Ball Python Prolapse Mess!!!

I don't want people to take this the wrong way and i don't want to start a fight.

But there has been two or three threads on this prolapse mess in a week.

All i see is a bunch of failed attempts at popping. Please if you want to find out the sex of your ball python take it to the vet.

Sry had to get that off my chest!

Did they say that they were popping their snakes? Or is this just an assumption?

Making assumptions will make and ass out of you and umption.

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Originally Posted by Kristy

Did they say that they were popping their snakes? Or is this just an assumption?

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Would they addmit it if they injured their animal?

Does anyone know if it's even possible to prolapse a snake by popping? I didn't think there was anything like that located in their tails? If these did happen from botched poppings, they did something seriously wrong.

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

I don't want people to take this the wrong way and i don't want to start a fight.

But there has been two or three threads on this prolapse mess in a week.

All i see is a bunch of failed attempts at popping. Please if you want to find out the sex of your ball python take it to the vet.

Sry had to get that off my chest!

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Wow- that's a leap. :weirdface

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

Would they addmit it if they injured their animal?

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So they haven't said they were popping then?

I honestly don't think you can prolapse a ball by popping it wrong.

From what I know prolapses generally revolve around two issues - feeding too big or too much and/or dehydration. Tho I could be wrong - I've never actually had a ball prolapse so I'm only going on what I've heard.

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Originally Posted by Kristy

So they haven't said they were popping then?

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No

Next people with RI's are gonna be accused of dipping their snakes in ice water....:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Brimstone111888

Next people with RI's are gonna be accused of dipping their snakes in ice water....:rolleyes:

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You mean I'm not supposed to do that?!?! :8:

Sry i take it all back!!!

I just talked to my vet and she said it has many
Causes but popping is not one of them please forgive me:bow:

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Originally Posted by Brimstone111888

Making assumptions will make and ass out of you and umption.

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And a famous quote from pulp fiction now applys. Next time learn the information first before making outlandish comments.

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Originally Posted by Brimstone111888

And a famous quote from pulp fiction now applys. Next time learn the information first before making outlandish comments.

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Just how many snakes are hurt by people that don't know the right way to pop would you say?

With the number of vids out now showing how to pop more people are trying it. How many of those get it right?

So is it such an outlandish comment??

It's not that difficult to pop a ball python, even an adult, and far more difficult to injure it in the process.

Also, can you link to the threads talking about prolapses that prompted this thread? I can't find them.

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

Just how many snakes are hurt by people that don't know the right way to pop would you say?

With the number of vids out now showing how to pop more people are trying it. How many of those get it right?

So is it such an outlandish comment??

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I'd say so, being that you started a thread ripping on people for causing something that a vet now told you can't possibly happen.

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

Just how many snakes are hurt by people that don't know the right way to pop would you say?

With the number of vids out now showing how to pop more people are trying it. How many of those get it right?

So is it such an outlandish comment??

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

It's not that difficult to pop a ball python, even an adult, and far more difficult to injure it in the process.

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True enough but it does and can happen.

I agree, I took it kinda personal, seeing how my little BCI just prolapsed a few months ago. And I have never tried to pop her! You should think before you post here big guy!

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Originally Posted by starmom

Yes.

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How so?

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

True enough but it does and can happen.

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Do you have hard data that supports that assumption? How often does it happen?

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Do you have hard data that supports that assumption? How often does it happen?

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No just talking with my vet. And the herp vet(who my wife works for at the zoo) at my local zoo who says he gets calls all the time about popping snakes. And he tells me about the horror stories all the time.

So for me it was not that far fetched to think something like that can happen by bad popping.

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

How so?

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You seem to have first engaged in mental masturbation and then implied that owners had caused the prolapse due to aggressive or incorrect popping technique.
You recanted after a vet educated you but yet continued with your thoughts of owners hurting snakes via popping them! I think at that point it might have been wise to step back.....IMO.
I feel that the reason there are videos happening on herp care (Brian's and Adam's; hardly "so many") is due to the herp hobby's tremendous growth and the desire to educate; always a good thing, as you discovered when you spoke to your vet today.
Keep it fun and educational and informative~ no one wants to listen to and learn from a member who is accusatory and incorrect. :rolleye2:

Ouch neg repped, guess some people just don't like Pulp fiction.;)(wasn't the op)

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Originally Posted by starmom

You seem to have first engaged in mental masturbation and then implied that owners had caused the prolapse due to aggressive or incorrect popping technique.
You recanted after a vet educated you but yet continued with your thoughts of owners hurting snakes via popping them! I think at that point it might have been wise to step back.....IMO.
I feel that the reason there are videos happening on herp care (Brian's and Adam's; hardly "so many") is due to the herp hobby's tremendous growth and the desire to educate; always a good thing, as you discovered when you spoke to your vet today.
Keep it fun and educational and informative~ no one wants to listen to and learn from a member who is accusatory and incorrect. :rolleye2:

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Sry its seems im accusatory and it does to me also and for that im sorry.

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

No just talking with my vet. And the herp vet(who my wife works for at the zoo) at my local zoo who says he gets calls all the time about popping snakes. And he tells me about the horror stories all the time.

So for me it was not that far fetched to think something like that can happen by bad popping.

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I still don't know what the horror stories are by popping though? Not prolapse, so what sort of horrible injuries are being inflicted on numerous ball pythons by popping according to the herp vet your wife works with?

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Originally Posted by rabernet

I still don't know what the horror stories are by popping though? Not prolapse, so what sort of horrible injuries are being inflicted on numerous ball pythons by popping according to the herp vet your wife works with?

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He wont tell me:weirdface

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

Just how many snakes are hurt by people that don't know the right way to pop would you say?

With the number of vids out now showing how to pop more people are trying it. How many of those get it right?

So is it such an outlandish comment??

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Damnit Jas, look what you started. Now vets are loaded with injured snakes because of people incorrectly popping them after watching a youtube video. *POP* :rofl:

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Also, can you link to the threads talking about prolapses that prompted this thread? I can't find them.

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Heres one
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=61213

And there were two last week.

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

Sry its seems im accusatory and it does to me also and for that im sorry.

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Very cool. We all blow it sometimes. :D

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Originally Posted by PythonWallace

Damnit Jas, look what you started. Now vets are loaded with injured snakes because of people incorrectly popping them after watching a youtube video. *POP* :rofl:

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Totally cracks me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

He wont tell me:weirdface

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I could be wrong as Ive only popped a couple times but doent the prolapse come from the opposite side? As in if you were popping for sex you would be pushing on the tail end and im guessing a prolapse would come from the other side where the intestines are? ... in the end making a prolapse not possible from popping?

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Originally Posted by JoshJP7

I could be wrong as Ive only popped a couple times but doent the prolapse come from the opposite side? As in if you were popping for sex you would be pushing on the tail end and im guessing a prolapse would come from the other side where the intestines are? ... in the end making a prolapse not possible from popping?

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dONT YOU PUSH FROM BOTH ENDS?

you do push on the body(before the cloaca) but you do more pushing/rolling on the other end(tail)

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Originally Posted by Brimstone111888

Ouch neg repped, guess some people just don't like Pulp fiction.;)(wasn't the op)

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I think it was just the harshness of the original comment including the word @ss.

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Originally Posted by patthesnakeman

I agree, I took it kinda personal, seeing how my little BCI just prolapsed a few months ago. And I have never tried to pop her! You should think before you post here big guy!

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I don't know if the OP meant you since yours is a RTB instead of a BP. But I hadn't seen any other threads on prolapses recently. But then again, I've been down in the lower threads mostly, Morelia and General Boas.

Link, where are those threads you referred to?

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

He wont tell me:weirdface

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But... you said... he did...

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

No just talking with my vet. And the herp vet(who my wife works for at the zoo) at my local zoo who says he gets calls all the time about popping snakes. And he tells me about the horror stories all the time.

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:weirdface

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Originally Posted by ladywhipple02

But... you said... he did...



:weirdface

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He tells me stories about what he sees and hears from people in general. Nothing specific about popping sort of speak.

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink
True enough but it does and can happen.

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Originally Posted by rabernet
Do you have hard data that supports that assumption? How often does it happen?

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No just talking with my vet. And the herp vet(who my wife works for at the zoo) at my local zoo who says he gets calls all the time about popping snakes. And he tells me about the horror stories all the time.

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

He tells me stories about what he sees and hears from people in general. Nothing specific about popping sort of speak.

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So, you just assume that popping causes injuries, which prompted this thread? :confuzd:

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Originally Posted by rabernet

So, you just assume that popping causes injuries, which prompted this thread? :confuzd:

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For the last time I DO THINK if popping is done wrong it can cause injuries.

Show me it can't?

So you make a thread because you feel that Ball Python prolapsed are due to

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a bunch of failed attempts at popping.

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Yet your vet who tells you

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about the horror stories all the time.

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and yet

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wont tell

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and then

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tells stories about what he sees and hears from people in general. Nothing specific about popping sort of speak.

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I am confused here so what was the purpose of the post again? :rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by GA_Ball_Pythons

So you make a thread because you feel that Ball Python prolapsed are due to

Yet your vet who tells you and yet and then

I am confused here so what was the purpose of the post again? :rolleye2:

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Sry it kind of hard for you but its two dif vets.

Man, I would have given up two pages ago.

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

For the last time I DO THINK if popping is done wrong it can cause injuries.

Show me it can't?

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I think that since you drew the conclusion that it does, the burden of proof is on you.

I've popped more ball pythons than I can count, without a single injury. I also can't remember anyone reporting on this forum at least, that anyone has caused injuries to their ball pythons by popping them.

BP.Net has the best drama of any snake forums I have ever seen and I have seen a ton. This place rocks. I love it. :salute:

Anyhow, I'm sure someone out there in snake-land has damaged their snake by popping incorrectly. Although, I have never seen, or read a case of it happening.

I'm not sure man. You put yourself between a rock and I hard place by starting this thread.

I for one, would admit if I was popping a snake and it prolapsed, because I would want the proper help. Heck, I have done dumber and admitted it. :P

Just me though.

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Originally Posted by TheMissingLink

Sry it kind of hard for you but its two dif vets.

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Well than what are those specific horror stories, either one of those vet told you about?

How many prolapsed has he seen? and how many are due to

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a bunch of failed attempts at popping

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So the guy thought all the Prolapses that have been showing up on this board as of late could be caused by bad popping.

And all you so called experts jump down his neck.

Some of you need to get over yourselfs:gj:

He is right about one thing there are some vids showing up Ralph Davis has one Adam has one i could see where a first timer can screw up and hurt an animal.

But some of you seem to think you cant hurt an animal from popping and your dead wrong and thats were he right.

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Originally Posted by APBTOwner

BP.Net has the best drama of any snake forums I have ever seen and I have seen a ton. This place rocks. I love it. :salute:

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Go to the BOI :rolleyes:

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But some of you seem to think you cant hurt an animal from popping

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No one ever said that!

The problem that people are having here is that the OP jump on conclusions rather quickly

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there has been two or three threads on this prolapse mess in a week.

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All i see is a bunch of failed attempts at popping.

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