see you produce some Platty's.

    Brock
  • 03-29-2008, 10:51 PM
    atp151415
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    if you wanted to produce pastel plattys why didnt you just breed him to her?
  • 03-30-2008, 10:53 AM
    KMS
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Platties would be cool...I wish you luck and atleast a pair...
    Kevin Stoltz
    www.kmsreptiles.com
  • 03-30-2008, 12:26 PM
    chaos
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    (ATP)it's a young male so i was not taking chances.. thats why!
  • 03-30-2008, 02:24 PM
    atp151415
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    oh i see, sorry if i said that in a sarcastic way. it was like 12 oclock at night lol
  • 03-30-2008, 06:49 PM
    JKBReptiles
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chaos View Post
    (ATP)it's a young male so i was not taking chances.. thats why!

    Congrats Brotha... I hope you score big on this one
  • 03-30-2008, 07:22 PM
    chaos
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Thanks everyone,
    It seem like time is in slow motion with this project
  • 10-27-2008, 11:04 PM
    grunt_11b
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    What happened with this??? Did you hit the platty??

    Alan
  • 10-28-2008, 12:59 AM
    Royal Morphz
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    i can almost gaurantee the answer was no he would have been back on her bragging as soon as the little one had piped lol i know i would have
  • 10-29-2008, 08:06 PM
    chaos
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    don't worry i have a surprise or two or three to post soon!:gj:
  • 10-29-2008, 08:47 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    I'm ready! :popcorn:
  • 10-29-2008, 08:49 PM
    anendeloflorien
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chaos View Post
    don't worry i have a surprise or two or three to post soon!:gj:

    OOoooo can't wait :D
  • 10-30-2008, 09:35 AM
    Brock Wagner
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Chaos doesn't have nothing he is just teasing you! Love you Eric!

    Brock :banana:
  • 10-31-2008, 12:37 PM
    Bristen
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chaos View Post
    yep, he knows and yes i could be the second person in the world
    to produce a platty

    There are actually 3 in total that have produced Platty Daddies (Platinum) so far.. I believe there is one in Germany and one in the US that accidentally produced Platty Daddies this year... but I understand at the time of posting this, your statement was likely correct. I think the Platty Daddies were likely produced only after your statement.

    Anyways, good luck and look forward to seeing the babies!

    Regards,
    Bristen.
  • 10-31-2008, 03:59 PM
    juddb
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Any platty d's yet:confused:, im curious to see what she threw for you.
  • 10-31-2008, 04:16 PM
    Pandora
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Quote:
    Somebody loves their use of periods .................
    :P
  • 10-31-2008, 05:37 PM
    juddb
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pandora View Post
    Somebody loves their use of periods .................
    :P

    Periods are pretty sweet................................
  • 03-30-2009, 01:22 AM
    grunt_11b
    Re: Platty daddy's in my future
    Did you hit any platties?????

    Alan
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