alot of questions, and requests...

Ok, im meeting up with my local breeder who I work with on a regular basis, he has an 07 female spider that hes bringing to show us tonight..its his last one but he knows we want a spider from 07 so we can start breeding sooner than next next year because of having an 08 baby.. we still have intentions of getting an 8-ball spider in april but at least this way we can get one now too :) more spiders bred to pastel hazard better chances of bees as you can imagine.. onto my requests and questions..



who here actually likes highwhite spiders? (i havnt seen enough of both to have an opinion)

who here actually likes spotless (meaning no spots in pattern) spiders?

can everyone who has photos of their spider both adult and baby-juvinile please post it so i can see the different variations.

I plan to take my camera with me tonight so i can take photos and think about what i want for sure with the ability to still see the what the animal looks like before making our choice. he has agreed to let us make a deposit on the animal so he will hold it for us...

for those of you who have done payment plans, how did you do it so you know the person youve given your money to wont rip you off and say you gave them nothing besides a written reciept of course. I do plan on giving him any/all money by way of check so i have proof, im not afraid of him ripping us off but i want to cover our butts too.. its no different than i would do with anyone else, even family.


TIA!

I don't have any spiders, so can't post pics of them. But...I do like a nice high-white spider...and I love the reduced pattern ones with little-to-no spots. That's just my personal preference.

As for the payment plans...Using checks is a good way to start because then your bank will be able to hold onto that proof for you should you need it in the future. Make a note on the "note" line that it's a payment for a specific snake and what the balance owed still is as of that check. On the last check, mark on the note line "paid in full". AND AND AND make sure you get a signed receipt for all monies that change hands.

Even if someone isn't out to rip anyone off, misunderstandings CAN occur where one party feels they have paid X amount and the other party thinks it is different. The steps listed above, as well as a pre-written "contract" that states exactly how much money is to be spent and over how much time, will help prevent that.

Good luck with it!

I like clean (not spot) mid to high white spiders

Here is Zoe

I still need to update on pics she is now 1600 grams :O

Baby

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/Zoe/Zoe1.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...iF1_0307_1.jpg

And back in March

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...iF1_0307_3.jpg

Pick what YOU like, just don’t pick a spider just to pick one or have a head start, pick one that “speaks” to you, and that you will know when you see it.

thanks JLC, those are some good ideas.. i will definetly talk to him about that tonight.

Deborah, thank you for your input! Even if I dont take the female he has tonight Im going to get one eventually so im not really in any hurry, i am however very excited to have one finally. I never thought I would ever be able to afford any kind of morph let alone a pastel AND a spider. we have been thinking about what other morphs we want to add to our collection when we order and receive our rack. Your spider is absolutly beautiful! (not to mentain your photos are PERFECT & FLAWLESS) I never really liked high white before and the more i look around the more im liking what i see :D

I don't mind high white spiders as long as they are also reduced and have a ton of orange, but I'm most concerned about them having reduced patterns and not having many or any spots. That's just me. I just posted a couple of new pics of my low-white spider here: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...threadid=59277 and here he is as a youngster:
http://a592.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...3e87b1db8f.jpg

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who here actually likes highwhite spiders? (i havnt seen enough of both to have an opinion)

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I love High whites.

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who here actually likes spotless (meaning no spots in pattern) spiders?

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I love patterns so no spot less for me

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can everyone who has photos of their spider both adult and baby-juvinile please post it so i can see the different variations.

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Here is my spider as a baby and an adult

Baby
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../0/MSpider.JPG

Adult
http://www.wildmorphs.com/uploads/Morphs/spiderball.jpg

http://www.wildmorphs.com/uploads/spidershed.JPG

great shots everyone!!! BEAUtiful photos and snakes


thank you so much for your input

I think im actually starting to like the high white more than no white


freakyfrog, your spider doesnt look to have any spots.. hehehe

I was going to say the same thing to Ed - your is spotless (aka, reduced pattern).

I love reduced pattern spiders (like that's a big surprise to anyone!:P) and I prefer low white.

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I think im actually starting to like the high white more than no white


freakyfrog, your spider doesnt look to have any spots.. hehehe

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Depends on what you consider spots. I love spiders with patterns so mine is perfect for me I first though that I got a Pinstripe by mistake cause of his huge neck stripe.

Best of luck spiders are a must have for any collection..

PS this is him like 2 weeks ago

http://www.wildmorphs.com/uploads/Mo...annahlock1.JPG

http://www.extensivesnare.info/galle...serialNumber=2

here is my '06 female

I like high white, spotless patterns. This is my girl.

As a baby:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...F01_pic2-1.jpg

About a month ago, about 300g.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...s/IMG_1540.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...s/IMG_1543.jpg

The best thing about spiders is their personality. She is very curious and is always cruising. Eats like a champ too.

For me, spiders have to be spotless, either high white or low white, no orange(turns to brown, and brown makes brown bees, etc), and a nice even head pattern. I like their markings to be thin stripes too. I love bright, crisp-patterned, cleanly marked spiders. Took me forever to find the one I have :) Even though she has a defect, I like her just the same.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0065-1.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...y/PICT0062.jpg

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...PICT0051-1.jpg

My personal favorite look to a spider would have to be high white with yellow/orange sprinkled/streaked in the existing white.

As for spots my Female Spider has one spot but with it makes a very cool marking. I don't see anything wrong with spotted spiders but in my "collection" I want to work with the reduced pattern look.

I love crazy head patterns too...That isn't a must but there's just something about a head pattern that makes me melt.

Just remember get what YOU like.

Oh and you better take lots of pics :8:

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For me, spiders have to be spotless, either high white or low white, no orange(turns to brown, and brown makes brown bees, etc

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Is that true? I didn't know that about the orange. Luckily mine doesn't have much, but I was planning to buy one with a ton of orange. If it turns brown and dirties up combos I'd rather stay away from them. I could have swarn I'd seen an adult with a ton of bright orange.

again, great information!! of course i would take a ton of pics but it would be a bit before we brought her home (payments) but at least i would have one or two pics of her either way tonight... i do like the high white the more i see it (its what gives a spider his/her look) becky yours is beautiful and i love what you described. i remember you talking about her defect, i have a knack for selecting defective animals hahaha.. good to know about the orange! I too like the thin lines. i cant wait to see what my guy has tonight!!!

thanks again everyone, i knew i could count on you all

btw what does the orange look like?

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Fno orange(turns to brown, and brown makes brown bees, etc)

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For whatever it's worth, I don't know that I necessarily agree with that ... I've seen some high orange adult spiders that would blow your mind ... they produce bees with a florescent colored yellow that really pop ... not to mention what high orange spiders do when worked into a honey bee project ... WOWZERS!

Not saying that every spider with a lot of orange does (just like not every bright yellow pastel doesn't stay that way), but it sure makes me like the orange ones a lot.

-adam

Ah ok, I guess I meant to say I don't like dark brown spiders. They just aren't very attractive to me. If they keep those orange and yellow tones into adulthood, then I'm all for it :) I love speckles of color, SO pretty!

I like them high white or low white and am also partial to ones that are reduced pattern without spots. But one thing I've learned in this hobby is that everyone is different and I know people who appreciate the opposite characteristics in morphs that I do.

Justin

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...lka/spider.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...a/DSC05243.jpg

My favorite part of spiders has to be their head markings, second is a spotless reduced pattern and then a medium to high amount of white.

My male spider...
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...s/IMG_4825.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/j...s/IMG_4853.jpg

Here is a few pics of my spider. He is around 600 grams. He was starting to go into shed in the pic, so he is normally a little lighter, but you get that picture.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...9/309_0047.jpg

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...9/309_0043.jpg

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...9/309_0042.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...4/HPIM0237.jpg
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...4/HPIM0233.jpg

Sorry for the artistic shots. I will take more conventional ones soon.


Boy-Subadult

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/P1030450.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/P1000111.jpg

Girl- Adult

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...s/DSCN1546.jpg

what exactly is spotting?

Spotting is where the Spider has alien heads or spots in the pattern.

My boy has a couple, as you can see in the pic

My favorite Spiders are spotless and moderately white. I spent alot of time looking for mine and was pretty picky about him. He has no spots.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s...spiderBela.jpg

LOOOOOOVE high whites! If i can get a decent photo of arachne I will post her up too.

Here is one with some spots
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...Zueschilin.jpg

And one with out and high white
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...er1smaller.jpg

They both are cool, depends what you like. Most prefer reduced no spot pattern with high white but there are many cool spiders!

I want mine with super high white, light colored, with reduced pattern, preffer no spots. And a wicked head pattern, maybe green color too?

Okay, as promised, I woke her highness up for some pics...

That gold dorsal highlight
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...y/IMG_3353.jpg

Her speckled white (I luv it!)
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...y/IMG_3355.jpg

Her crazy yellow belly
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...y/IMG_3354.jpg

And a closeup for good measure~
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...achneclose.jpg

When we got her from Adam, my jaw dropped. She was such a knock out. :gj:

well, I went and saw the female my breeder had..






she is the most beautiful spider I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!

She was exactly what i was fanticizing about i swear, she even has a name already and we havnt even paid for her yet!

check out the other thread im getting ready to post.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2122/...8bddb1637a.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2131/...96b0a7aa5e.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2271/...218ef7489d.jpg

Wow she is BEAUTIFUL!!!

Great choice!