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  • 12-10-2007, 12:15 PM
    daaangconcepts
    Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Just a few moments ago Michael Vick was sentenced to 23 months for his role in a "dogfighting conspiracy" and the killing of 6-8 pitbulls that didn't perform well in the fights.

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  • 12-10-2007, 12:17 PM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    That's all? wow..
  • 12-10-2007, 12:20 PM
    Gooseman
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    that's sad... should be longer.
  • 12-10-2007, 12:23 PM
    jkobylka
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    His life is ruined... half of me wishes he had gotten a longer sentence - the other half wants to believe that he can redeem himself and become a advocate against the thuggery culture so many of these young superstars are choosing.

    I wonder how long he'll ACTUALLY serve?

    Justin
  • 12-10-2007, 12:25 PM
    Jonny2184
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    I'm gonna guess between 9-11 months he will serve. Only if he is a good boy in jail.
  • 12-10-2007, 12:30 PM
    daaangconcepts
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jkobylka View Post
    His life is ruined... half of me wishes he had gotten a longer sentence - the other half wants to believe that he can redeem himself and become a advocate against the thuggery culture so many of these young superstars are choosing.

    I wonder how long he'll ACTUALLY serve?

    Justin

    I actually agree with you. He could have received 5 years and ended up with one month shy of 2 years, with three years probation. The prosecutors had only recommended a sentence of between 12 and 18 months. So I'm actually happy to see he got more then what the prosecutors even suggested.
  • 12-10-2007, 01:27 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SatanicIntention View Post
    That's all? wow..

    Its sad he should have gotten longer :mad:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gooseman View Post
    that's sad... should be longer.

    I agree ;)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jkobylka View Post
    His life is ruined... half of me wishes he had gotten a longer sentence - the other half wants to believe that he can redeem himself and become a advocate against the thuggery culture so many of these young superstars are choosing.

    I wonder how long he'll ACTUALLY serve?

    Justin

    He did it so who cares if he ever corrects himself :mad:.I am not being rude towards yourself just pointing out something ;)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jonny2184 View Post
    He will be somebodies boy in jail.

    I agree and i hope Bubba fights him in the pits of thier cell :rofl::rofl:
  • 12-10-2007, 01:36 PM
    jdmls88
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Death Penalty??? lol he wasnt that good of a football player neways
  • 12-10-2007, 01:38 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jdmls88 View Post
    Death Penalty??? lol he wasnt that good of a football player neways

    Bingo we have a great punishment for the bum :rofl:.I agree on him not being a good football player :8:
  • 12-10-2007, 02:01 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    I think he should be getting more time too; but considering OJ got nothing for killing his wife I guess I should be happy.
  • 12-10-2007, 02:04 PM
    dsirkle
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jkobylka View Post
    His life is ruined... half of me wishes he had gotten a longer sentence - the other half wants to believe that he can redeem himself and become a advocate against the thuggery culture so many of these young superstars are choosing.

    I wonder how long he'll ACTUALLY serve?

    Justin

    His football career may or may not be ruined. But as to his life be ruined he will still be a young man when he gets out and he will probably leave jail with many times over the money that you will earn in a whole lifetime.
  • 12-10-2007, 02:06 PM
    Reediculous
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    I think he should be getting more time too; but considering OJ got nothing for killing his wife I guess I should be happy.


    Easy, innocent until proven guilty! OJ was found innocent! If it doesn't fit.......................write a book about it, OJ is an idiot
  • 12-10-2007, 04:11 PM
    Earl
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jonny2184 View Post
    I'm gonna guess between 9-11 months he will serve. Only if he is a good boy in jail.

    I think he has to serve at least 18 months and still has to face state charges.

    I'm not 100% sure on that though.
  • 12-10-2007, 04:58 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jkobylka View Post
    His life is ruined... half of me wishes he had gotten a longer sentence - the other half wants to believe that he can redeem himself and become a advocate against the thuggery culture so many of these young superstars are choosing.

    I agree Justin and I'll stay positive and hope he's seen how wrong what he was doing was and become a spokesperson against such activities.
  • 12-10-2007, 05:07 PM
    Patrick Long
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jkobylka View Post
    His life is ruined... half of me wishes he had gotten a longer sentence - the other half wants to believe that he can redeem himself and become a advocate against the thuggery culture so many of these young superstars are choosing.

    I wonder how long he'll ACTUALLY serve?

    Justin

    I agree with Justin, I guarantee you that is career that is now ruined, is much more of a punishment that jail would ever be. Think about it, he went from pro player, to dog abuser in 1 day.
  • 12-10-2007, 06:41 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    The only thing I am thinking that he's sorry of, is that he got caught. I hope/wish that this is not so, though.
  • 12-10-2007, 06:59 PM
    MeMe
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    He is a moron and deserves every minute he got and MORE.

    He never shows any remourse for what he did...only regret...that he got caught!

    I say punish that fras! :mad:


    He better hope the squirrel master is there to protect his arse!

    :rofl:
  • 12-11-2007, 05:31 PM
    N4S
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    ESPN said that if he behaves then 3 months maximum can be knocked off his sentence.
  • 12-11-2007, 07:36 PM
    Sputnik
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    I would of preferred to see him lose a good chunk of his money instead of being jailed.... he fills a spot that could be filled by people far worse then him.

    Be banned from endorsing anything, not be paid for interviews, no donations etc and be forced to pay a huge amount to charaties... like animal shelters or similar worthwhile programs.
  • 12-11-2007, 07:54 PM
    jkobylka
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sputnik View Post
    I would of preferred to see him lose a good chunk of his money instead of being jailed.... he fills a spot that could be filled by people far worse then him.

    Be banned from endorsing anything, not be paid for interviews, no donations etc and be forced to pay a huge amount to charaties... like animal shelters or similar worthwhile programs.

    He think he nearly bankrupt and the falcons are seeking nearly 20 million back from him that he was already paid. (they argue that he was knowingly violating his contract when he signed it...)

    I know he's trying to sell his house no more than 30 minutes from here (4.5 million) Vick has agreed to pay nearly 1 million for the care of the dogs that were still alive on his property when it was raided.

    If he returns to the NFL someday he will get paid for that but I doubt an endorser would touch him with a 10 ft pole at least in the near future.

    so he's getting both his money taken and the prison sentence. Seems fair.
  • 12-11-2007, 08:10 PM
    Sputnik
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jkobylka View Post
    He think he nearly bankrupt and the falcons are seeking nearly 20 million back from him that he was already paid. (they argue that he was knowingly violating his contract when he signed it...)

    I know he's trying to sell his house no more than 30 minutes from here (4.5 million) Vick has agreed to pay nearly 1 million for the care of the dogs that were still alive on his property when it was raided.

    If he returns to the NFL someday he will get paid for that but I doubt an endorser would touch him with a 10 ft pole at least in the near future.

    so he's getting both his money taken and the prison sentence. Seems fair.

    Sounds good to me then, thanks for the info!
  • 12-11-2007, 08:11 PM
    DSGB
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Free Mike Vick
  • 12-11-2007, 08:31 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Biker #4: I say we scalp him!
    Biker Gang: Yeah!
    Biker #4: Then we tattoo him!
    Biker Gang: Yeah!
    Biker #4: Then we hang him!
    Biker Gang: Yeah!
    Biker #4: And then we kill him!
    Biker Gang: Yeah!
    Pee-wee Herman: I say we free Mike Vick

    [http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Pee-wee's_Big_Adventure]
  • 12-11-2007, 09:02 PM
    N4S
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    He will definitely get signed when he is out by a team.

    I would definitely like to have him on the Eagles.

    Not at QB but another position.
  • 12-11-2007, 10:24 PM
    Sputnik
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N4S View Post
    He will definitely get signed when he is out by a team.

    I would definitely like to have him on the Eagles.

    Not at QB but another position.

    He is very elusive, I don't buy into the "he isn't a good football player" at all. He has great footwork and runs the ball extremely well.
  • 12-12-2007, 01:49 AM
    joepythons
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DSGB View Post
    Free Mike Vick

    You can not be serious :confused::confused:.I am getting sick and tired of these scumbags doing anything they want but only get a slap on the wrist :mad:.I hope someone beats him to death like he did those dogs!!!
  • 12-12-2007, 01:50 AM
    joepythons
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N4S View Post
    He will definitely get signed when he is out by a team.

    I would definitely like to have him on the Eagles.

    Not at QB but another position.

    Maybe the water BOY :rofl::rofl:
  • 12-12-2007, 05:07 PM
    DSGB
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    hell yeah free mike vick. people have done alot worse and gotten away with it.. yeah what he did was wrong but if OJ can get away with murdering 2 human beings why should vick get such a bad rap for a couple of his dogs (i find human life more important than a couple of pitbulls). there was more evidence to put OJ away then there was for vick.

    You give a kid from the ghetto 122 million dollars of course he is gonna get in trouble. At least he didnt hurt anybody of kill anyone.....
  • 12-12-2007, 05:40 PM
    MeMe
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DSGB View Post
    hell yeah free mike vick. people have done alot worse and gotten away with it.. yeah what he did was wrong but if OJ can get away with murdering 2 human beings why should vick get such a bad rap for a couple of his dogs (i find human life more important than a couple of pitbulls). there was more evidence to put OJ away then there was for vick.

    You give a kid from the ghetto 122 million dollars of course he is gonna get in trouble. At least he didnt hurt anybody of kill anyone.....



    What does that mean? That since they didn't find...OJ guilty we should just let people get away with anything?

    I mean..aside from killing the dogs they were fighting MANY others.

    I don't see the logic behind your statement. :confused:

    I have a pit and I think it is a damn shame that people already feel the way they do about them but since they are just dogs...their disposable?

    They are still...a living creature and not one deserves to be treated any less than the other.
  • 12-12-2007, 06:19 PM
    dsirkle
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    In the hood the Michael Vick situation is commonly viewed as the railroading of an innocent man.The argument is that dog fighting as a sport is the equivalent of deer hunting for other segments of society.The idea of feeling compassion for animals is seen as madness (because after all they are just animals)and it is believed that certain people just couldnt stand to see Mr Vick doing so well for himself and felt compelled to bring him down. I am in no way supporting this position but I am attempting to explain the way that Mr Vicks supporters see the situation.
  • 12-12-2007, 06:23 PM
    PythonWallace
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dsirkle View Post
    In the hood the Michael Vick situation is commonly viewed as the railroading of an innocent man.The argument is that dog fighting as a sport is the equivalent of deer hunting for other segments of society.The idea of feeling compassion for animals is seen as madness (because after all they are just animals)and it is believed that certain people just couldnt stand to see Mr Vick doing so well for himself and felt compelled to bring him down. I am in no way supporting this position but I am attempting to explain the way that Mr Vicks supporters see the situation.

    F' Them. Animal fighting is cruel and ILLEGAL. Do they eat the dogs after they are killed, or quickly put the injured ones out of their misery, then eat them? I hope not.
  • 12-12-2007, 06:25 PM
    djansen
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    I laugh at some peoples posts about mike vick should die and hope he gets to be someones b*tch in prison. even that he was not a good football player. Even if you hate him you have to agree that he was a rare tallent so dont even bring that up. The reason everyone hates him so much is because they were dogs and everyone loves dogs (accept me:D) if he was fighting and killing any other animal no one would give a crap. The thing that i dont get and am glad he got caught for and should go to jail for is lying multiple times under oath. about the dogs and marryjane, what an idiot.
  • 12-12-2007, 06:29 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    LOL. Comparing dogfighting, to deer hunting? comparing senseless, cruel violence with much suffering (done the right way in dogfighting..) To the quick kill, economical food gain by the hunter (done again, the right way, in hunting.) Ridiculous.
    I am so glad that this criminal is serving some time for doing what is not only legally wrong, but twisted and cruel too. I am by no means a bland conservative who blindly supports laws. There are many things out there that are considered to be illegal that I have no problems with when they are regulated. But fighting two animals for human sadism and gain? No flippin' way.
  • 12-12-2007, 06:30 PM
    MeMe
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dsirkle View Post
    In the hood the Michael Vick situation is commonly viewed as the railroading of an innocent man.The argument is that dog fighting as a sport is the equivalent of deer hunting for other segments of society.The idea of feeling compassion for animals is seen as madness (because after all they are just animals)and it is believed that certain people just couldnt stand to see Mr Vick doing so well for himself and felt compelled to bring him down. I am in no way supporting this position but I am attempting to explain the way that Mr Vicks supporters see the situation.


    oh...yea...keep a man down. whatever...that has nothing to do with it. He commited a crime and should be punished for it.

    I know what you are trying to say but that excuse is used too often...WAY.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PythonWallace View Post
    Do they eat the dogs after they are killed, or quickly put the injured ones out of their misery, then eat them?

    No they don't.
  • 12-12-2007, 06:33 PM
    MeMe
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djansen View Post
    if he was fighting and killing any other animal no one would give a crap.


    That is absolutely NOT true.

    It is wrong to fight and kill any animal...any!
  • 12-12-2007, 06:34 PM
    djansen
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dsirkle View Post
    In the hood the Michael Vick situation is commonly viewed as the railroading of an innocent man.The argument is that dog fighting as a sport is the equivalent of deer hunting for other segments of society.The idea of feeling compassion for animals is seen as madness (because after all they are just animals)and it is believed that certain people just couldnt stand to see Mr Vick doing so well for himself and felt compelled to bring him down. I am in no way supporting this position but I am attempting to explain the way that Mr Vicks supporters see the situation.

    well than the "hood" needs to spend less time fighting animals and come up with some better arguments. Those are the weakest attemps i have ever seen. deer hunting? there just animals? and of course we cant stand to see a boy from the hood do well (WEAK!) keep trying lol:D
  • 12-12-2007, 06:36 PM
    djansen
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffnme View Post
    That is absolutely NOT true.

    It is wrong to fight and kill any animal...any!

    I never said it was not, I said if it was any other animal MOST PEOPLE aside from animal lovers would not care.

    If I went to someone who did not care for animals they would still think that killing a dog for sport is wrong. now that some person, killing snakes for fun (roundups) or even fighting roosters. are they really going to care?
  • 12-12-2007, 06:40 PM
    MeMe
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djansen View Post
    The reason everyone hates him so much is because they were dogs and everyone loves dogs (accept me:D) if he was fighting and killing any other animal no one would give a crap.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djansen View Post
    I never said it was not, I said if it was any other animal MOST PEOPLE aside from animal lovers would not care.



    am i missing something here cause I can clearly read that you said... and I quote again...

    "if he was fighting and killing any other animal no one would give a crap"
  • 12-12-2007, 06:41 PM
    MeMe
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djansen View Post
    now that some person, killing snakes for fun (roundups) or even fighting roosters. are they really going to care?

    yes...i think more people than you believe would care.


    ;)
  • 12-12-2007, 06:44 PM
    djansen
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffnme View Post
    am i missing something here cause I can clearly read that you said... and I quote again...

    "if he was fighting and killing any other animal no one would give a crap"

    figurativly speaking, i did not mean no person at all. next time i will be more clear.

    If he was fighting and killing any other animal only a small majority of animal lovers like people on this site would give a crap, majority of the world would not care. how is that?
    :rolleyes:
  • 12-12-2007, 06:45 PM
    djansen
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffnme View Post
    yes...i think more people than you believe would care.


    ;)

    hmmm, i dont. :snake:
  • 12-12-2007, 06:49 PM
    MeMe
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djansen View Post
    figurativly speaking, i did not mean no person at all. next time i will be more clear.

    If he was fighting and killing any other animal only a small majority of animal lovers like people on this site would give a crap, majority of the world would not care. how is that?
    :rolleyes:

    oh. ok...

    :rolleyes:

    how's that?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djansen View Post
    hmmm, i dont. :snake:


    whatever...

    syogdd.
  • 12-12-2007, 07:10 PM
    djansen
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffnme View Post
    oh. ok...

    :syogdd.

    :confused:
  • 12-12-2007, 07:11 PM
    dsirkle
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    syogdd. I think that I got what you were just sayin' and junk there.;)
  • 12-12-2007, 07:23 PM
    MeMe
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dsirkle View Post
    syogdd. I think that I got what you were just sayin' and junk there.;)



    i doubt it.

    just sayin'

    ;)
  • 12-12-2007, 07:32 PM
    dsirkle
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Oh I bet I do! But I'm not going to prove it.
  • 12-12-2007, 07:34 PM
    dsirkle
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Maybe I will try. Does this seem to be a logical sequence? lyogdp
  • 12-12-2007, 07:37 PM
    MeMe
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dsirkle View Post
    Maybe I will try. Does this seem to be a logical sequence? lyogdp


    :confused:


    uhmmm...no.
  • 12-12-2007, 07:38 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    If people can't see the dif. between humanely killing an animal for food, and fighting animals for no good reason and with much animal suffering.. I don't want to talk to that person.
  • 12-12-2007, 08:20 PM
    dsirkle
    Re: Michael Vick gets 23 months
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffnme View Post
    :confused:


    uhmmm...no.

    Well then your code is too tough for me to crack.
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