Sad Day

unless BP's hibernate in the middle of march i do belive i've lost one of my girls..

they BOTH didn't want to eat last month so i bonked the rats and got rid of them

today i got 2 smaller (much smalle) rats

i uncovered both of them to palce them in the feeding boxes..

one isn't moving..

the other is basking in the light not wanting to eat

the tank is about 75 ATM

it's 24x24x60''

2 boxes on opposite ends of the tank

water dish in the middle

this is the first time using paper as a bedding instead of the pine i had

i've noticed some white powder but i guess thats called uniates?

I am so sorry to hear about this. I think someone else needs to address why this might have happened and maybe some husbandry issues that may have influenced this outcome. In the meanwhile, maybe you could read: http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=56846
and this: http://www.ball-pythons.net/modules....warticle&id=59
and this: http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=30763
With this information you might be able to address some needs of your remaining snake.
I'm sorry again for this loss :tears: and feel encouraged that you posted and are looking for suggestions and help.... Take care :oops:

You cannot tell if it is dead? They do breathe

There is two in one cage? If one was sick, and died, the other might be sick too

75 degrees? Way to cold!

i keep on hearing that i should keep it at 80 but the local reptile rescue guy (who has a few dozen BP's) says that 70 is okay...

im not sure if one was sick but im going to clean out the tank and put in new bedding/boxes ect

80 is still to low, IMO. shoot for minumum 88 :2cent:

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Originally Posted by starshooter10

i keep on hearing that i should keep it at 80 but the local reptile rescue guy (who has a few dozen BP's) says that 70 is okay...

im not sure if one was sick but im going to clean out the tank and put in new bedding/boxes ect

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70 is not okay for a tropical animal. Please read the care sheets that I linked for you. Please! :bow:

i got the other one in a warmer area now..

and just flicked on the lamp

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Originally Posted by starshooter10

i keep on hearing that i should keep it at 80 but the local reptile rescue guy (who has a few dozen BP's) says that 70 is okay...

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Guess he was wrong! 82 is the minimum ambient temp I keep my BP's at (I have a few dozen too!) 92 is the hot spot.

70 is way too cool for this species of snake. 70 is ok for a corn snake, but I still wouldnt even leave them that cool.

Your tank is massive. I would say you need to do some work ASAP to save this other BP before it too succumbs.

Buy a 28 quart sterilite tub, an Accurite thermometer/hygrometer from walmart.

Put the UTH on a thermostat, set it at 88-92 degrees. We want him to have a basking spot of AT LEAST 88 degrees.

The ambient air temps should be around 80-84. Humidity should be at 60%.

NEVER use pine, use aspen, or some other commonly used substrate like eco-earth or even newspaper.

Please, please do this. Read the caresheet and decide if it's worth it to continue following this one guys advice when it obviously isnt working.

im turning up the under tank pad as well as the light,,,

although i used pin for gosh know how long the last 3/4 changes have been with old newspaper

(just plain black/white only)

ima miss "the little snake"

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Originally Posted by starshooter10

im turning up the under tank pad as well as the light,,,

although i used pin for gosh know how long the last 3/4 changes have been with old newspaper

(just plain black/white only)

ima miss "the little snake"

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Do you have a thermostat? You dont want him to get a belly burn because it was too hot. Do you have a thermometer either? Knowing what your temps are is very important.

The only way you will know for sure what your BP died of is by having a necropsy done.

Since both were house together I would highly encourage you to first take your other BP to a vet and have it check and second to address the husbandry issues.

This will help correct your husbandry.

http://www.ball-pythons.net/modules....warticle&id=59

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...004#post569004

As already stated your temps are un-healthy for ball pythons and prolonged exposure to unhealthy temps increase the risk of RI (Respiratory Infection), which is fatal if left untreated.

Also NEVER use pine or cedar, and avoid housing multiple snakes together in the future.

And finally do not listen to the your local Reptile Rescue guy anymore.

yeah im going to stick with news paper from now on..

and i do have a thermostat..

and a IR on also...

ima keep an eye on my "big girl" from now on..

and watch the temps a bit better