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  • 02-14-2008, 07:33 PM
    Ace159
    where to feed
    where do u guys feed ur snakes.. a plastic tuba ware container or something like that?
  • 02-14-2008, 07:56 PM
    Nate
    Re: where to feed
    right in the enclosure...no need to move them :)
  • 02-14-2008, 07:58 PM
    mtxsub7
    Re: where to feed
    agreed w/nathan
  • 02-14-2008, 07:59 PM
    Moriar
    Re: where to feed
    i feed in another sterilite container, with the exception of one of my more shy snakes which i feed inside the enclosure. either way is fine.
  • 02-14-2008, 07:59 PM
    stangs13
    Re: where to feed
    I feed in the enclosure, there feeding response is to wild to be able to get a hand on them anyway..lol.
  • 02-14-2008, 08:06 PM
    Ace159
    Re: where to feed
    really i was told by alot of different snake people to never feed in there home..
  • 02-14-2008, 08:15 PM
    spix14
    Re: where to feed
    A lot of people say it will cause the snake to bite you when you open the cage, since they associate the cage opening with feeding time...I've never had this problem with any of my snakes, and I feed them all in their enclousures. But it's a matter of personal preference, really. If you want to feed them in a separate container, and your snakes eat fine that way, then more power to you.
  • 02-14-2008, 08:57 PM
    BMorrison
    Re: where to feed
    I agree with spix14. I take Furio out and put him in a big plastic tubbed filled half with bedding and the other half empty and put the heated up mouse on the empty side and he doesn't seem to mind :)
  • 02-14-2008, 08:58 PM
    Reverend Jones
    Re: where to feed
    I have a smaller enclosure that I feed in. I have also used a plastic tub with good results. My guys are both good eaters usually. I have had some refusal to eat, but that's usually around shedding times. Guess I'm lucky about it.
  • 02-14-2008, 09:14 PM
    Ace159
    Re: where to feed
    not much of refusal but iv been told there more likley to bite u
  • 02-14-2008, 09:15 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: where to feed
    In the rack system. Open bin insert rodent Done deal.
  • 02-14-2008, 09:20 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: where to feed
    The take out snake theory is an old wives tale. if it had any truth then your snake would think he is eating everytime you took him out. People think that way not snakes.
  • 02-14-2008, 09:21 PM
    Ace159
    Re: where to feed
    hmmm....
  • 02-14-2008, 09:47 PM
    Chubbz
    Re: where to feed
    i feed in the cage cause i dont see a reason to stress them just to feed them
  • 02-14-2008, 10:20 PM
    SteelerFreak89
    Re: where to feed
    each side have their opinions. i happen to feed mine in a seperate plastic container so I can clean her home and make sure she won't eat the substrate.
  • 02-14-2008, 10:23 PM
    Ace159
    Re: where to feed
    yea...
  • 02-14-2008, 10:28 PM
    JASBALLS
    Re: where to feed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SteelerFreak89 View Post
    each side have their opinions. i happen to feed mine in a seperate plastic container so I can clean her home and make sure she won't eat the substrate.

    Newspaper wont hurt them! LOL!
  • 02-14-2008, 10:39 PM
    SteelerFreak89
    Re: where to feed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JASBALLS View Post
    Newspaper wont hurt them! LOL!

    you never know. if she reads about too much of the violence in baltimore, it may corrupt her fragile mind. :pinkele:
  • 02-14-2008, 10:39 PM
    TheMissingLink
    Re: where to feed
    Enclosure unless feed day falls on the same day as cleaning day then it's tubs.
  • 02-14-2008, 10:40 PM
    TheMissingLink
    Re: where to feed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SteelerFreak89 View Post
    you never know. if she reads about too much of the violence in baltimore, it may corrupt her fragile mind. :pinkele:

    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
  • 02-14-2008, 10:43 PM
    TanyaL
    Re: where to feed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SteelerFreak89 View Post
    each side have their opinions. i happen to feed mine in a seperate plastic container so I can clean her home and make sure she won't eat the substrate.

    DITTO - My son is responsible for feeding and he is more comfortable feeding in a seperate tank, on newspaper. While Foster is eating, the tank is being cleaned.
  • 02-14-2008, 10:49 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: where to feed
    there is nothing wrong with feeding in the enclosure.

    HOWEVER, I have ALWAYS fed all of my snakes (not all ball pythons) in a cooler. I put the snake in the cooler, put the cover on. come back a minute or two later and put the rodent in.

    I like to do this because to me, rodents are dirty. if fed live, the rodents poop and pee everywhere. if fed f/t, often when the snake is swallowing, nasty will still come out... to me, that means it is time to clean the enclosure.

    When my snakes go in the cooler, they know EXACTLY what time it is. I NEVER have to worry about them swallowing substrate, and instead of cleaning out all the tubs and tanks I simply spray out the cooler when done. It works for me, and I would recomend seperate container feeding to anyone with a small collection for these reasons.

    Keep in mind, many on this site have collections so large that feeding in a seperate container would be realistic.

    My personal opinion is that anyone with a smaller collection would be better off feeding in a seperate enclosure.
  • 02-14-2008, 10:55 PM
    Dvas_Romeo
    Re: where to feed
    I feed my ball and blood in their enclosures and there's never been any aggression issues at feeding or handling time!
  • 02-14-2008, 10:55 PM
    Reverend Jones
    Re: where to feed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ace159 View Post
    not much of refusal but iv been told there more likley to bite u


    I haven't had any attempts to bite. My guys are a little scared of being picked up at first, but they calm down pretty quick. I've had one of them strike at the side of the glass when a kid in my class kept staring at him, but except for that, they're really mellow:cool:
  • 02-14-2008, 11:32 PM
    Mike Cavanaugh
    Re: where to feed
    Keep in mind, many on this site have collections so large that feeding in a seperate container would be realistic.

    correction! unrealistic!!!!
  • 02-14-2008, 11:46 PM
    Argentra
    Re: where to feed
    Both here. I feed my corns (with the exception of the little 6mth old) in their enclosures, mainly because they are adults and have violent feeding responses. :) Since I pre-scent on feeding days, they know the difference and don't try to strike when I just open the cages otherwise.
    My BallPythons, however, are both fed in separate tubs for two main reasons: 1- I like to clean their enclosures while they're eating, and 2- I seem to get a better feeding response that way, since when they go into the box, they know food is on the way.

    Of course, it doesn't always work... and when it doesn't it's my fault. :oops: This last feeding day, I gave the mouse a good whack and set it in Nagini's tub with her, then went about cleaning. Checked back 20 minutes later to find the darn mouse running around in the tub and my poor little girl curled up in a corner! Dratted thing wasn't dead! Talk about Mighty Mouse... and when it was finally out properly, she was too scared of it to eat! Had to skip a week with her and give the PK mouse to one of the corns. Luckily it didn't touch her, but having your food come back to life would scare anyone... Oh well.
  • 02-15-2008, 01:03 AM
    Ace159
    Re: where to feed
    ok im talking about just one snake on a small scale....i have a milk snake and he hates me idk why and i dont know how to make him like me but the first time him started striking at me was when i took him out of his enclosure to feed him then he never went back to being nice.... i feed him in a tuba ware container closed....idk if thats the right way to go please give me suggestions on feeding snakes out side of enclosures...frozen mice
  • 02-15-2008, 01:09 AM
    Nate
    Re: where to feed
    If he's striking at you when you pick him up to feed him...then just feed him in his enclosure.
  • 02-15-2008, 01:09 AM
    Ace159
    Re: where to feed
    he strikes me no matter what
  • 02-15-2008, 02:33 AM
    Argentra
    Re: where to feed
    I've noticed, both here and at the zoo, that colubrids usually are easier to feed in the enclosure. The best thing you can do is to start feeding him in his cage, leave him be for those next two days, then try handling him. Is he striking only when you reach for him or even when you already have him held??
    If it's only when reaching, then it's a reaction to the hand coming down for him. In that case, obstruct his view by placing his hide (or something similar) in front of his face/over his head then stroke his back a bit before picking him up. I've found that works wonders with my corns when they're a bit jumpy.
    If he strikes all the time, whether you're holding him or not... then I'm at a loss. I guess you could just try the gentleness method for a while and see if he chills out... Good luck either way.
  • 02-15-2008, 10:07 AM
    Brimstone111888
    Re: where to feed
    I feed my snakes in my enclosure and I lost my arm because they get so aggressive.....:rolleyes:

    *End sarcasm*

    There is no true to the myth of a snake becoming aggressive because you feed it in the cage. I feed all mine in their enclosure, but in a separate container is also a good means of feeding them.
  • 02-15-2008, 10:20 AM
    extensive
    Re: where to feed
    in the enclosure for over 12 years.
  • 02-15-2008, 10:22 AM
    JLC
    Re: where to feed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ace159 View Post
    ok im talking about just one snake on a small scale....i have a milk snake and he hates me idk why and i dont know how to make him like me but the first time him started striking at me was when i took him out of his enclosure to feed him then he never went back to being nice.... i feed him in a tuba ware container closed....idk if thats the right way to go please give me suggestions on feeding snakes out side of enclosures...frozen mice

    There really is no right or wrong answer to this. It's whatever works for you and your snake. If you're uncomfortable picking him up to move him to another tub for feeding...then you don't have to. But if you prefer to do it that way, then that is fine, too. If the snake eats either way, then you can decide purely on personal preference.

    As for the snake being aggressive toward you...how old is it? Baby and juvi snakes are often more easily stressed and frightened because EVERYthing in the world seems like a predator to them. They usually outgrow that phase as they get larger, gain a little confidence, and learn the routine of their life and the fact that the giant warm-blooded creature that reaches for them isn't going to hurt them. But sometimes, a snake will just stay onery and will never acclimate to human handling....and that won't change whether you feed in its enclosure or in a separate one.
  • 02-15-2008, 11:38 AM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: where to feed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mcavana View Post
    Keep in mind, many on this site have collections so large that feeding in a seperate container would be realistic.

    correction! unrealistic!!!!

    very true, taking out 30 + snakes everyweek would be nuts!
  • 02-15-2008, 12:04 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: where to feed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ace159 View Post
    not much of refusal but iv been told there more likley to bite u

    It's a myth they are not gonna mistake your hand for food because you feed in the enclosure.

    The bottom line is that you feed your snake based on what you feel most comfortable with and what is most convenient for you, just don’t do it based on a myth.

    Also keep in mind that handling and moving a BP right before feeding can cause enough stress to lead to a refusal.

    I feed all my BP in their enclosure, the colubrids however due to their very small size (for now) are fed in a small feeding container (it makes it easier) once they will be bigger they will be fed in their enclosure like everyone else.
  • 02-15-2008, 02:16 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: where to feed
    While I see no issue with feeding in the enclosure I find it works best for us because while one person is concentrating on feeding the snakes in the seperate tubs, the rack tubs can be cleaned and be readied for the snakes to go back in. It just works faster for us, but on occasion, if there is nothing to clean (no presents :P) then we can feed in the enclosure.
  • 02-15-2008, 05:12 PM
    Ace159
    Re: where to feed
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Argentra View Post
    I've noticed, both here and at the zoo, that colubrids usually are easier to feed in the enclosure. The best thing you can do is to start feeding him in his cage, leave him be for those next two days, then try handling him. Is he striking only when you reach for him or even when you already have him held??
    If it's only when reaching, then it's a reaction to the hand coming down for him. In that case, obstruct his view by placing his hide (or something similar) in front of his face/over his head then stroke his back a bit before picking him up. I've found that works wonders with my corns when they're a bit jumpy.
    If he strikes all the time, whether you're holding him or not... then I'm at a loss. I guess you could just try the gentleness method for a while and see if he chills out... Good luck either way.




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