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  • 01-09-2008, 03:29 AM
    Patrick Long
    Boa Experts Help With Question
    So I picked up another rescue RTB and was so surprised at her markings. they almost look like PIED spots. She has about five of them, and they are solid white with bright orange. What do you think this is? Just markings? old old scars that have regened scales with no pigment?

    Thanx guys!

    http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...eman/spot2.jpg
    http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...keman/spot.jpg
    http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...n/100_3400.jpg
  • 01-09-2008, 03:35 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    Yo jimi i see you there what do you think?
  • 01-09-2008, 03:36 AM
    JimiSnakes
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    Cause of the nose rub she/he has, I am going to say they are also rubs or something like that. Maybe even scars.
  • 01-09-2008, 03:37 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    They are wierd looking though, would a scar turn pure white like that with no identation or roughness?

    the scales dont look mangled at all, they look absolutely perfect
  • 01-09-2008, 03:39 AM
    JimiSnakes
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    Are the scales missing? or worn out looking? Are they the same texture in that spot as the rest of her?
  • 01-09-2008, 03:41 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    No, cuase i thought scar at first too, but the scales get all deformed and wrinkled right?

    heres another shot
    http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81...eman/spot3.jpg

    They seriously look like they just are missing pigment, but i didnt know if this could even happen.

    some seriously look like an orange crayon, they are bright
  • 01-09-2008, 03:53 AM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    Well Jimi I gotta sleep dude im burnt. lemme know what you think if you have any other ideas. peace out fellas
  • 01-09-2008, 03:18 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    anyone else?
  • 01-09-2008, 04:20 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    guess not, thanx all...err jimi
  • 01-09-2008, 06:49 PM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    Its hard to say Pat. Looks like an odd mark and I don't see any scarring. Scarring is usally a little rougher around the edges.
  • 01-09-2008, 07:24 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    They looks exactly like my boa's Baytril shot scars...I'd get you some new pics of her and her scars, but she's in shed right now...

    Lemme see if I've got some recent-ish pics that show her scars...
  • 01-09-2008, 07:31 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    I don't have any great pictures of her scars because honestly I try to take pictures so you DON'T see her scars...but if you look at this picture, the scars are circled in red.

    They used to have more white, but as the scars have aged, thankfully the whiteness has dulled to more orange and black:

    http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n...rmen_scars.jpg
  • 01-09-2008, 07:41 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    are the scales rough?
  • 01-10-2008, 12:38 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    No, they were never rough, although when they were white, it almost looked like that area was indented a bit...

    When she first shed, revealing the "white", her shed looked like it had actual scales in it...

    Carmen's scars are 18 months old and if you are stroking her and not looking, you can't really tell where they are.

    Here's my original posting when I discovered her scars =(. Sorry the pictures are gone: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=33281&
  • 01-10-2008, 12:55 PM
    MATT FISHER REPTILES
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    you are right those do look like pied marks. buy i doubt they are. i cant rember wich big breeder has a pied boa but i dont think it ever proved out. i think it was kahl.
  • 01-10-2008, 03:25 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    yeah i definitely dont think they are scars. no indention, no wrinkles, no marks. they are smooth perfect scales. soooo odd.
  • 01-10-2008, 03:28 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    Hehe, I would certainly hope for your sake that they aren't scars...I certainly don't wish them on anyone. =P
  • 01-11-2008, 01:37 AM
    lillyorchid
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MATT FISHER REPTILES View Post
    i cant rember wich big breeder has a pied boa but i dont think it ever proved out. i think it was kahl.

    Pete was in a deal in which he was going to buy a pair of "het pied" boa's from a guy in ?Germany? I believe it was. Apparently they were "proven", het's but the guy couldn't show any pictures of the pied babies, nor did Pete see any pied babies when he took a trip over to that breeders place. Things went south when things started to get fishy and Pete declined on buying those snakes.
  • 01-11-2008, 03:49 AM
    JimiSnakes
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cassandra View Post
    No, they were never rough, although when they were white, it almost looked like that area was indented a bit...

    When she first shed, revealing the "white", her shed looked like it had actual scales in it...

    Carmen's scars are 18 months old and if you are stroking her and not looking, you can't really tell where they are.

    Here's my original posting when I discovered her scars =(. Sorry the pictures are gone: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=33281&

    I'm going to second that one. It does look very much like baytril scarring. Good look cass. Boas don't "scar" like we do. The "scars" will smooth out to a visual only after a year at the most. Since they have scales, and not skin, they don't scar like we think of scarring. My big normal girl, Hestia, has "scarring" on her nose from a slight nose rub. It's never gone away, but it isn't noticeable to the touch at all. It's all visual now.
  • 01-11-2008, 02:40 PM
    lillyorchid
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    I agree on scarring. I've seen some boa's who have had baytril shots and their scales are now a different color and some do have white spots. Normally over time they will fade to a darker color but look and feel completely normal.

    My BP has some baytril scarring. Her scales in that area are a bit lighter then the others.
  • 01-14-2008, 01:28 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    Carmen should shed today-ish...I'll try to get some new pictures of her, some that actual show her scars. Like I said, I try not to show my baby's "bad side"...only her purty side. =D
  • 01-18-2008, 02:15 AM
    Brett89
    Re: Boa Experts Help With Question
    Maybe a little bit of calico? Doubt it, but would be cool.
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