Triple het co-dom square!?!

reading in the nerd book doesn't have triple co-dom squares in there.

i don't think the double het recessive one works for co-doms. can anyone explain how to go about that square or has a link to something that could be helpful?

If you read the Nerd website and explanation of genetics, they tell you how to create a double het punnet square. The same technique applies for triple, quadruple, etc.

You must first figure out all of the combinations of the genes, and place them into the square, and work it from there just like a regular punnet.

http://www.newenglandreptile.com/gen...recessive.html

Here, this is a punnet square for a cross between 2 Het caramels, het hypo, het piedbalds. Possibly producing the famed Caramel glow piedbald! (The dreamsicle)

Sorry it doesnt have any co-doms in there, this was the only triple het animal I could think of. :P

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...ehetpunnet.jpg

Just by looking at it, I think some are missing. That looks like a double het punnet square I did today.
CcPpGg X CcPpG

CPG, cPG, CpG Cpg, cpG, cpg

So it should be a 6X6 square instead of a 4X4. Am I right, or way off?

wouldn't that be a bigger square. I thought a triple het would have more possible combinations than that?

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

Possibly producing the famed Caramel glow piedbald! (The dreamsicle)

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PSSSSTTT

Dreamsicle is a Lav. Albino Pied :gj:

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Dreamsicle is a Lav. Albino Pied

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woops! lol

And yes, its a triple het punnet. LOL, your making me doubt myself... but it works out fine...

wouldn't co dom genetics be different?

In squares, co-dom is just the same as recessive and dominant in terms of making the square and filling it out. Co-dom just means it shows up in its het form. So a pastel is het for super pastel. Still shows up visually and is Pp in a square.

Good gravy. This is why I won't be breeding morphs anytime soon. :weirdface

okokok, never mind, I've lost my mind...

I spend most of my history class doing punnet squares. I find it so much fun to see what you could possibly get. Just recently I was doing a punnet to try and find out the best way to an axanthic killer bee. :) Beautiful snakes and the punnet is fun.

ok i think i got it now. was starting it like recessive but was like hmm wait a sec! wanted to make sure prior to donging around!

Don't worry, it's quite simple when you get the hang of it! Trust me, if I can figure it out, anyone can! ;) The good thing about these is that it doesn't matter which morph it is, the square is always pretty much the same.

Ok, after my lunch break doing this, I will not touch snake punnets ever again. I swear rats are so much easier... LOL

Resulting in 1 in 64 chance of hitting a triple het for each egg....

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ehetpunnet.jpg

You can do punnets for rats? :weirdface: You'll have to school me in rat genetics if I am to get into breeding rats. :)

LOL, I must just be fried right now, I've done triple and quad punnets before, for some reason the first one looked right to me. Oh well,

yes rats can be done with punnets too. It's also a lot easier to get into the high amounts of recessive genes because there are so many colors, patterns, coats and ears and tail stuff to be modified all bundled up into one rat.

LOL, that stupid thing isnt even entirely right... I'm bushed... :cry:

Hang on, I've got one, here:

http://www.freewebs.com/roguestar/triple.jpg

I marked the morphs with just a, b and c, they can be whichever. I hope I didn't make any typos...

Man you are fast... ;)

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Hang on, I've got one, here:

http://www.freewebs.com/roguestar/triple.jpg

I marked the morphs with just a, b and c, they can be whichever. I hope I didn't make any typos...

Man you are fast... ;)

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It probably would have been easier with ABC's... lol. It's not even worth doing the punnets when it comes to snakes. Just breed em together! ;)

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Originally Posted by littleindiangirl

It probably would have been easier with ABC's... lol. It's not even worth doing the punnets when it comes to snakes. Just breed em together! ;)

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It takes an act of of the morph gods to hit the odds that you want. Just keep trying it till the stars align

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Originally Posted by Fearless

It takes an act of of the morph gods to hit the odds that you want. Just keep trying it till the stars align

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You have to do the square thing to make sure your combo is even possible! Then you can start :please: the morph gods. If you keep putting your axanthic with your albino you will never get a snow regardless of how the stars are aligned!

Here is a quad gene cross I did on a different forum that supports html tables.

http://constrictors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17097

It was for a specific recessive combo I was asked for but Punnett's are for inheritance possibilities and inheritance happens at the genotype level which is independent of mutation type (as long as we exclude sex linked). So we could consider this a quad co-dominant cross if we just change the key to define the letters differently.

It could use some more polishing but if anyone wants it I've got Excel formulas and a macro to make these html type Punnett squares much more easily than it looks.