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  • 03-17-2008, 11:19 PM
    JASBALLS
    I need help!
    What are all of your expiriences with roll out eggs? (aka, the mom rolled them out of the clutch) I know my first clutch ever had a roll out. it turned out to be an albino female.. I got a clutch Yesterday, You wont believe it until I post pics. But comments first!
  • 03-17-2008, 11:22 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: I need help!
    I was thinking about this after reading an article about wilds that do the same thing. Do you think that maybe it could be unintentional (sp?). Then, once it is away she doesnt think that it is hers?
  • 03-17-2008, 11:27 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: I need help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by patthesnakeman View Post
    I was thinking about this after reading an article about wilds that do the same thing. Do you think that maybe it could be unintentional (sp?). Then, once it is away she doesnt think that it is hers?

    I'm thinking I either caught her when she just finished or she didnt give a crap!
  • 03-17-2008, 11:28 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: I need help!
    I just keep picturing the new Charlie and the Chocolate Factory with Johhny Depp, when the squirrells tap on the nuts to see if they are bad. LOL

    You get what I'm sayin?
  • 03-17-2008, 11:30 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: I need help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by patthesnakeman View Post
    I just keep picturing the new Charlie and the Chocolate Factory with Johhny Depp, when the squirrells tap on the nuts to see if they are bad. LOL

    You get what I'm sayin?

    No, I've never seen that movie..
  • 03-17-2008, 11:31 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: I need help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JASBALLS View Post
    No, I've never seen that movie..

    :O Dude, a Must!
  • 03-17-2008, 11:32 PM
    joepythons
    Re: I need help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JASBALLS View Post
    What are all of your expiriences with roll out eggs? (aka, the mom rolled them out of the clutch) I know my first clutch ever had a roll out. it turned out to be an albino female.. I got a clutch Yesterday, You wont believe it until I post pics. But comments first!

    Cmon bring on those pics :weirdface :weirdface :8:
  • 03-17-2008, 11:44 PM
    hoo-t
    Re: I need help!
    According to a thread I read recently, they should be ok for the first 24 hours. Just put it back in the way you picked it up.

    :D

    Steve
  • 03-17-2008, 11:45 PM
    rbchesapeakeball
    Re: I need help!
    Jas,

    Had one roll out last year, it went bad.

    Rich
  • 03-18-2008, 12:24 AM
    Rapture
    Re: I need help!
    I think I've read that most roll outs go bad during incubation? Cool to hear about your albino female though!
  • 03-18-2008, 04:30 AM
    MPenn
    Re: I need help!
    I have also heard that most roll outs go bad but I have also heard of a few that hatch. My guess is it was a small mom and she just couldn't wrap herself around the eggs.
  • 03-18-2008, 05:53 AM
    JASBALLS
    Re: I need help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MPenn View Post
    I have also heard that most roll outs go bad but I have also heard of a few that hatch. My guess is it was a small mom and she just couldn't wrap herself around the eggs.

    2750g. I think she could of..
  • 03-18-2008, 06:47 AM
    JenH
    Re: I need help!
    Jas - I was reading some where that when you candle them you can see the embryo. It looks like a ring(?) with viens going to it. Put a little pencil x where you see that and keep that X on top....

    I think Tim Bailey wrote that in another post.......
  • 03-18-2008, 11:24 AM
    LadyOhh
    Re: I need help!
    I had a smaller girl do a roll out. She was self incubating, and I just kept putting the egg back with her. It ended up being a beautiful baby snake.

    I've also had one that didn't make it.

    Incubate it and see. :D
  • 03-18-2008, 12:06 PM
    janeothejungle
    Re: I need help!
    I'm going with 'some mothers are just crap'. Has she laid for you before without issue? Either that or she was REALLY pissed at you pimping her out.

    Either way, candle those suckers and have a go if they're fertile.

    Should be interesting. ;)

    CHeers,
    Kat
  • 03-18-2008, 12:12 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: I need help!
    I don't have any experience, but BT mentioned on RR that a guy candled roll out eggs and the embryo wasn't where it should be so the guy would rotate the eggs so the embryo and blood vessels were together on top and they all hatched. It sounded like it made sense to me?
  • 03-18-2008, 01:21 PM
    muddoc
    Re: I need help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JenH View Post
    Jas - I was reading some where that when you candle them you can see the embryo. It looks like a ring(?) with viens going to it. Put a little pencil x where you see that and keep that X on top....

    I think Tim Bailey wrote that in another post.......

    I did write that in another post, and have had very good luck with that approach. If memory serves me right, I have not had a roll out go bad that candled as fertile when it was laid.

    JAS, let's see that pic now. Did she roll out the whole clutch? How many eggs was it? Did the eggs have any waxy, sticky coating on them? Where any of the eggs connected to each other (similar to how links of sausage are connected)?
  • 03-18-2008, 08:27 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: I need help!
    they are fine! I just wanted to say not all females that "roll out" An egg knows what she is doing. It doesnt mean they are bad! LOL...

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3.../08eggs001.jpg
    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3.../08eggs005.jpg
  • 03-18-2008, 08:32 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: I need help!
    Awesome Jas!!!!
  • 03-18-2008, 08:51 PM
    rbchesapeakeball
    Re: I need help!
    They look good, maybe she wasn't in the motherly mood!

    Rich
  • 03-18-2008, 08:55 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: I need help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rbchesapeakeball View Post
    They look good, maybe she wasn't in the motherly mood!

    Rich

    Yea, thats what I thought. Thanks!:gj:
  • 03-18-2008, 09:15 PM
    janeothejungle
    Re: I need help!
    Look fine to me. :gj:

    Either way, Congrats!! Send that momma back to parenting school...

    Cheers,
    Kat
  • 03-18-2008, 09:16 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: I need help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by janeothejungle View Post
    Look fine to me. :gj:

    Either way, Congrats!! Send that momma back to parenting school...

    Cheers,
    Kat

    HAHA.. Shes to young for school! Thanks Kat!!:gj:
  • 03-18-2008, 10:13 PM
    papaK
    Re: I need help!
    congrats jas!
  • 03-18-2008, 10:23 PM
    Laooda
    Re: I need help!
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  • 03-18-2008, 10:24 PM
    Laooda
    Re: I need help!
    Haha!!! I think she was like... "I know these babies are going to look strange... all black and yellow... ans spotty"....:P

    I knew a Stallion that wouldn't breed any colored mares... no Paints, no Appaloosas... they would blanket colored mares to get him to mount... don't know why that popped into my head? :weirdface Anyway!!! Congrats on that line of eggs there! :D
  • 03-18-2008, 10:46 PM
    Ben_Renick
    Re: I need help!
    Man, that's weird!!!! I've had females drop eggs and push them out before, they were full of veins, but still died off within a couple weeks... Curious to see if it's always the case! Keep updated, good luck man!!
  • 03-18-2008, 10:50 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: I need help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_Renick View Post
    Man, that's weird!!!! I've had females drop eggs and push them out before, they were full of veins, but still died off within a couple weeks... Curious to see if it's always the case! Keep updated, good luck man!!

    Will do Ben! Thanks Man..
  • 03-18-2008, 11:54 PM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: I need help!
    I've had several "Roll Outs" over the years...They have all hatched...I don't do anything special...Just put the egg in the box how I find it.

    I've even had females coiled around a slug or two, but yet a good egg(s) sitting out next to them...

    I don't think they have a clue.
  • 03-19-2008, 12:12 AM
    JASBALLS
    Re: I need help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict View Post
    I've had several "Roll Outs" over the years...They have all hatched...I don't do anything special...Just put the egg in the box how I find it.

    I've even had females coiled around a slug or two, but yet a good egg(s) sitting out next to them...

    I don't think they have a clue.

    That is My point! You win Jon!! Send Harvey for the prize. LOL!!:P:P:P
  • 03-19-2008, 07:00 AM
    JenH
    Re: I need help!
    Did she even care that you took them?
  • 03-19-2008, 07:59 AM
    JASBALLS
    Re: I need help!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JenH View Post
    Did she even care that you took them?

    No, She didnt. She actually laid in a coil the following day though..
  • 03-19-2008, 09:11 AM
    Thomas Jones
    Re: I need help!
    I have had a few roll outs. Most did hatch. Good Luck jas.
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