I think Vincent is a girl? *Popping question*

I tried to pop Vincent a couple of times tonight and I got nothing. I dunno if I'm doing it right, but I was following along with Ralph Davis.

What does a female look like when you are popping them? Doesn't nothing come out, or does it just look like a pink hole? Because that's kinda what I saw.

I've also tried popping Monty by watching Ralph's video (boy, he makes it look so easy) and by reading how it's done in Kevin McCurley's book. But either I'm not doing it right, I'm being too gentle to get his hemi's to pop, or Monty is a she. So I'll also be watching this thread for any new insight. :teevee:

Some great pictures here that might help you both.

http://www.vpi.com/publications/dete..._sex_of_snakes

its appears that i have a girl on my hands :banana:

a friend of mine has been a vets assistant for a few years and she suggested using a bobby pin as a probe as long as you dont twist it. it has the little plastic ball on the end and is nearly the same size as a probe. so i lubed one up and very gently checked her and it only went in 3-4 scales worth...female correct?

she didnt even move so it must not have been too unpleasant for her...

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Originally Posted by Kerig3

I've also tried popping Monty by watching Ralph's video (boy, he makes it look so easy) and by reading how it's done in Kevin McCurley's book. But either I'm not doing it right, I'm being too gentle to get his hemi's to pop, or Monty is a she. So I'll also be watching this thread for any new insight. :teevee:

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Yeah, it's like he doesn't even have to try. My pet was from a petstore, so I wasn't too sure. I wish he'd tell you how hard to press, because I ended up pressing pretty hard, and pulling back on the butt flap. Nothing came out, I think he's a she.

It'd be cool because I should be getting another male tomorrow and could maybe bread them next year. :)

Haha, what a great thread to show up. I tried popping both of mine last night, and I was either doing it wrong or they're both girls. XD I -was- pretty sure they were males, but I'm going to let a professional probe them when I get the chance, just in case. :)

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Originally Posted by Indigo

Haha, what a great thread to show up. I tried popping both of mine last night, and I was either doing it wrong or they're both girls. XD I -was- pretty sure they were males, but I'm going to let a professional probe them when I get the chance, just in case. :)

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Yeah, it's so weird never doing it before because you really don't know. I'm just so afraid to hurt him, even though I thought I did it kinda hard.

If he is a girl, that'd suck, but at the same time (s)he would be great to pair with my male morph I'm receiving. (Years down the road, before I get flammed, i'm not going to keep them together, and QT is important.)

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Originally Posted by ch312

its appears that i have a girl on my hands :banana:

a friend of mine has been a vets assistant for a few years and she suggested using a bobby pin as a probe as long as you dont twist it. it has the little plastic ball on the end and is nearly the same size as a probe. so i lubed one up and very gently checked her and it only went in 3-4 scales worth...female correct?

she didnt even move so it must not have been too unpleasant for her...

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Or maybe it was soo unpleasant she couldn't move.

I havent tried to pop Little Dude and I don't plan on it. The breeder did it for me and showed me so I knew it was male, but even if he hadn't I would be afraid of hurting him or stressing him out. I have a local herp vet and Little Dude gets checkups so if for any reason I was unsure, I would just ask the vet to check.

I cant imagine probing is really that unpleasant for them. We have no idea how many nerves they have down there. I would venture its a pressure and awkward, but not so unpleasant that it hurts.

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

I cant imagine probing is really that unpleasant for them. We have no idea how many nerves they have down there. I would venture its a pressure and awkward, but not so unpleasant that it hurts.

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I was talking about him using a bobby pin. :O

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

I cant imagine probing is really that unpleasant for them.

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OK, although it's unfair to compare humans to snakes...I'm a male in his mid-40's and have recently gone through all the necessary male-mid-life-battery-of-probing...and all I can says is...there's not a darn thing pleasant about it! :tears:

Is it any wonder why I'm being so gentle with Monty? :oops:

Now where did I put my bobby pins? Oh, right...male pattern baldness...I'll add 'em to my grocery list :D

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Originally Posted by patthesnakeman

I was talking about him using a bobby pin. :O

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i highly doubt it was too unpleasant for the snake to move. here i thought it was common sense that animals try to get away when they are being hurt instead of sitting there like nothing is happening:rolleyes:

i think a vet would know a little more than you about the subject...

A friend of mine once told me that you shouldn't probe adult balls or heavy bodied snakes because if they get anxious, they can wrap their tails downward into the probe and injure themselves. Is there any truth to that?

If you know what you are doing, and can hold an adult ball down appropriately, there is nothing wrong with probing an adult at all.

Its when you have them thrashing around and when you have no control is when the accidents can happen.

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Originally Posted by icygirl

A friend of mine once told me that you shouldn't probe adult balls or heavy bodied snakes because if they get anxious, they can wrap their tails downward into the probe and injure themselves. Is there any truth to that?

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Thats why you have a second person helping you to prevent this from happening.A young ball python could do the same thing if allowed to toss itself around uncontrolled ;)

where can I find Ralph Davis' video on popping?

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Originally Posted by mwedgley

where can I find Ralph Davis' video on popping?

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Over 7 minutes of poppin' action! ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPmIpc_gP9I

lol. I think Vincent is a boy now! I popped Jules and he had little hemipenes (spelling?), which is kinda what I saw on Vincent. So no babies from those two in the future. :D

Unless of course they want to adopt, and then I will support them in whatever they choose. ha!


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So you were able to pop vincent without any problems?

I've tried on Monty several times...each time thinking I was pressing too hard...yet nothing 'popped' out. I've probably watched that video about 10 times, but cannot seem to get the feel for it. Ralph makes it look so easy, and I followed all the steps, but nothing... :(

What can I be doing wrong??? :confused:

Can anyone offer a suggestion of what I may be forgetting...based on their own first pop? ;)

Well I finally got tired of trying to find someone to help me so I watched the vids and went for it. On both the BP and the RTB, I got a single pink bulb like thing to pop out, but no obvious boy parts...So unless I didn't do it right, I have 2 girls. If anyone has any more links to pic of girls that would be cool.