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  • 01-05-2008, 02:20 PM
    Seneschal
    New reptile laws in Florida
    This is an article found in a newspaper the other day, typed word for word...this is everything they had in it. No other information was provided.

    New reptile owners in Florida face tougher requirements
    Owning some animals will require a permit and a microchip.
    Associated Press

    TALLAHASSEE--New rules for owning some reptiles in Florida are in effect.

    Anyone seeking to own a python, green anaconda, or Nile monitor lizard is required to get a permit and a microchip. The reptiles must be caged. Owners have to answer questions about basic reptile care and have a "bite response plan" plus an annual $100 fee.

    A permit is also required for red-eared slider turtles. It's illegal to allow the turtles to reproduce, and all eggs must be destroyed.

    More information about the reptile permits is available on the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Comission's Website, MyFWC.com/permits.

    A picture of a spider ball python is included with the text, "Owning a ball python such as this fellow is going to be tougher under new Florida rules. --Steve K. Zylius/Orange County Register"




    Just...urgh.
  • 01-05-2008, 02:25 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    Bite Response Plan?

    $100 annual fees?

    Microchips?

    That is all a little too much for some pythons, don't you think?
  • 01-05-2008, 02:34 PM
    Seneschal
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    Yes...because while I can understand wanting to microchip the larger snakes (because of how frequently they get released into the everglades and are harming the ecosystem, and they would want to be able to find them easily to recover them) it's ridiculous for other species. A "bite response plan" I can understand for a venomous species...but...for pythons? *shakes head* This is a case of politicians signing a bill regarding something they don't understand much about.
  • 01-05-2008, 02:37 PM
    Emilio
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    I thought it was for larger species nothing under 6 ft.:confused:
  • 01-05-2008, 02:44 PM
    neilgolli
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    The new law is for larger species and the newspaper or the individual making the quote is incorrect.

    These rules create the list of reptiles of concern -- the Indian or Burmese python, reticulated python, African rock python, Amethystine or scrub python, green anaconda and the Nile monitor lizard.
  • 01-05-2008, 03:29 PM
    Repti-Rob
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    That's scary! I live in Florida and have a class II and III permit for my snakes and other animals(needed one for my ring tailed lemur) but had a friend that intends to breed balls and has 10 of them right now. When he sent in his application to get a class III permit he was told that he did not need it for this species? this was Dec about two weeks ago so I think that Emilio is right and it is for larger snakes(just my opinion) but it still sucks as I care for larger snakes as well! :)
  • 01-05-2008, 03:49 PM
    Seneschal
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    I had originally heard that it was for only large snakes like burms and olive pythons and anacondas, but then this came out and said the opposite...still, I think the annual fee is a bit excessive. Yes, I agree that new owners should be required to prove they know how large the baby animal they are buying gets, and what their living and feeding requirements are...and that they should probably be microchipped...but the fee bothers me. You're already paying for a permit, and for the animal, and for the microchip, and for food...why the fee?
  • 01-06-2008, 01:35 PM
    Hotshot
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    well, I got 2 ball BP'S and I'm not paying anything, I want to breed and I live in FL so do I have to pay for just BP?
  • 01-06-2008, 01:59 PM
    bonheki
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    i read this you need to microchip any python and get a permit for a snake 10+ft now the microchip only cost 25$ but the permit is 100$ each snake over 10 ft
  • 01-07-2008, 09:23 AM
    neilgolli
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bonheki View Post
    i read this you need to microchip any python and get a permit for a snake 10+ft now the microchip only cost 25$ but the permit is 100$ each snake over 10 ft


    The fee is a once a year permit fee and is NOT for each snake. You get a blanket permit, you just need to let them know what you have. Also the size of the snake does not matter . You need to have a permit or get a permit before you buy a baby burm or any of the other species mentioned in my post above.
  • 01-07-2008, 09:25 AM
    neilgolli
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hotshot View Post
    well, I got 2 ball BP'S and I'm not paying anything, I want to breed and I live in FL so do I have to pay for just BP?

    You do not need a permit for ball pythons UNTIL you produce eggs and want to sell them. You will then need a class 111 permit which is $50 per year.
  • 01-07-2008, 09:35 AM
    andy6432668
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    Just another tax that the state has figured a way to get. "Governments job is to separate you from your money"
  • 01-07-2008, 10:00 AM
    dalvers63
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andy6432668 View Post
    Just another tax that the state has figured a way to get. "Governments job is to separate you from your money"

    I would say that this is more to get people to take responsibility for their pets that, when they don't want them anymore they just let them loose. Look at how burms are now reproducing in the Florida Everglades and you'll see the problem.

    Straight from the Fish and Wildlife website, the only species that require a permit/microchip are these:

    The new regulations for Reptiles of Concern (ROC) went into effect January 1, 2008. These ROC regulations list the ROCs and address licensing, micro chipping, record keeping and caging requirements.

    The ROCs that are regulated include the following and subspecies or hybrids thereof:

    (a) Indian or Burmese python (Python molurus)
    (b) Reticulated python (Python reticulatus)
    (c) African rock python (Python sebae)
    (d) Amethystine or Scrub python (Morelia amethystinus)
    (e) Green anacondas (Eunectes murinus)
    (f) Nile monitor (Varanus niloticus)
  • 01-07-2008, 10:53 AM
    dsirkle
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    I wonder how this law would affect out of state buyers attending a Florida expo.
  • 01-07-2008, 11:45 AM
    Hotshot
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    how would i ship a BP to like NY fedx?
  • 01-07-2008, 01:06 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    Looks like the irresponsible snake owners are ruining it for everyone else. Thank God BP's are not included.
  • 01-07-2008, 01:21 PM
    lillyorchid
    Re: New reptile laws in Florida
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hotshot View Post
    how would i ship a BP to like NY fedx?


    Become FedEx certified to ship snakes. Here is a sticky on it:
    How to become FedEx Certified to ship reptiles....
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