what is the best type of housing

i've been looking at getting a python for a while now but i can't dicide wheather or not i should get a tank or tub.... anybody got any suggestions? :confused:

I love tubs. They are not as pretty as a well decorated tank, but are fantastic for humidity, temps and cleaning. They are dirt cheap to boot! Being able to pick them up at places like Walmart and Target make them super easy to pick up. Just my .02:)

tubs sound good to me but i don't think they can hold retics or anyother large speices

what type of snake you housing?

i was thinking about housing a darwf rectic or Super dawrf rectic

Oh well there's the confusion then, you put your question in BP Husbandry so folks are going to assume you're asking about ball python housing. I'll move your question over to Giant Pythons so you'll get information more appropriate to housing those types of snakes. :)

O.O srry

4' x 2' will work for a super dwarf retic. If by just "dwarf retic", you mean a jampea dwarf then you will need something bigger like a 6' x 2'/3'.

Should have mentioned what brand of cage. Visions are the best IMO.

thanks

If your going with a Jampean, then get the T-10, from Animal Plastics. I prefer them over Vision and other brands, and they hold up excellent to abuse from both you, and the animal. On that note though, what are you looking for in a giant? Maybe I could help you select a species your looking for?

in a giant i'm looking for a animal that doesnt get to frisky but is still manable to move during a cage cleaning. Any suggestions?

Personally, if you could afford it, I'd go for a Black headed Python. Although they are an expensive initial buy, their care, and feeding isn't that much of a cost, compared to Burms, Retics, or AfRocks. They get large, yet manageable, and are incredibly gorgeous displays, as well as respectful captives.

Another animal would be the Coastal Carpet Python. They're very gorgeous in their own right, get to large, yet manageable sizes, and are for the most part, docile.

Blood Pythons are another great captive. If you put in the effort, and do your homework, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to keep them. They get to a large size, rather girthy, and feed readily. They are very nice looking animals out there, for decent prices as well.

True giant species to look at, and consider, are males of the giant species. Male Burmese Pythons do not get very large on average, come in attractive color morphs, and care is pretty straight-forward. The giant I would least recommend has to be the AfRock (African Rock Python, Python sebae). They are for very experienced keepers, only! Not to say if one put forth the effort, they couldn't care for one...but these giants are very dangerous in the hands of the inexperienced.

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Personally, if you could afford it, I'd go for a Black headed Python. Although they are an expensive initial buy, their care, and feeding isn't that much of a cost, compared to Burms, Retics, or AfRocks. They get large, yet manageable, and are incredibly gorgeous displays, as well as respectful captives.

Another animal would be the Coastal Carpet Python. They're very gorgeous in their own right, get to large, yet manageable sizes, and are for the most part, docile.

Blood Pythons are another great captive. If you put in the effort, and do your homework, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to keep them. They get to a large size, rather girthy, and feed readily. They are very nice looking animals out there, for decent prices as well.

True giant species to look at, and consider, are males of the giant species. Male Burmese Pythons do not get very large on average, come in attractive color morphs, and care is pretty straight-forward. The giant I would least recommend has to be the AfRock (African Rock Python, Python sebae). They are for very experienced keepers, only! Not to say if one put forth the effort, they couldn't care for one...but these giants are very dangerous in the hands of the inexperienced.

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LOOOOVE Black heads, good luck finding some for sale though. I know they're out there, just so few in numbers. :P

I'm a fan of bloods, all 3 species, but I have my heart with the Sumatran short tails (aka Black Blood). ;) I lubs em.

i see i'll do some research on each of the speices and i totally agree with your commment about the african rock python. Those snakes get bigg ( sometimes mean) also from what little i read....:rolleyes: i heard that they take everything as fair game

They take a bit of looking around, but oh so worth it! They reminds me of Indigo's, or Cribo's almost. The way they move, feed, and react. Very intelligent snakes. Bloods have to be one of my favorites too....but deep down, African Rocks are always my #1 :P

Do you own any rocks? and if so what do sized enclosure do you keep them in? just some question

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i see i'll do some research on each of the speices and i totally agree with your commment about the african rock python. Those snakes get bigg ( sometimes mean) also from what little i read....:rolleyes: i heard that they take everything as fair game

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They take larger prey on average, than any other giant in the wild, upwards of 100-140% their body weight. In turn, they have more of a bite force, as well as some power and speed to back it up. They're not exactly mean, but they do get set off very easily. Almost anything their size is fair game, including any mammal or bird.

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Do you own any rocks? and if so what do sized enclosure do you keep them in? just some question

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I used to own a very, very large collection of rocks, but lost them in a neighborhood fire, back in august along with my other snakes....even my Het. Daddy weirds died in that fire. I kept my females in AP T60's, T65's, and T25's. The males I kept in T10's, and T25's.

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They take a bit of looking around, but oh so worth it! They reminds me of Indigo's, or Cribo's almost. The way they move, feed, and react. Very intelligent snakes. Bloods have to be one of my favorites too....but deep down, African Rocks are always my #1 :P

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That's what everyone says about Black heads, just like Womas, they're so intelligent. It's one of my dream pythons to keep, that and Boelen's python. Though I doubt I will be able to get my hands on either. Those two fascinate me!

Boelens aren't too hard to find. Its just what time of year to start looking. They run about $5,000 a piece or so. I've debated picking some up....

As for the woma's...I gotta say, Blackheads blew them out of the water towards intelligence!

Andrew, you must have your fingers into everything! I like you ;)

Haha, I browse and plan a lot. Even thought I kept AfRocks as a majority, I kept alot of odds and ends, for fun. :D

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I used to own a very, very large collection of rocks, but lost them in a neighborhood fire, back in august along with my other snakes....even my Het. Daddy weirds died in that fire. I kept my females in AP T60's, T65's, and T25's. The males I kept in T10's, and T25's.

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i'm srry to hear that it must have been a fasinating collection:(

Andrew, thanks so much for sharing your insight, especially about the enjoyment of owning a blackhead and their apparent intelligence over womas. I've always loved the look and size of both species, so it's very interesting to hear some comments from a keeper who has experience with them. =)

:Dyea,
thanks for the info man i really sparked in interest in me :D

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They take a bit of looking around, but oh so worth it! They reminds me of Indigo's, or Cribo's almost. The way they move, feed, and react. Very intelligent snakes. Bloods have to be one of my favorites too....but deep down, African Rocks are always my #1 :P

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Black heads need a lot of room. Like the Drys, they love to cruise and are very handle-able. Our male is in a 6' AP and I'm thinking of bumping him up to an 8 footer. The aspidites in general are like big colubrids in so many ways.....

They are out there and are becoming more and more available. Prices are also finally beginning to drop.

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Black heads need a lot of room. Like the Drys, they love to cruise and are very handle-able. Our male is in a 6' AP and I'm thinking of bumping him up to an 8 footer. The aspidites in general are like big colubrids in so many ways.....

They are out there and are becoming more and more available. Prices are also finally beginning to drop.

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yea thanks god:bow: i remember when the dawrf retic and all retic were like a couple of grand:8: now they are down to like 320 euro