Pic request....Blue Eye Lucy from Mojo x Mojo

would anyone happen to have a pic of an adult? I know all lucy's have subtle differences and I'm just curious to how the mojo x mojo turns out in the long run. thanks

ha-ha...........that what I thought. Everyones complaining about all the "white" snakes but I don't think too many people actually have them.........

haha give it a few months

i dont know why people complain about the white snaes they are cool you have the snow with light pink eyes the blue eyed lucy the black eyed lucy i think its neat to see snakes with no pigment and colored eyes

what complaints do people have about them? i have yet to hear anything. i just know that if i have my way ill have a bel produced from a butter x butter

I don't think anyone complains about them:colbert:. They are just grading them as you would any morph. Trust me no one complains when a lucy pops out of an egg LOL.

Some are higher white and some tend to have slight coloration on the heads. Lessers and butters tend to be whiter than mojaves, thats all. They are all strikingly beautiful. It makes sense since the lesser and butter is a lighter animal than the mojave. There are lots of pics floating around but the best way to see one is at a show where you can make a live comparison.

People are tired of white snakes because that is the end of the line for that morph. Leucistic means cells can't make color pigment, so super pastel BEL's would be all white. They are good though if you want no "waste" in breeding.

Don't get me wrong I want a BEL, but I can understand why some people are tired of them.

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Originally Posted by Brimstone111888

People are tired of white snakes because that is the end of the line for that morph. Leucistic means cells can't make color pigment, so super pastel BEL's would be all white. They are good though if you want no "waste" in breeding.

Don't get me wrong I want a BEL, but I can understand why some people are tired of them.

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What has happened is that people are now making combinations of morphs and when you get to a lucy it is a wash or dead end, no more combos, everything is white. A pastel or cinny make more interesting combos in the super form therefore more possibilities. I don't think tired is the correct word, maybe not as excited as they used to be;)

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

What has happened is that people are now making combinations of morphs and when you get to a lucy it is a wash or dead end, no more combos, everything is white. A pastel or cinny make more interesting combos in the super form therefore more possibilities. I don't think tired is the correct word, maybe not as excited as they used to be;)

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Thats what I meant to say, but I had the wrong verbage.:)

here is a link to one.
i would prob buy a blue eye but wouldnt breed them

http://ballpython.com/page.php?topic=available

Could also be people are tired of them because so many different morphs Super form is a BEL. Too many different ways to make the same looking snake. I know each one looks a little bit different as to how clean it looks and color of the eyes, etc. but basically they all look similar. Nothing new can be made unless somehow somewhere along the line the gene mutated and got a snake that was a completely different color (just me dreaming, if only)

Personaly i think just because bel combos are all white doesnt mean its not fun anymore. A super pastel bel would be all white, but also produce all lesser pastels(if its a lesser bel...)

Its what they can have thats fun.

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What has happened is that people are now making combinations of morphs and when you get to a lucy it is a wash or dead end, no more combos, everything is white. A pastel or cinny make more interesting combos in the super form therefore more possibilities. I don't think tired is the correct word, maybe not as excited as they used to be

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I disagree, I dont' consider it a dead end at all. I can't wait to have an all white snake. Not only are they beautiful animals all on their own, but the breeding possibilities are endless. EVERY egg that you produce will be a morph. No more normal males that you have a hard time even finding a home for. If I had a nice little group of leucistic females, I could breed all of my recessive stuff to them and then instead of having rack after rack of normal looking hets, I could have rack after rack of morphs that are also het for something else. Personally I think it's a winning situation all around.

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Originally Posted by MarkS

I disagree, I dont' consider it a dead end at all. I can't wait to have an all white snake. Not only are they beautiful animals all on their own, but the breeding possibilities are endless. EVERY egg that you produce will be a morph. No more normal males that you have a hard time even finding a home for. If I had a nice little group of leucistic females, I could breed all of my recessive stuff to them and then instead of having rack after rack of normal looking hets, I could have rack after rack of morphs that are also het for something else. Personally I think it's a winning situation all around.

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Mark I agree with you that they are a gem of an animal from a breeders standpoint. Who wouldn't want to have lucy females. But I have been told thats why lucy producing animals have dropped so quickly in value. I look foward to having a lucy one day too.