Spied Pics???

Spider x Pied

I forget who produced these anyone remember?

Vin Russo

For one

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Vin Russo

For one

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some other people may have some be he is the only one showing.

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

Spider x Pied

I forget who produced these anyone remember?

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Steve Roussis produced one. He has pics on his site here: http://www.roussisreptiles.com/colle...lls/spied.html

Peter Kahl produced a Bee Pied (Pastel Spider Pied). There's some pics here: http://www.exoticsbynature.com/07daytonaphotos.html The pics are almost at the bottom of the page.

thats gotta be my fav snake out of all the snakes ive seen. im lovin the only head pattern. LUCKY MAN HE IS!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by LGL

Steve Roussis produced one. He has pics on his site here: http://www.roussisreptiles.com/colle...lls/spied.html

Peter Kahl produced a Bee Pied (Pastel Spider Pied). There's some pics here: http://www.exoticsbynature.com/07daytonaphotos.html The pics are almost at the bottom of the page.

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Thank You! Thast what i was looking for:gj:

All i know is a Spider x Pied = All Spieds i like those odds...

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

Thank You! Thast what i was looking for:gj:

All i know is a Spider x Pied = All Spieds i like those odds...

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Actually, Spider x Pied = 1/2 Spiders Het Pied and 1/2 Normals Het Pieds.
A Spider Het Pied x Pied = 1/4 Spied, 1/4 Pied, 1/4 Spider 66% Het Pied, 1/4 Normal 66% Het Pied.

I wish it was Spider x Pied = All Spieds, though!!!

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Originally Posted by LGL

Actually, Spider x Pied = 1/2 Spiders Het Pied and 1/2 Normals Het Pieds.
A Spider Het Pied x Pied = 1/4 Spied, 1/4 Pied, 1/4 Spider 66% Het Pied, 1/4 Normal 66% Het Pied.

I wish it was Spider x Pied = All Spieds, though!!!

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Your right i was thinking something else:weirdface

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

Thank You! Thast what i was looking for:gj:

All i know is a Spider x Pied = All Spieds i like those odds...

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What? That's not right.

Spider x Pied = 50% spiders that're 100% het pieds, 50% het pieds.

Spider 100% het pied x pied = 25% spider het pied, 25% spider pied, 25% pied, 25% het pied. ((that SHOULD be right, but...XD yah, I might've made a mistake.))


XDD well, I was slow and mistaken...I kept looking at it going, "man, something's wrong with that..."

The op was right the first time. I talked to Steve last year at Daytona about the spied and you do get all spieds.

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Originally Posted by BallNation

The op was right the first time. I talked to Steve last year at Daytona about the spied and you do get all spieds.

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What?!?!? That makes no sense genetically! If that's so, why was Steve selling Spiders Het Pied and Spiders 66% Poss Het Pied last year? If what you're saying is right, there'd be no such thing as a Spider Het Pied (which makes no sense). Please explain!

Even if you breed a Spied to a Pied, you'd still get 50% Spieds and 50% Pieds, not all Spieds!!

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Originally Posted by LGL

What?!?!? That makes no sense genetically! If that's so, why was Steve selling Spiders Het Pied and Spiders 66% Poss Het Pied last year? If what you're saying is right, there'd be no such thing as a Spider Het Pied (which makes no sense). Please explain!

Even if you breed a Spied to a Pied, you'd still get 50% Spieds and 50% Pieds, not all Spieds!!

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What also doesn't make since is that the spied comes out 99% white every time, so i could see that happening.

The Bee spied is something else as well, the way its mouth is white.

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Originally Posted by LGL

What?!?!? That makes no sense genetically! If that's so, why was Steve selling Spiders Het Pied and Spiders 66% Poss Het Pied last year? If what you're saying is right, there'd be no such thing as a Spider Het Pied (which makes no sense). Please explain!

Even if you breed a Spied to a Pied, you'd still get 50% Spieds and 50% Pieds, not all Spieds!!

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Correct. The only way to hatch all spieds (without a huge amount of luck) is to breed a homozygous spider piebald to a piebald, and no one even knows at this point whether a homozygous spider is even possible to produce. A spied x pied would get you half pieds and half spieds. A spied x spied would increase your chances, but if you have a pair of spieds, you probably have a regular pied to breed to the spied, so that seems like a waste of a breeding season for a perfectly good female spied.

This would throw genetics out the window... more in depth than all the BEL lines and the infamous "hidden/dilute gene" for the Original Platinum. Someone's gotta be mistaken.