Male vs Female?

Hello to all, my name is Jorge and I"m new to BP.net. For a while I was debating between a children's python or a ball python but I have decided that i want to get a ball python... So i've been doing some research and I looked up all the tank info and how to set it up I'm good there... Now the hard part is to find where I can find a local breeder (408) and whether it should be male or female and how old it should be... I just have so many questions and I was hoping you guys could help :D... I would prefer a local breeder because I want to see my selection instead of having a snake picked by someone else shipped to me... plus shipping a live animal just sounds awkward... Thanks for everything in advanced :D

Also is there a noted difference between a female and male, character wise... I know that females get a bit larger than males but is that the only difference?

The only accurate way to tell male from female is to have the animal probed or popped.:gj: Good luck with your search .

in my experience females get a little bit bigger then males. i originally got a male as my first bp but if i were to do it all over again i would get a female for breeding purposes.

Keep in mind though that some males still can get larger than females not all females get really large. I have an 06 male thats bigger than all my females.

BUt as far as their demeanor?... what do you think would make a better pet based on gender?

I don't see any personality differences that are gender based. I have females who are passive and some are dominant; same with males. Talk to a breeder about the type of personality you are looking for (dominant or passive) and they'll be able to help you choose well.

i have both and it is more in the housing, and over all treatment of the animal that really plays into how it acts towards you. i have had animals in the past that i received as babies and right off the bat they tried to bite everyone. had them a month or so, handled them often, made sure they were fed correctly and housed correctly and now they are kitty cats.

If you are looking purely for a pet ball python than a normal (non morph) male will be your best bang for the buck. Many top breeders have a number of normal males for sale and even with shipping they will be a much better snake for someone new to snake keeping.

You can custom pick your snake from pictures the breeder can send you and shipping isn't a concern as any experienced breeder should know how to ship properly right to your front door by overnight FedEx. I've had a number of snakes shipped in and every one of them has arrived in beautiful condition. The trick is to find the right breeder and not fall for some online scam artist.

Your other option is to either find a breeder close to you or attend a reputable snake show. Your last option should be picking up a snake from a pet store. Pet stores often sell recently imported snakes that are in poor condition and generally make difficult first snakes for people. They are also generally not sexed, have no information about the actual age of your snake and sadly, often have health issues that aren't disclosed to you by the store. :(

As far as care for a male vs a female it's the same thing. Females generally get larger than males but temperment tends to be more of a unique thing for that specific snake. I have laid back males and laid back females, and I have males and females that are more of a challenge to handle.

I think your best bet is to research and speak with some of our breeders here and see if they have a nice, well started male ball python that needs a good, caring home. Make sure the breeder knows you are new to snakekeeping and is willing to answer your concerns and questions.

OK... thats sounds cool I just thought that maybe there were certain tendencies like female dogs are more protective kinda thing... Maybe females tend to establish better bonds with their human... but I guess thats not the case... Do you guys know where to find local breeders? San Jose California?.... at least the bay area?

females are extremely emotional and love to shop....oh wait, we're talking about bps...nm :P

personaly i would go with a female. if you turn out to be like me and keep you snake for few years and decide to get into breeding you have an adult female. also take a look around at your local pet shops to find out what is available for feeders and how much they will cost. if you cant find a reliable supplyer of feeders. then you may find a breeder that feeds FT rodents.

rember snakes are like potato chips you just cant have one.:snake::snake::snake::snake:

yeah i know a guy. i dont think he has stock on hand but he should be hatching out soon. his name is Brian Gundy of www.for-goodness-snakes.com you can contact him via that site, he is a very nice man i bought 2 snakes from him and plan to pick up a Mojave from him once he does hatch! his facility is at his home in a outdoor snake shed, he has amazing animals and will help you care for the animal for its life. when you drop him a line tell him Ray Garcia sent you.

According to their website Tim and Monica Bailey have some lovely normal 07 males for a very reasonable price. They aren't local to you but are experienced shippers. You might want to have a peek at this link to see if there's one there that interests you.

http://www.baileyreptiles.com/07available3.html

Adam Wysocki of 8BallPythons is another long time member here and a top breeder. I have a number of his snakes and can attest to their quality. He's a great guy to talk too, especially for newer snake keepers.

http://www.8ballpythons.com/index.htm?aid=1+bid=3

I totally second that... haha... :D

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Originally Posted by Moriar

yeah i know a guy. i dont think he has stock on hand but he should be hatching out soon. his name is Brian Gundy of www.for-goodness-snakes.com you can contact him via that site, he is a very nice man i bought 2 snakes from him and plan to pick up a Mojave from him once he does hatch! his facility is at his home in a outdoor snake shed, he has amazing animals and will help you care for the animal for its life. when you drop him a line tell him Ray Garcia sent you.

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Thanx man i'm from san jose too.... :D...I'll definatley look him up

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Originally Posted by frankykeno

According to their website Tim and Monica Bailey have some lovely normal 07 males for a very reasonable price. They aren't local to you but are experienced shippers. You might want to have a peek at this link to see if there's one there that interests you.

http://www.baileyreptiles.com/07available3.html

Adam Wysocki of 8BallPythons is another long time member here and a top breeder. I have a number of his snakes and can attest to their quality. He's a great guy to talk too, especially for newer snake keepers.

http://www.8ballpythons.com/index.htm?aid=1+bid=3

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Yeah I heard about 8ballpythons... I saw them they'
re freakin awesome.... too much bank for the morphs though... like 2 to 3 g's I think i'm going to stick to a normal for now :D... thanx though you guys are awesome!

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Originally Posted by JAD408

Yeah I heard about 8ballpythons... I saw them they'
re freakin awesome.... too much bank for the morphs though... like 2 to 3 g's I think i'm going to stick to a normal for now :D... thanx though you guys are awesome!

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You can get so many morphs from Adam (and most breeders) for under 2-3,000 dollars!! Pastels are in the 300 dollar area, for instance. A good thing to do is to call a couple of breeders and start a dialog. Also, a breeder not mentioned yet is NERD, Kev and Kara. Also, heathersherps.com (Sandra) is in Cali and I would not hesitate to buy from her.
The most important thing when buying a snake that you'll have for a long time is to get one that catches your eye- don't just settle on the one you can afford right now..... :D

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Originally Posted by starmom

You can get so many morphs from Adam (and most breeders) for under 2-3,000 dollars!! Pastels are in the 300 dollar area, for instance. A good thing to do is to call a couple of breeders and start a dialog. Also, a breeder not mentioned yet is NERD, Kev and Kara. Also, heathersherps.com (Sandra) is in Cali and I would not hesitate to buy from her.
The most important thing when buying a snake that you'll have for a long time is to get one that catches your eye- don't just settle on the one you can afford right now..... :D

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Not. Enough. Caffeine. Obviously, heathersherps is run by Heather...why on earth I put down Sandy is beyond me...... :bow:

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Originally Posted by JAD408

Yeah I heard about 8ballpythons... I saw them they'
re freakin awesome.... too much bank for the morphs though... like 2 to 3 g's I think i'm going to stick to a normal for now :D... thanx though you guys are awesome!

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Remember just because a breeder produces morphs, doesn't mean they don't have some fantastic normals for sale too. :)

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Originally Posted by starmom

Also, heathersherps.com (Sandra) is in Cali and I would not hesitate to buy from her.

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Probably cause Cassandra and I are buds, and live somewhat close together...

LOL!

It's all good. ;)